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Had a guy transfer in Oct—still hasn’t received his certs or flag. ARPC is now so behind with retirement processing that they’re not even looking at applications until the month prior or the month of transfer. If they don’t look at it until this late date, I have to ask: WHAT IS THE REASON FOR MANDATING A 6 MONTH (minimum!) NOTICE!?

I like MOAA’s alternative to vgli. Pretty cheap (until age 55), guaranteed issuance. Gotta get it within 90 days of separation and be a MOAA member to purchase. Planning on getting $200k for myself and $100k for wife. Otherwise I’ll be getting group term thru my employer which is cheaper than individual policies once you get to age 45.

You have to keep getting good years. They’ll allow 1 extra yr, in general, if you’re in sanctuary. This special sanctuary status will allow you 21 total years if you need it to get 20 good years. This would apply if you had bad year(s) in your past, for example. If you get continuation beyond 20 then that’s when the timeline is less stringent. Problem is you won’t know if you get continuation until the second failure of selection, so you can’t plan on it. Cat E is no different than other cats.

Bout the only thing you can do is try to enroll and if successful, try to claim points with the PCARS people after finishing your first "course". In my experience no one can tell you anything and if you try to press for an answer they'll start with the guessing games.

Literally it’s 5 posts up. But on another note: I’d consider all this to be beside the point b/c there’s no way the AF will not continue someone who is just shy of 18 yrs at 2xFOS+6 mos. I know it happened to a bunch of Majors awhile ago in the 2012 force shaping or somesuch, but the AF is bleeding people at the top right now, so don’t worry about it. And if you do make it to sanctuary doubly don’t worry about it (b/c you’re protected).

No one can know when the board results will be made public. If you’re in sanctuary by the time the mandatory DOS happens you are safe. Mandatory DOS is ‘public release + 6 months.’ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

We were talking about this 8 years ago, but sanctuary applies to regulars as well. https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/19851-sanctuary/?tab=comments#comment-354790

No prob. As usual, you need to do the math. On the surface it looks good, and the conversion is especially popular with O-5 to O-6. Not gonna lie, I was initially tempted. But I did the math and the extra yrs of lost wages on the civilian side made it not worthwhile. Now, if you’re gonna do it anyway and damn the math…well, there you go. I ran into this type of thing when I was focused on reducing my RRPA. Then at some point I said, wait a min… this whole effort is only worth $10k per chunk, what in H am I doing? Then take a step back from the kool-aid dispenser and realize that the whole thing is not worth much, comparatively, and depending on your POV, is a loss.

You need to have 3 years’ worth of active duty (EAD, AGR, ADOS, MPA, etc) as an O-5 to make O-5 attach to your regular retirement. Otherwise, as a reserve doing the typical parttime duty (IDTs, AT, orders here/there), you will only be adding points to your eventual reg. retirement as an O-4. There is also the conversion option: This is where you serve 3 yrs TIG as a reserve O-5, then retire as a reg O-4. At age 60, you convert your reg retirement to a reserve retirement for a pay bump. https://www.jbsa.mil/News/News/Article/2223797/converting-active-duty-retirement-to-afr-ang-retirement/

Well I guess it could be worse. In FY17 and on, the Army decided to award 0 pts for pme to reservists/ng. But yes, the games AU and AFRC play with the points in my view is theft. I got 83 points for ACSC in 2014. Nowadays, ACSC is much longer AND you get fewer points.

When I left Reg AF at 10 yrs, I had no intention of joining the ARC. But, the job market was not very favorable at the time and plan A fell thru. I joined the ARC for the pay. Then after a short while got a good-paying contract pilot job. At this point I used the ARC for scheduling enhancement and didn’t mind the pay cut (by virtue of working for the mil vice civilian job). Then a little later got into the airlines (ACMI) where again I needed the ARC for the pay. Finally got my destination airline and after year 1, didn’t need the ARC pay. In fact after doing 2 jobs pretty hard for 4 years I needed a change and I didn’t need to fly for the AF anymore. It was here that I only had ~3 yrs left to get the Rsv retirement. So I went to a non-flying AF job. There are other AF jobs besides flying sq that you can do and take up less of your free time. BLAB: do the math and see if it’s worth your time. PS: there’s some old gouge still out there that the REAL value of a reserve retirement is the healthcare. This is wrong and probably is confused by reg retirees who tend to cling to this idea. Due to obamacare and changing laws since GW Bush’s days, healthcare is just not that expensive anymore (company/union contract dependent, of course). Plus I’m not sure that even TFL is much of a benefit nowadays compared to the low cost of Medicare Advantage (TFL being a medicare supplement for age 65+ crowd). Anyway, you gotta do the math.

It was until ~2 years ago when the DODI was quietly changed. So now 4 study hrs per point, as decreed by DOD. Service regs may or may not have been updated yet.

Any clue if this is for RegAF only or does it include ARC as well?

Yeah I could see them saying something like "well we paid you a whole month of flight pay so really you're now 'on duty' even when you're not on duty" and then this line of thinking goes a step further to be "on call" so that if "you're the only one" you can be ordered to come in to the squadron to do whatever. Active duty lite.

NDAA just signed had this nugget: Reservist pilots to receive flight pay at the same monthly rate as an active duty guy, regardless of duty days, but first the services need to present their concerns to Congress, so who knows when it will actually be implemented. https://www.ngaus.org/about-ngaus/newsroom/incentive-pay-parity-included-final-ndaa

3 mo grad leave (had a tdy en route) 7 mo casual (ASBC, IFT) 12 mo T-37 due to DNIF 6 mo T-44 7 mo FTU 2 mo SERE, leave, PCS =37 months total from commissioning to arrival at first duty station then another 2 months for MQT

I was notified late Mar, terminal late Apr, gone by late May (by request).

Is this a troll? Smells like a troll…

One more caveat: if you delay receipt or claim of reserve retirement pay by more than 6 years, you’ll start to lose money due to the Barring Act which limits claims against the gov’t. This happens, for example, when an old boy wakes up one day, he’s 70 y/o and says “Hey! Don’t I get a pension?” So then he files for it and gets back pay only to age 64, losing out on what he would have gotten for ages 60 (or whatever his RRPA is) to 64. One question I had is: if I delay receipt of pay, do I also lose the ability to get Tricare until I receive pay? I asked the question to MOAA and they said yes, so there’s that to think about also.

To the extent a reserve retirement can be gamed: law says that you may begin to receive your pay any month after you’re due pay as you direct. Most people will elect to receive pay as soon as eligible. If you elect to receive it later, you will receive back pay at the rate you would have been paid had you elected to receive it at the time it was due. The only gamesmanship I’m aware of is beating taxes. For example: -I am due my first Reserve Retirement pay Jan 2039. -I plan to retire from my civilian job at a little over age 60, in Nov 2039. -I could elect to delay receipt of my reserve retirement pay until Jan 2040 to ensure it won’t be taxed as much (since I’ll theoretically have less total income in 2040 vice 2039).

I wish. It’ll be one year out in Mar for 3 yrs TIG. 30 Nov is my last chance to give notice 6 mos prior to 20. Thx for info—no waivers w/o strong justification. But that’s bs bc they’ll just say no and tell you to retire in the next lower grade if you want out so badly. That was not the intent of the law, I’ll wager.

Asking again

This is my opinion after looking at the situation since it was announced. I think that AFPC wanted to do this (maybe DOD), the good idea fairy took off, then someone noticed that DOPMA & ROPMA wouldn’t allow it. Additionally, I think one of the motivating factors was guys ducking out of the UPT ADSC 2-3 years early as a result of DOPMA (ie mandatory DOS after 2xFOS to O-4.

Success with the following: 1. Download the “Program Progress” from ASU. 2. Highlight what course you are claiming 3. Send via Mypers to the points people They’re now awarding 1 point per 4 “study hours”

I have had a pretty good time so far. I have no ragrets. I am an alumnus of Kalitta and Atlas. Currently UPS FO bout to start yr 5. Moved to SDF after yr 1. Upgrade appears to be as soon as 2023, but I’m not holding my breath. I did long haul (747) 2015-2020. Currently doing A300. It’s a change of pace and I like it fine. Living in base is a good thing and SDF is ok (similar to LIT).