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If you guys go to Incirlik try Pops Leather down in the alley for a headset comfort kit or order them online. https://www.popsleather.com/new_catalog.php3?tp=38&cksess=0617-05e326ecf5041a41b8138b8b28f0df16-13724013674

Back in WW2 acft recognition was taught to nearly everybody, it meant life or death to aircrew coming into a allied airbase on a IFE without radio's to indentify themselves to allied AAA gunners that they were friendly. The most recent incident was the Blackhawk shootdown in northern Iraq by F-15's . The 707/135 ? is that they were both developed from the 367-80 which is now display in Uvar Hazy museum at Dulles IAP. The official USAF designation on a 707 is the C-137B for a 707-153B or C-137C for a 707-300 which E3,E6 and E8's are based on. The 707 wings on the -300 are bigger than the 135's and 137B's wing which the dimensions are indentical. The 367-80 presently has the 707-300 wing installed. There was a proposal by Boeing before the KC-135R to retrofit -135's with the -300 wing. That would have given the -135 20K more gas in the wings. Fuselage dimensions, you can slide a 135 fuselage inside a empty tube 707 fuselage. The fuel, hydraulic,electrical, and landing gear systems on a 707 are different and not compatable with a C-135.

All your arguements about the Oclubs are the same on the enlisted side, the NCO clubs stateside were a place you can have a beer and tell your boss your a A$$&*le while you are buying a round during all girl swimsuit review . Being forced to use clubs for ALS graduations, Pin Ons Etc with crappy service bad food and over priced beer are the norm. Got so bad if you wanted a Senior rated endorser on your EPR you had to be a club member. What made it change to crap. MADD (Mothers against drunk driving)and then the infamous Navy Tailhook party in Vegas just after Desert Storm. With so many drunk driving incidents in the civilian world and most if not all states going to a 21 age limit to drink it cut drastically into the bottom line and attitude at clubs. 18 year old E's no longer allowed to drink and if caught with a beer in their fridge in the dorm was a automatic Art 15 which put all partying off base. Senior E's getting busted walking out the club after 2 beers by a pissed off 18 year old cop having their careers destroyed. Getting the stink eye when at a function at the club you pop the cap on your second bottle of beer. The clubs used to be a place you possibly could get laid with a large portion of the civilian female population allowed to frequent the club, if any of the KC-135A grey beards remember the Galaxy at Mildenhall prior to 9/11. I am the GodFather of alot of kids because of that place. Going back to when I was Tech school at Sheppard 1980, the Airmans club there was one of the biggest buyers of beer in the state of Texas. I guess now it is as exciting as 9pm in Toledo Ohio.

Glad to here no fatalities, curious to here if it is another shaft problem.

Had a knucklehead working with me at Transient Alert who couldn't tell the differance between a T-6 and A-6, he lasted about a week. He spent all his time in the tool crib before he came to us. I always get a kick when shoes think 135's and 707's are the same.

Tsgt Bart Holmes was a good friend and a good FE RIP

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/8001351/SkyRider-new-saddle-seat-allows-airlines-to-cram-more-passengers.html I guess we can look forward to these seats on our next freedom bird World Air charter MD-11 cattle car. As you can tell I am not a fan of commercial air travel anymore if I ever was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jW2r_xUswk Finally a good video that is not gay coming from USAF members.

That new Navy utility uniform is ideal for acft mx, it will hide any oil stain. Plus compared to their old work uniform they don't look like Federal inmates on work release anymore. Plus it hides a fat Navy chicks ass better. When deployed to a FOB they wear DCU's or whatever the USMC wears if attached to them. Can any old timers here explain to me why at a Red Flag in August when we still wore DCU's and BDU's could not wear our DCU's at Nellis on the flightline in 120 degree heat ?

Wouldn't that be a airfield management problem?

Link to pics, not pretty https://www.avweb.com/newspics/galleries/airventure2010/jack-roush-crash/large/02.jpg https://www.avweb.com/newspics/galleries/airventure2010/jack-roush-crash/large/01.jpg

My compliments to the CAF egress troops.

Here is a link of some good pic's. It appears that the right engine was not putting out anything if you look at the exhaust nozzles. I'm just a mx dude so I am assuming that f-18's don't fly well with just one engine. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/prairies/cf-18-fighter-jet-crashes-in-alberta/article1649943/#photos

I was given the book a few years back as a xmas present, I was at EGUN during Eldorado Canyon launching out KC-135Q's chasing Habu for battle damage assessment. IT was a night that I will never forget, very rarely did they launch both SR-71's and all the supporting KC-135Q's plus the two KC-135Q's that were from Plattsburgh which usally flew with dirty tanks and only got cleaned up to carry JP-7 only when a Beale Q model broke hard. The other days at EGUN I never got tired of watching the SR-71 takeoff plus I loved the sound of the start carts with their Buick 454's going to max rpm to turn the J-58's so they can light them of with the TEB triethylborane tabs to get the JP-7 fuel to burn.

I was talking to a T-38 mx guy who used to work for Cessna in Witchita who was on their JPATS bid. The Cessna 526 Citation jet was superior in all ways to the the T-6 which the Navy insisted on the side opening canopy and a turboprop. As mx lay person I don't understand a turbo prop trainer for USAF UPT studs which we only fly C-12's and C-130's in numbers plus not counting what SOCOM has in their inventory. The C526 looks like it would have been a great attack acft with that straight wing, lots of hard points. My friend told me after the competition the USAF told Cessna to destroy the acft. He called the T-6 the Sen Bob Dole gift to Beechcraft Kansas. I don't see the T-6 being around as long as the Tweet just because this acft wasn't built to take the abuse of the T-37. Here is a link about the C526. https://cessnawarbirds.com/2009/08/26/cessna-jpats-citationjet/

At least you were able to get your mx troops some recognition,most heavy mx sq I have known guys that have not one medal for anything for a whole 20 year career.

The most dangerous thing you will do is drive from Eskan to USMTM, the Saudi's driving habits are definately offensive and also insane, think driving NASCAR. Did Eskan prior to the big move to Prince Sultan AB after the Khobar Towers bombing. Yes it gets God Awful hot. Plus don't drink the water out of the taps.

For all you pilots that got banked and became mx officers, how did you endure your time in mx before going back to requal? Was it eye opening to see the other side of the debrief table? Did it help as you progressed during your career? Just curious from a Crew Chief that had a few banked pilots in my section during the early 90's. The early 90's was not very fun after Desert Storm from the mx side, VSI/SSB early retirements gutted alot of experiance on the active duty side which made for more long days if you were the only 7 level.

Here is a link of USAAF operations on IWO Jima after the Marines paid for it with blood and became a fighter base for P-51's and divert for B-29's enjoy. https://picasaweb.google.com/7thfighter/IwoJima?authkey=Gv1sRgCIW06db_6oth&feat=email#slideshow/5299163150448181842

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_L._Howard I wonder if this guy complained about reflective belts or tucked in t shirts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Hartmann Here is another German bad ass, he had over 300 kills flying a ME-109.

You should have seen RAF Mildenhall when Operation Eldorado Canyon kicked off along with 20 KC-135A's all taking off heavy with water injection.

Being a prior flying Crew Chief on EC/KC-135's, E-3's and VC-137's I prefer flying without FE's. I am not begrudging the FE community but the AF diluted the FE DNA too much. With new FE's being taken out of every AFSC now without a mx background I have gotten into many severe discussions with FE's over what is a write up and what is not. During mx debriefs I could always tell the difference between a fuel panel management and checklist reader specialist and a real FE who knew what they were talking about. Back in the 80's new FE's had to be prior Crew Chiefs, jet mech or hydro troops which those 3 afsc's were almost impossible to Xtrain out of, I know I tried to be a FE 3 x's, needs of the USAF come first. Having a prior cop or services guy now a FE has alot of drawbacks starting out they can't tell the difference between what is good and no good , they just know what their checklist says. I always enjoyed having a non prior mx FE tell me how to do a repair, I always responded with "can I tell you how to fly".

I thought this a good place to post a link, this is what it is all about with our CSAR guys doing the mission despite shoeclerkness that goes on. These were taken by Michael Yon a independent journalist prior USA special forces. https://www.michaelyon-online.com/pedros.htm