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I have been hearing but not confirmed only about 50ish crewman got off her but that leaves about 450 that will go down with her.

My family emigrated to the US in 1868 to Wisconsin, they stayed in touch with the family still living in Pomerania, which in 1868 was in Prussia since there was no Germany until after they beat the French in the Franco Prussian war. They lost touch in 1939, after 45 my aunt was stationed in Berlin as an interpreter, her Wisconsin German was a challenge talking to Wehrmacht officers. She made inquiries since our family ancestral home was east of the Oder River and now part of Poland. She later found out they were scattered or dead, the Russians and Poles most likely got payback. Mass graves were found later when guys who go around with metal detectors looking for battlefield relics found mass graves of German civilians. The largest ethnic cleansing ever, for centuries German speaking people lived all over eastern Europe and others who moved in after the Wehrmacht took over, after they lost the Soviets said start walking west or the shot them on sight. Since in the late 40's nobody had not much sympathy for Germans taking it in the shorts, so the Soviets went buck wild on German girls. If you were a German POW being held by the Russians, they got taken care of about as well or worse than Americans being held by the Japanese.

Some reports coming out from Ukrainian authorities that chemical weapons being used in Mariupol, new Russian General in charge is a real evil bastard. Does this change anything? 'Butcher of Syria' leading next phase of Russia's Ukraine war (nypost.com)

I wonder if those guys left behind were officers, the enlisted guys have had enough. Explains total lack of control and discipline with looting and murder.

Before the war we had Special Forces (Green Berets) there training Ukrainian's not to fight like Russians. If you believe all the talking heads in DC, they don't believe the Russians have yet begun to fight by not sending their best troops 7 dead Generals and a Col. ran over by his own troops later.

I see most everybody is talking about Article 5 and if Putin gets desperate, he goes full CBN. What nobody is talking about is that Ukrainian farmers should be planting soon their number one cash crop of wheat and sunflowers. They are too busy now picking up scrap metal. If this war prevents them of getting into the field, we will be looking at a mass famine in countries totally dependent on them. Most of the world have 90-day supplies on hand but after that is exhausted, 3 weeks we are into famine. That will kill more thousands of miles from the Ukrainian battlefield, governments will fall, think 1993 Somalia on steroids. Start packing your pantries and turning your backyard lawn into a garden.

Hate to say it but mx troops had the same thought after endless 12 hours shifts no weekends off just so a guy can go from O-6 to O-7.

Does that include the 787?

I hope MX had their cyber awareness CBT complete, my whole shop was overdue by a month, it's a wonder that we got anything to fly. My learning stated I never had to take it again when I took it a year ago.

Our old M-1 Garands and M-14's can still lay down some effective cover fire. But with those guys most likely have not spent a bunch of time on the range with those. At the way things are going the Russian Army doesn't seem to have much training and or trigger time; learning everything the hard way.

Our own history during the Civil War when Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus between DC and Philly and he shut down over 300 newspapers.

You can make the argument why the Russian military can't fight besides the tactics and doctrine, the Russian society in general. The corruption has been around since the Tsar's. Has Russia ever been a society that has ever been one of laws instead of corrupt tyrants? Putin was himself a bag man for his political boss before he became Mayor of St Petersburg. Makes me wonder when he shakes his nuclear saber, does he have to spray WD-40 inside the scabbard to remove it. Missiles take a bunch of upkeep; I wonder if they even keep a warhead on top of the ones in the silos. Back in the day our Atlas birds had to keep fuel in the tube for structural strength so the war head would not come down crushing the tube, right before I joined an Arkansas silo had an explosion when a mx troop dropped a wrench and punctured the skin and the fuel exploded. Just thinking a Russian General knowing that his birds would never fly just kept one looking good in case the boss showed up and padded his budget and bank account.

This article says the Sherman had a 580% loss rate. A Poor Defense: Sherman tanks in WW2 – University of Illinois Archives

The tank commander got blown out the top and flew to the lower left of the screen at least 100 yards. Historical note, the Germans did the same thing to our Sherman tanks crews in France. Most of the crews that landed at Normandy never made to the end of the year.

I can see now the CEO and CFO figuring out to have cost over runs. Everyone needs to get on Netflix and watch Downfall on how executives destroyed an Engineering and quality led culture.

to quote the show Letterkenny "allegedly" if you know you know.

All things end, if Putin doesn't go NBC with his army outnumbered since babushkas armed with lethal pickle jars now are also armed with AK-47s. Their budget most likely pocketed by Oligarchs and Generals instead of being spent on training and equipment, an NCO corps in name only is probably the reason why so many Russian Generals are being killed with nobody up front to maintain discipline and keep the troops on point. My question is what will happen to us when it is realized by voters in Peoria that the big bad bear is a paper tiger. Will DOD get smaller, and the budget goes to peaceful pursuits? Just think of the lower-class kids receiving a great education by well-paid and respected teachers, the horror.

At least their drones are not catching Taliban fighters having man love Tues with farm animals. I could have done without that.

I'm old enough to remember what happened to the puppet govt that the USSR left in charge in Afghanistan in 1989. Their guy lost in a civil war against the Taliban and got hung, our guy we left in charge read a history book, took the money and ran.

So if Putin attacks Sweden and Finland and they are "not" part of NATO but "did" deploy troops to Afghanistan under NATO command. Let's just admit them to NATO to prevent what happened to Ukraine. Plus, Finland has US equipment already so they can integrate well with the rest of NATO. If we would have accepted Ukraine into NATO a year ago instead of listening in on a phone call to score political points this tragedy would not have happened. I'm to the point that when I see anyone wearing a tie, I go to default mode that they are full of shit until proven they are not

If Putin decides to level Ukraine, he dooms himself and Russia as well, they are the breadbasket of Europe, Russia will starve. American farmers will be taking land out of CIP and plant everywhere to try and feed the world if the bank will give them credit to buy seed, diesel, and fertilizer.

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