HelpWithAFOQT

It helps some what. Both Heavy units that I got recent TBNT letters from were squadrons in remote cold weather states, that didn't post their hirings on Bogidope (they were done only through their email lists). Both Squadrons kept inviting back only to not get an interview. They both gave me the pilot score is less than 90 as feedback. One of the Captains from the squadron called me and told me the reasoning was that people they liked and hired in the past with pilot scores less than 90 ended up washing out of UPT, so that's why they said it was their requirement. I've been trying other units. What I am running into a lot now, is a lot of units are doing away with individual rushing and instead just having one big rush right before Apps are due. That makes this a lot harder. Other units have straight up told me my age though within Air Force regulations is too old for them. Then of course, I've had a ton of units I'm still trying just can't get anyone to answer the phone or respond to an email. Still trying though.

I'll have to see if I can find the PDF of the old PCSM scores. I remember it was in the 90s with 199+ hours. With the new grading of the PCSM scores, it's 85 at 60+.

By the sounds of of, I think we might have rushed some of the save heavy units. I think I meet some of those same people like the MIT kid and a few others you mentioned.

Awesome to hear OP. It does give me hope. I'm in the same boat as you were. 31 and a Pilot score of 83. I have visited a few units (some more than once) only to get TBNT letters and told my pilot score is the reason. I've been attempting networking the civilian way, getting a contact in the squadron (usually one of the pilots) asking if I can come and visit. Asking if I can return and visit again. Usually they say yes, I get told everyone likes having me around and then don't get interviews. But I'm going to keep trying. Congrats on the interview!

Hey everyone. I'm still trying to chase this dream. I've been rushing Heavy Units across the country. A lot of heavy units told me I am a great guy and that they like me, but my AFOQT scores are preventing me from getting an interview. My original AFOQT scores are: Pilot: 70 Nav: 37 Amb: 43 Acad: 48 Verb: 70 Quant: 32 PCSM: 41 My retake are: Pilot: 83 CSO: 55 AMB: 63 Acad: 58 Verb: 72 Quant: 45 PCSM: 70 (with 32 flight hours) GPA: 3.80 with Master of Science Age: 31 (another thing that hurts) Work in IT, Junior Admin Hobbies: Ice Hockey, Snowboarding, Surfing, Baseball, guitar and motorsports. I know every section has gone up. But every heavy unit I have rushed so far now has a 90 pilot score cut off. That's the feedback I keep getting from the units them selves, that they liked me but everyone they interviewed has a 90 Pilot score. I'm trying to finish my PPL. It's just difficult to afford. I'm stunned at all of these 21-24 year old kids that not only have their PPLs but their CPLs. I'm struggling to afford it, working two jobs! I don't want to give up but it's hard spending time and money rushing, to not even get interviews. I've shotgunned out a few apps too but TBNT from them as well. I'm not sure what else to do other than try to finish my PPL and I guess keep rushing and applying. I know it's been asked before but is there a better way to stand out during rushing (other than be yourself and don't be a jerk)?

I kind of invited myself. They mentioned they had a team and I asked if I could come and play. They said sure. They seemed to like that I played though. We chilled and had beer afterwards in the locker room. I guess I just have to keep being persistent.

I know there are old threads on the subject and I've read them. Most don't go into too much detail and simply say "Don't be an idiot" "don't be an @ss" "have a firm handshake." I'm an older applicant and I know time is not on my side. There are a few units I have rushed, non have had interviews yet but two have told me to turn in an app to keep it on file. One of the units, I have visited them three times. All three times, I just walk all around the squadron and try to make myself known by everyone. I shake hands, I talk to pilots and non-pilots alike, I try to bond over the military, aviation and even non-flying things like music, cars or literature. This unit, I even got to play hockey once with the unit hockey team (which was awesome)! Is there any other little things I should do or overlooked things to show that I really want to be apart of the unit?

I made a thread a while ago about advice for what to do during a unit visit. Sadly that visit ended up being cancelled due to Delta Variant. I've tried calling the unit back since but no luck. I've been calling several heavy units all across the country, mostly focused on areas I want to live. But it seems that every single one does not allow visits. Either due to delta variant or they say they get too many applicants/visit request they can't have 100+ people come and visit. Or the more common one, the scheduler gives me the number for an officer and their phone always goes straight to voicemail with the voicemail box being full. Has anyone else had any luck?

Haha I do have a very bad habit of overanalyzing everything. I just need to relax. Thanks.

YES! I meant to ask in my OP about talking about things besides the military or flying. Aside from just the mission, I also love the location the unit is based in. I also wanted to ask about local sports teams, sports fandoms and hobbies. I play baseball and hockey. I'm also a huge car guy and I'm learning the guitar. Should I bring these topics up too? I know a lot of it, is just reading the room. But if we are in the squadron bar or something, and it's quiet would it be cool to bring up non-flying topics then? I get your last point, the detachment theory. When you act like you don't care, you tend to be more relaxed.

So I will likely have an individual visit with a heavy unit next month. Right now they don't have any upcoming boards but are planning on one for likely summer 2022. As mentioned in my other thread, I have poor AFOQT scores and and TBAS score. I will be retaking before soon. Should I bring up this information at the visit? Or if they ask if casually like say "Hey have you taken the AFOQT and TBAS yet?" and I answer "yes" and they ask "how did you do?" Should I just be honest and let them know I am planning on retaking both to improve? Would this be a good sign that I am determined to correct my mistakes? Also I see on older threads from circa 2004-2008 on here, that people say visit often. How do you visit often? After the visit should I send a thank you email and ask to visit again? Should I ask for feedback from my visit? Sorry if this sounds weird but all of the other visit threads, I found were from the mid 2000s and were very vague with answers just like "be a bro." "make sure to visit often" etc. This is my first visit, so I'm kind of in the dark of what to expect.

I seen a few people mentioned they used a tutor of Wyzant or another website and got great scores on the AFOQT. I want to use a tutor for my retake. Could someone post me the link of a tutor that they used?

I know it's possible to get picked up, I've seen post from guys talking about how they got picked up with worse scores but most of them did in the 2000s before the big rush/covid started. Now even heavy units are getting 200+ apps and many I've tried rushing say they don't allow individual visits and they usually only select the 50 or so top apps to visit and narrow down the interviews from there. So it's more competitive. I'm only semi interested in CSO. If I get too old and can't get picked up as a pilot, I'll try for it. I would like to do a retake of the AFOQT first.I've been baffled for months on what to do. I am eligable for a retake in a few weeks. But I want to wait until I am sure I am going to ace it this time. As for the day of the test, I felt fine. I got plenty of sleep, at a light breakfast, arrived extra early, I didn't cram at all. It looked like the Baron's book and the questions seemed similar. GPA is 3.52 for undergrad, Master's is about 3.8 or so. PCSM is 70 (I wonder how much my pilot score affects it). I know I missed 4 questions on the UAV portion of the TBAS. I think my reaction time was a little slow too. So for now it's figuring out what to do.

That's what I can't figure out. I did my research and I did everything that everyone told me to do. Yet, I still didn't do well. It honestly frustrates me.

I do. PCSM score is 70. I used the simulator I'm wondering if the pilot score hurts it. I know I missed 4 on the UAV section.