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It's absolutely not too late to talk about this stuff. We had covid essentially beat back in May to the point the CDC lifted masking guidance. Now hospitals are a dumpster fire again. Things change, new variants emerge, and public health guidance/medical best practices should change accordingly. What was a good idea in May might not be a good idea now. If you think we can just let the delta variant run its course and that'll be the last we have to deal with covid, I would love some of what you're smoking.

Well if you ask the White House all those Americans still there just must not have "wanted to leave." They're just having a nice summer sabbatical hiding in the closet to avoid the stonings and beheadings.

I can answer this for you based on how ICU doctors in the country behave on every Friday night shift.. you triage patients based on severity and allocate resources to the ones in the most critical condition. If two patients are in the same exact condition, and you can only take care of one, it probably comes down to chance or whoever got there first. Any medical care policy regarding covid vax status or comorbidities or how you got into that situation would inevitably be met with massive legal challenges as it would be a huge violation of the Hippocratic oath.

Two questions: -How do you think the vaccine was sold? By whom? Because some of us have understood for quite a while this is much more similar to a yearly flu vaccine situation than a polio vaccine one-and-done situation. -How would a vaccinated person's immune system encourage mutations any more than the immune system of a person with natural immunity from having had the virus, and then re-encountering it?

Moot, as in "having little or no practical relevance." We know that the vaccine dramatically reduces the chance of hospitalization. Therefore a more vaccinated population will have fewer hospitalizations per capita, resulting in a less strained health care system. If the hospitals are only half full, turns out you don't have to worry about who to give the last ventilator to. Instead, we live in the stupidest possible timeline where these hypotheticals can and have actually happened. We have the privilege of living in a timeline where people are more interested in fish tank cleaner and horse de-wormer they heard about on a podcast than a vaccine endorsed by virtually every epidemiologist in the western world. **caveat** love JRE. Just not a great place for reliable medical guidance.

If only there was a safe, effective, and fully approved vaccination that radically reduces your chances of hospitalization from covid, rendering these hypotheticals completely moot. Wouldn't that be nice

Saw some reporting that we blew up some ammunition and the explosion was heard across Kabul, hopefully that's all it was

I think when unvaxxed people start re-catching it, that will massively change the way people think about covid. Right now there's a chicken pox-esque "had it once so I'm good" mentality which is completely incorrect. Similarly I think we are about to see an uptick in breakthrough cases among the vaccinated as we near the 6 month point from the first shots and that immunity tapers off over time.

I don't think it's quite that simple though. Having covid definitely gives you some immunity in the short term just like the vaccine. But this pandemic has been going for a year and a half and there are people who caught covid early whose T cell immunity is definitely tapering off. Having covid is once is not a lifetime golden ticket to never having to worry about this again. And neither is the vaccine. That isn't how any of this works. Immunity tapers off over time and new variants emerge which is why you can catch seasonal flu every year if you aren't careful. The other problem is that people grossly over self-report having covid. I can't tell you how many people I've talked to who say something like "yeah I had the sniffles last March and my bunghole felt weird, I probably had it already". Relying on self reported covid is not a good way for a company to run their employee health program. So at a basic level, yes you are right. Getting covid and getting the vaccine accomplish the same thing as far as immunity. But for both, we don't know exactly how long that immunity lasts or how durable it is for future variants and relying on someone to self report their immunity is about as unreliable as it gets. Companies are always going to air on the side of caution and when you have a safe, fully approved vaccine, I don't think requiring that is some dystopian overreach. Do airlines require other vaccines? Yearly flu shots?

Nothing like a person with 2 visible comorbidities (obese and elderly) telling us she isn't getting the shot so she won't become magnetized 🤦🏻‍♂️ I do hate these "people on the street" videos though. The daily show also loves to do them and it's such a cheap, intellectually dishonest way of lumping all your opponents' arguments into the stupidest bin possible. There are intelligent people who have doubts about the vaccine. They aren't all raving trumper hillbillys on your grandma's Facebook page as this video would have you believe. I still think their risk analysis is way off the mark, but the media needs to figure out that personally attacking vaccine hesitant people is not the way you create converts.

Yes you are reading it entirely wrong. It is now fully approved for people 16 and older, and still under emergency use authorization for ages 12-15. There are multiple other cases for which the emergency use authorization still applies like administering a third dose for immunocompromised people. The emergency use auth doesn't magically disappear entirely because there are still untested age and vulnerability demographics. But I'm sure you understand the FDA legalese better than.. the FDA, whose front page of their website literally says it was fully approved, today. They also go on to say: The FDA’s approval of this vaccine is a milestone as we continue to battle the COVID-19 pandemic. While this and other vaccines have met the FDA’s rigorous, scientific standards for emergency use authorization, as the first FDA-approved COVID-19 vaccine, the public can be very confident that this vaccine meets the high standards for safety, effectiveness, and manufacturing quality the FDA requires of an approved product" But of course we already know that this isn't good enough for you. Because nothing will ever be. Yesterday it was "I'm waiting on full FDA approval" and tomorrow it'll be "Well the FDA is probably funded by george soros so who can trust them."

I'd bring your plane for one simple reason: you're probably going to sit casual status before you start for a while and have absolutely nothing to do. Once you start UPT, that's a different story. If you asked me then, GA flying would have been the last thing would have wanted to do on weekends during UPT. Realistically you're going to be flying or simming demanding graded events every workday and studying/chairflying for at least part of every weekend. It gets tiring. And unless you are an absolute addict, you're probably going to want at least a day or two off from flying per week. Still, casual status alone is good enough reason to bring your plane and keep your skills sharp. And you might sit casual after UPT as well waiting on SERE and follow on training dates. Hell, you might even FAIP and then you'll be really glad you brought your GA plane, because then you'll be able to escape the shithole towns they decided to put UPT bases in.

Don't waste your time, this dude has proved time and time again that appeals to basic facts, statistics, and reason simply don't work on him. The vaccine is a global conspiracy pushed by a cabal of upper crust liberals, and he and newsmax bimbo Emerald Robinson are the only ones who know the truth. After trump is reinstated as president from the election that was STOLEN from him, all will be revealed.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine FDA announced full approval for pfizer today.

Now that the vaccine is fully approved by the FDA, one wonders why it is so different in your mind than the flu shot or the litany of other vaccines the military mandates. Or if you think mandating any vaccine is bad, one wonders why you volunteered to work for the federal government, surrendering much of your medical care autonomy. oh that's right.. because it's all political theater

How exactly? The media are still blowing things out of proportion, the don't trust the gubment people are getting sick in droves, and states are largely being left alone to make the rules their constituents want. Is it surprising to literally anyone that California and New York are the first places talking about vaccine passports? It's almost like that's exactly the type of onerous government the majority of people in those states want. If dreadlocks California man hates nanny state policies so much, perhaps he should vote with his feet and move to one of the many states that is handling this reasonably. And after that maybe he should reflect on why he ever lived in California in the first place.

The aircrew will be fine. I hope they will also be fine mentally and remember that they got it done in the craziest conditions possible. They were in an absolutely impossible situation and got the jet home safe along with way more rescued people than anyone could have ever reasonably expected. Pretty sure it isn't aircrews job to establish a security perimeter around the airplane during a literal apocalyptic fall of a country. And at the end of it all they will have the craziest airline interview answer for "tell me about a time when you.."

Sounds like he needs to wear a n-95 or a full blown respirator then.. there's plenty of data supporting the effectiveness of those masks. I wouldn't want him to have to take part in a lie about cloth masks and contradict his "sincerely held religious beliefs" by wearing a nominally effective mask type. alternatively.. again.. he's a grandstanding asshole

I wonder if his Christianity prevents him from going into MOPP4 as well. Now that I can get on board with

It's funny how much you can get from reading between the lines of a single memo. Reminds me of some characters I've met at various points in my career. I would bet this dude is a perpetual problem in the squadron and his leadership is very happy he handed them a way to oust him on a velvet pillow by choosing to die on the stupidest hill possible.

Because nowhere in his overly dramatic and verbose memo does he actually cite any part of the Bible from which he is getting these "sincerely held beliefs." Literally the entire thing is: "I'm a Christian, I don't want to wear a mask, that is my sincerely held religious belief." And the document listing how chaplains concurred with him... is the memo he wrote... And nowhere in this memo does he ever address why the mask he has to wear every day to keep him safe in the airplane, is so different in the eyes of god than a cloth face mask. so like I said, grandstanding asshole

Weird that his strongly held religious beliefs allow for wearing an oxygen mask while flying but not for a mask on the ground. Id love to see which bible passages he's using as guidance. Probably from the part of Leviticus that addresses aviation and ground duties. alternatively.. politics, not Christianity, is his religion and he's being a grandstanding asshole.

I agree with you, everything I've seen points toward the vaccine reducing both transmission and symptom severity. I was just summarizing this guy's argument. And if we accept his premise that the vaccine is only useful at preventing one of the two, would it not still not be a very good idea to get it. After all, if everyone on earth has gets covid but we all get mild to no symptoms, there isn't much to be worried about.

That's a really good video. So correct me if I'm wrong but he's basically saying vaccines don't stop spread, they just reduce symptoms. Hence that outbreak in the summer in Massachusetts among vaccinated people. I'd be interested in more context for this board meeting but it sounds like his point is that mandating vaccines won't reduce case numbers and if that's your goal you are very mistaken. So my follow up question is: does that make the vaccine not worth getting? Because we have a lot of data showing vaccinated people have much less severe reactions in the event they do have a breakthrough case. If it spreads the same but the symptoms are way reduced, isn't that still a win? caveat: not arguing for mandates at all. I'm just interested in the safety and effectiveness of the vaccine.

You can say whatever you want. But don't get upset when you use ridiculous, over dramatic labels for things and then other people take those labels to their logical conclusions. While we're at it, why not call it an American bioweapon? We helped fund the research after all..