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No, no issues. Yes, the waiver process was part of the package the recruiter put together to get me gained at the squadron that wanted to hire me. At the time, anyway (2012), it was required that the losing and gaining wing cc support the waiver request which was yea/nay at AFRC/A1. When AFRC said yes, the gain process began which took about 1.5 mos, but then the day of gain was backdated to the date the waiver was approved. For example Apr: ph interview with chief pilot. I was told to start the process and they would facilitate. I then went to the in-service AFRES recruiter. He did various things including submitting me for scroll May: Asked my losing WG cc for a letter stating his support for my continued service in the reserve. Jun: scroll signed by congress, I left regular and was commissioned reserve the next day (IRR) via Reserve Order Jul: AFRC approved hire package. Gaining wg cc had sent a letter also. MPF and ARPC started with their gain process Aug: Gain process finished, received position number backdated to Jul Sep: showed up to sq and started drilling/inprocessing/local indoc, etc Oct: started flying again

Assuming you will be twice failed of selection: 1. You can request an earlier DOS than the one they give you via Form 780. I'd recommend no less than 2 mos to give you time to outprocess. 2. If you are interested in ARC service, you must request a waiver in conjunction with getting a unit to hire you. The waiver (at least in the past) has to be signed off by the losing & gaining WG/CCs, then goes to NGB for ANG or AFRC HQ for AFRES. It can take a couple months, so you should lay the groundwork now with a unit and your ANG or Reserve ISR (in-service recruiter). When you obtain your DOS, have the recruiter immediately put you on the scroll to obtain a reserve commission as that process can take a while. 2a. There's a gotcha here. If you have a break in service between Reg and ARC, you will be ineligible for promotion until 365 days has elapsed as a reserve. You should do the "Palace Front" program. The ISR should know all about it, but the bottom line is that until you get a reserve commission via scroll, do not leave RegAF. 3. If you write a letter to the board which causes your 2nd non-selection, you will not get separation pay. If you eventually get a reserve retirement pension or VA disability payment, you would need to pay back separation pay anyway, so this may not be a big deal unless you need the money now. 4. Speaking of VA disability, if there are any issues you don't have adequately documented with the medical folks, now is the time to get it done. 5. Prepare for a civilian job. Charm school, suit, lose weight, resume, applications, logbook, mil to civilian certs, ATP, 1st class med, etc. All this takes loads of time.

Gents, I'm all for healthy debate, but engaging with a known troll is pointless. If you'd prefer not to see posts from this simpleton you can go to your Profile > Settings > Ignored Users (scroll towards the bottom) and then enter the name of said simpleton. Standing by for down votes from simple jack.

I had to “convince” my Wing commander to sign the waiver using my network. I didn’t know him, he didn’t know me so others (sq/cc, chief pilot, his execs) had to vouch for me. I haven’t heard one way or the other about others getting denied. The point of the waiver is to screen those that really shouldn’t serve anymore due to whatever (hard to work with, lazy, poor piloting skills, etc). The scroll and waiver are 2 independent processes.

So I can scroll right now if I needed to then

Scroll early and often

Scrolled=get your name on the list (scroll) that goes to Congress for Reserve commission approval. It used to be that the MPF would just give you a reserve commission based on converting your Regular commission, if you had one, or if not, then you obviously were a reserve officer on EAD and thus already had a reserve commission. Around the 2006 timeframe, all officers on EAD had their commissions converted from reserve to regular. And then the SECDEF came out with a policy that Regular officers had to get congressional approval to pick up a reserve commission if they transfer from the Active component to a Reserve component. Congress signs the scroll every quarter. So you need to get with an in-service reserve or guard recruiter to get your name on the scroll as soon as possible because it could take ~4 months for you to be approved for a reserve commission. I don't know how long the scroll is valid, but that should be step 1 for anyone who is about to separate. Once you are scrolled, you can separate and activate your reserve commission the next day and thus have no break in service. Why do you care about avoiding a break in service? The main reason for a 2x passed over regular officer is promotion. The rules state that to meet a board, you must have at least 1 year of continuous service (regular list and reserve active status list). So if you have a break in service when you switch to ARC, you will not meet the next promotion board in the ARC which occurs in the following year, which means your board will be your 2nd year in the reserve (because you will then have had 1 year of continuous service on the reserve active status list). BLAB (bottom line at the bottom): scroll now or you will get less money.

As soon as the unit hired me my recruiter started MEPS paperwork and got the scroll stuff going. I think it took about 4 months. I’ve heard of it taking up to 9. And you can’t swear into the reserves until the scroll is done. So I’d expedite getting that rolling. Got a bro from the navy who was navy IRR, selected by an afrc board, stuck awaiting the scroll and had to give up his original UPT date and get a later one because the scroll wasn’t done.

ARPC is doing extra-legal bs. They put you in the IRR but not with a commission. They refer to this as the parking lot. There is no legal basis for this but they do it anyway. When you get hired by the guard or reserve you will go to a recruiter who will then put your name on the list for people to be approved for reserve commissions, aka the scroll. Then a few months later you will have a reserve commission. It is at this point you can petition the AFBCMR to resolve your break in service, possibly, by extending your RegAF DOS to butt up against the day you received your reserve commission.

Can @Chida or anyone else shed some light on my situation? I separated from active duty about a year ago as a Captain with four years TIS. My DD-214 says Honorable, has my proper rank/grade, as well as my reserve obligation date for the IRR. Narrative reason for separation was FBK (completed active duty service commitment). A few days ago I got in touch with the Reserve Service Programs Branch (DPAMR) at ARPC regarding an unexpired UIF I had at separation. I wanted to ensure that it had been destroyed and removed from my career brief since it was due to expire last month. They've confirmed that it has in fact been removed from MilPDS, but they also told me that the PAS code I currently hold indicates that I was discharged and hold no current status, even in the IRR. According to them, it is SecAF policy not to scroll officers into IRR from the RegAF that have UIF's, even those that have a remaining MSO. They said that I am still eligible to seek Guard/Reserve jobs but that any prospective commander will have to submit a moral waiver with my packet. Here's where I get confused. I checked Milconnect that @Chidahad talked about in another thread, and it states that I am in the IRR. So milconnect and my DD214 say one thing, but ARPC is saying another. My biggest concern is that if I no longer have a commission in the IRR, then I won't be able to join the guard even though they claim otherwise. As it has already been said on this and other threads, I thought it was law that you had to serve your entire MSO barring some kind of punitive discharge or ETP.

Scroll up a few posts and you'll see my edited timeline with my orders dates included. NGB approval to OTS dates was about two months, with UPT dates following about 1.5months after that (or 3.5mos total from NGB approval)

https://mattstoller.substack.com/p/how-bill-clinton-and-american-financiers?s=w This article could go in several threads right now, but scroll to the P.S. line of that post for what's relevant here. Long story short, "Jacque [Gansler] not only hollowed out the Defense Industry, he did the same to the ability of DoD to manage the industry."

2 if you don't have twitter, use incognito/private browsing to scroll at will.

I might have just found out another trick to find your RNLTD. Might need someone else to verify it though... On the assignments page where the "EFMP Application" link is, there is a "Report Not LaterThan Date (RNLTD) Change Request" option 1. Click it 2. It goes to a myPers site "https://mypers.af.mil/app/answers/detail/a_id/24434" 3. On this site if you scroll to the bottom to "Related Resources there is an option for "RNLTD Change Request Application" This showed my RNLTD before it showed up in my CDB or anywhere else. You might also be able to just go straight to step 2 or 3 also. Hope this helps!

WTF is this scroll? I jumped to the Guard 8 years ago and all my AD commanders warned me about getting “scrolled.” Is it like the “9th hole at 9?” Nobody, FSS, recruiting, nobody on my base knows what “the scroll” is. Please educate me.

Here is what you can do to get out of the regular AF absent Palace Chase. Twice Failed of Selection (2x FOS) to the next higher rank requires, by law, that the officer be separated (unless continuation is offered and accepted). ADSC is a service-level regulation and the law trumps ADSC. 1. Write a Do Not Promote me letter to the promotion board. If you do this for your APZ board, this will get your separation pay revoked, but since it's an advance on retirement pay and you intend to get a Reserve Retirement, it doesn't much matter. The law also stipulates no separation pay for an eventual separation for writing a do not promote me letter to your IPZ board, but I don't know if the AF tracks this. 2. If you make the promotion list anyway, decline the promotion. 3. If you are offered continuation upon your 2nd FOS, decline it. You won't get separation pay in this event. Doing the above will get you once failed of selection, so you'll need to fail selection a second time to get your date of separation which is normally 6 months after the public release of the selection list. You can move this to sooner, but due to bureaucratic processes any sooner than 2 months after the public release is probably too soon. You'll need to get on the scroll to get a reserve commission and that won't happen until you get a waiver. Even after you get a waiver, the scroll process can take two months. Getting on the scroll before separation will enable you to Palace Front. Since 2x FOS disqualifies you for a reserve commission, you'll need a request for waiver signed by your losing wing commander and gaining wing commander to go to the ARC, so hopefully you can do the above without burning any bridges. Since the ARC needs people these days, it shouldn't be much of a problem as long as you have a good relationship with your command. As long as you don't have a break in service between the regular AF and the ARC (i.e. you Palace Fronted), you'll meet a promotion board in the CY after your separation and probably be promoted provided you have your PME done and don't have any adverse indicators. You can also avoid having a break in service by being placed in the IRR, but this rarely happens. Many involuntarily separated officers are not placed in the IRR due to bureaucratic ineptitude. Regardless, the scroll process is required to get your reserve commission and without doing that, AFPC *will* give you a break in service and then *may* place you in the IRR. The end result is that you will meet a promotion board in the 2nd CY after your separation instead of the 1st. It's much better to go to the SELRES or ANG via Palace Front than to try to get a scroll done for the IRR. I don't know if it can be done because the gaining wing commander equivalent in the IRR may not cooperate to sign the request for waiver. From everything I've seen, the Air Force has very little interest in properly managing IRR officers. I say all this because by virtue of receiving separation pay, the law requires an officer to serve in the IRR for 3 years, but many are not placed in the IRR or are not scrolled and therefore have a break in service. Any unearned portion of a bonus already paid will be recouped. It is within their right to recoup a portion of any tuition assistance paid, but not "earned" because you didn't fulfill the ADSC, but I haven't seen this happen except for voluntary separation programs. As far as transfer of education benefits with the GI Bill, it is within their rights to revoke the benefit, but if this happens you can reinstate it in the ARC. Contrary to popular belief, there is no continuation that is forced on an officer--it is offered and then the officer either accepts or declines regardless of ADSC. sources: AFI 36-2501, AFI 36-3207, 10 U.S. Code § 1174

looking for a little more info on this scroll that's been mentioned several times. I'm at a which came first moment, the chicken or the egg? Do I get on the scroll first or start the palace chase paperwork? Seems like the way to get on the scroll is contacting the in service recruiter? Anyone have the Nellis recruiter info? I would walk over there myself but I'm actually just starting a 4 monther, poor planning on my part... any info would help, Cheers!

So as an aspiring military aviator....am I better off bailing and trying to make a difference some other way? Make a bunch of money lugging a 767 through the sky, than donate it to fosters kids or something? Is flying that F-15 jut a nasty bamboozle nowadays? This isn't like a gotcha question btw man. It's dead ass. I have talent, watching what's happend in the middle east has for sure turned most people I know away from the military. They just have no faith. I have faith in the people who make up the hammer (the military), but seeing both right and left fail miserably lately, the military can be the best in the world but it doesn't matter if a bunch of drunken fools are the ones swinging it. It's not wrong, it's a product of the universe and an unavoidable paradox. A private entity is a group of people who want to do something a certain way. It is hard to say "people need to be free to do whatever they want"....but a private entity..which is just "people"....can't. Imperfect world unfortunately, Okay, this is almost worth its own thread. I personally am a fan of a much larger state militia/national guard model rather than a large active duty force. I think it produces a much more rounded decision maker, since their paycheck isn't solely determined by "war/preparing for war". It also engages more everyday citizens with the military. IMO most people I know don't know or really care about Afghanistan, what were doing, etc. Just want to mow the lawn, scroll through their feed and light the grill. I do not think lobbying has any place in government. I would argue it is the root cause of our governments continued inability to function efficiently, to the point where a strong central state like China is going to be able to out hustle us very soon, even if it costs their own people in the long term. Let's build it. Concur. Giving up guns is a short term gain (less shootings/homicide) but a VERY large long term loss. The American citizen should ALWAYS have a way to resist the government. If the government over steps enough and enough people revolt, the people will always maintain power. This only works however with a population that remains educated. A bunch of ignorant people with guns can be quite counterproductive. Also....imagine if the Chinese invaded us tomorrow...the amount of resistance the every day citizen could generate even if our military was defeated would be a real thorn... And I appreciate that. Back at ya, its sound stupid/corny, but not enough Americans engage with other people who may not think like them. IMO that is what is driving our struggles. It isn't left/right. There shouldn't be a left/right.

Another case study about "breakthrough" infections of healthcare workers in Israel: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2109072?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article Lots of medical jargon, but you'll get the idea if you scroll down to the "Discussion". Sorry, I edited this a few times.... I'll admit, I am not a huge fan of the idea of getting a piece of metal shoved in my arm and having some "mystery" substance injected into my body. I've never been a fan of shots since I was a kid. I am not sure there are many people who actually enjoy the process. I was fishing with my kid earlier the day of my COVID shot and hooked myself right in the thumb. It was pretty deep... blood everywhere/lots of cursing involved. Pulled it out, applied pressure and kept fishing.... I honestly didn't even feel the COVID shot. I dodged the anthrax shot for as long as I could and managed to get into the AOR without it a few times (they did get me on the last rodeo, however), but I'm intelligent enough to recognize that the data is the data (which we didn't have and probably will never have for the anthrax series btw so I'm still skeptical on that one...) I know that vaccinations are essential for a healthy planet. No matter what your religious belief are, you should be able to recognize that medical research is one of the most invaluable things we have. There are actually people out there that live and breath this stuff in order to better the health of human-kind and probably have no interest in injecting some sort of locator chip into your body. Are there side effects to vaccines? Yes. There will always be. There are side effects to Advil and Tylenol (ulcers and liver failure... still want to take them for your headache?). Are the side effects rare? Yes. I'm on Day 2 since my first poke. Last night my arm felt about as sore as it would from a Tdap jab and I felt a little more tired than usual, but this morning I feel "normal". Was this vaccine made quickly? Under the circumstances, it was, but can we recognize that maybe vaccine technology has advanced to the point where it is possible to make a vaccine in less than a decade? Isn't that something we ultimately want to combat things like COVID? When will the next COVID be? This stuff seems to happen every 10-15 years. Why must the rate at which we create a vaccine turn into a government conspiracy? The propensity for anti-vax'ing isn't just associated with COVID. If you look at the flu vaccine maps, the same states that are low on COVID vaccines are notoriously low for the flu vaccine as well. I'd imagine it's the case with all vaccines. Why? Can anyone explain that one?

Holy smokes dude, if anyone is chugging down propaganda from media shills, its you. Antifa has gone more quiet because a leftist administration that has worked to advance many of the things they demanded is now the regime in power. The notion that they are just hippies that don't like neo-nazis is f*cking laughable and makes me wonder if you aren't just trolling. Or maybe you really believed that the shit that went down over the summer of 2020 was just a "summer of love". Hunter's laptop story was effectively silenced by big tech. And the whole Hunter Biden story only continues to get richer (just like Hunter Biden) as anonymous buyers pay massive sums for his garbage art, sums that not even established artists could pull down for their works. Wonder where that money is coming from? BLM as an organization that simply wants black lives to matter as much as white ones is a flat out lie and a quick scroll through their own website will tell you as much. It has literally been defined, linked to, etc.. multiple times in this very thread.

I’m an active duty Marine transitioning to the Air Force Reserve. AFOQT: 20 Dec 18 TBAS: 24 Jan 19 Resignation Request Submitted: Early Apr 19 Interview: 6 Apr 19 Hired: 11 Apr 19 DD368/Resignation Approved: 23 Apr 19 Scroll Submitted: 23 Apr 19 AFRC UPT Board: 7-8 May 19 AFRC UPT Board Result: 10 Jun 19 FC1 Scheduled: 13 Jun 19 FC1: 29 Jul 19 Scroll Approved: Late Jul 19 FC1 Approved: 26 Aug 19 Separation from USMC: 19 Feb 20 OTS: Exempt IFT: Exempt In-process with 340th: 16 Mar 20 SERE/Water Survival: 6 Apr 20 UPT: 7 July 20

Thanks for the encouragement, it has really fueled my drive, but it's something I wish I would have known two years ago when I started this process. I'm actually far from O4 and still relatively young, but the question that I can't win with in the interviews goes along the lines of this: "Can we expect you to be an Lt again when you come back to the squadron from training? (making popcorn, taking out the trash, etc.)" It's a catch 22 because my biggest strength in my application is my Air Force experience and leadership roles I've already had to take on in active duty, but I know squadrons are looking for a FNG when they hire someone for UPT. In the sense of learning as a Lt, I'm all about it and ready to absorb all the knowledge I can as a student, but the more I talk about my active duty experience I feel as though it is hurting my chances more than helping. I'd imagine the time it takes to scroll isn't as big of an issue now with the length of time it takes to get a training slot, but who knows, that could be part of it as well. I'm definitely glad I went active and became an officer, but it feels like in an ironic twist, going active duty in the Air Force actually is my biggest source of drag in this process.

Are you a senior O3 in the scroll for O4? I was a rated guy, from another branch, and at time felt like I was some type of rated “bastard” that would bring some kind of baggage to the transfer process. Perhaps is not you, or your scores but the process to bring guys like us over is someone difficult and a dark hole of some type. It also felt like it was simpler to bring an off the street guy on board vs me. Anyway... I don’t have the secret recipe for ya nor do I have the special souse to tell ya about. All I can say is come to peace with the fact that your at a disadvantage. Chase the daemon and let all the rejection TBNT emails fuel your hunger to get hired somewhere. And if it all fails, ya can always join the army and go fly for those bros. Quality of life might get downgraded a bit though FYI... Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

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Beyond derail...REPEAT....scroll up.