MilitaryToFinance Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 You shouldn't have to. Our COC did that during Lead Lab one day. If you live near your Det you can pop your head in just to be safe but it shouldn't be necessary. Many people go home for the summer and are hundreds of miles from their Det(I usually was) so making them report in within a certain timeframe would be dumb.
Guest C17hopefull Posted October 25, 2008 Posted October 25, 2008 Our COC at my det told us 200's that AFROTC is considering making the FTM test at Field Training a go/no-go test meaning you can get sent home if you dont get a certain score just like the PFA? Any information on this?
USAF Pirate Posted October 25, 2008 Posted October 25, 2008 You should take the FTM test thinking its a pass/fail deal, you have plenty of time to study for it. Just learn every obscure detail in the FTM and you will do fine! Don't count on second chances. But no, I have not heard anything about this yet.
FalconXtreme Posted October 25, 2008 Posted October 25, 2008 me either. maybe it was something that was just recently discussed at the COC conference.
jjfly Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 I haven't heard this, but I think it's a good idea. When I was a CTA last year, we had some cadets fail both the FTM test and Airman's Manual (open book) tests!! As gay as FT may be, that's ridiculous. Maybe this will help some people take the preparation a little more seriously...?
FalconXtreme Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 wtf their tests were open book!!!!!???? thats ridiculous
Jenkspaz Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 If this does happen, make sure you pay very close attention to the stuff they tell you when you first show up (i.e. fire exits, safety info, etc.). Those are usually on the tests and tend to get people.
Guest C/Prince Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 What are some good jobs to get/request at FT? Anybody had any good luck with them?
KState_Poke22 Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 What are some good jobs to get/request at FT? Anybody had any good luck with them? Squadron Commander sucks, especially first rotation, but its an outstanding way to get noticed and if you do a good job then it speaks volumes. If you're confident you can do a good job its a good one to request. Safety Officer sucks, I was Safety Officer and you have to stay that way the entire encampment...you're pretty much the flight mom.
Bronco130 Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 Flt/CC or Deputy SQ/CC's dont get as much exposure with leadership till later at FT
dirkdigler9 Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 What are some good jobs to get/request at FT? Anybody had any good luck with them? Volunteer for everything possible. If they insist that you choose something choose group staff. Your life will suck for that week but the rest of FT will be a breeze and you will probably do well in the end because of that experience.
jjfly Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 When I went through, I was first rotation FLT/CC. My first TWO days sucked really badly, but after that, I didn't have another leadership position. It made the rest of the camp a lot better-- just being a good team player and follower. When I went back as a CTA this year, we were rough on the 1st rotation staff, especially FLT/CC, but you don't really expect much out them, so if they do ANYTHING right, it's amazing. Be careful asking for GP staff unless you really want it. Your life will be miserable, and usually the camp COCs are way worse than any FTO out there. Last thing- like all of FT, a lot of it will depend on your FTO. Some FTOs have it all laid out ahead of time... (i.e. 1st person gets FLT/CD, 3rd get FLT/CC, 4th gets Safety, etc) Others will actually go by what you ask for, but you'll probably never know which method they use. I'm sure you've heard this before, but whatever position you do get, just do your best with it!
Guest PBruton Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 It might sound weird, but being the Flight Safety Officer is a GREAT position to have. It's a non-leadership, so you will get a chance at one leadership role at minimum other than FLT/FSO. This gives you a chance to be outspoken in a good way - taking care of your people. Similar: D&C, AO Also Great: anything with a commander as the last word My Blog
Jenkspaz Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 It might sound weird, but being the Flight Safety Officer is a GREAT position to have. It's a non-leadership, so you will get a chance at one leadership role at minimum other than FLT/FSO. This gives you a chance to be outspoken in a good way - taking care of your people. Similar: D&C, AO Also Great: anything with a commander as the last word My Blog If you're going to volunteer for D&C, make sure you know your sh*t like the back of your hand. You need to be able to command your flight like you've been doing it for years. Also, make sure you know counter march. Your flight will eventually want to know how to do it, and if you can teach it to them so that they can retain it, your FTO will take notice in a good way.
jjfly Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 2009 FTM out-- wow... they got it out early this year. I browsed through it, and it looks like they changed a lot of the things... but some are still weird... I guess that's what happens when they try to align with OTS.2009__FTM_HOLM_CENTER_T_203_DOT.pdf
Guest atlantis15 Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 2009 FTM out-- wow... they got it out early this year. I browsed through it, and it looks like they changed a lot of the things... but some are still weird... I guess that's what happens when they try to align with OTS. I love the dining hall procedure diagrams...I like it though in terms of writing which information is required to be known, and which stuff one should be familar with though.
Guest C17hopefull Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 I love the dining hall procedure diagrams...I like it though in terms of writing which information is required to be known, and which stuff one should be familar with though. True statement right there, makes things a lot easier to study knowing what HAS to be memorized and which stuff just has to be known for the most part.
DFRESH Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 True statement right there, makes things a lot easier to study knowing what HAS to be memorized and which stuff just has to be known for the most part. I have a funny feeling we will end up having to know all of it anyways.
jjfly Posted December 13, 2008 Posted December 13, 2008 so, i heard this and had to see for myself if it really was true or not... FTM, page 65- "Cadets may have juice, coffee, etc. in addition to the required liquids." ETC-- so, soda too? chocolate milk? maybe at least they'll serve Ovaltine... because it's 40% better than Yohoo or whatever they say. WOW.
Archa3opt3ryx Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 whoa, hold up...ABUs are authorized???
Guest derek505 Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) 2009 FTM out-- wow... they got it out early this year. I browsed through it, and it looks like they changed a lot of the things... but some are still weird... I guess that's what happens when they try to align with OTS. Hey guys. Just a heads up, this PDF is a draft of the 2009 FTM. This is the review copy they sent out to the Dets so we could look for errors. I have the final version here in hard copy and it definitely has differences from this PDF. This one is good to get the gist of it, but don't use it for training, and def don't us it if you are going to FT this summer! Edited March 13, 2009 by derek505
Archa3opt3ryx Posted March 21, 2009 Posted March 21, 2009 (edited) Anyone know when we can expect to get our camp dates? I'm trying to schedule summer classes, etc, but I obviously can't finalize anything until I know when I need to be at Maxwell. Also, I'm curious to know who's gonna be wearing ABUs...our det won't issue them to us, despite the fact that a) they're authorized, and b) we have like 100 sets in the storage room. Edited March 21, 2009 by LoneWolf121188
Guest AirForceZip Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 Anyone know when we can expect to get our camp dates? I'm trying to schedule summer classes, etc, but I obviously can't finalize anything until I know when I need to be at Maxwell. Also, I'm curious to know who's gonna be wearing ABUs...our det won't issue them to us, despite the fact that a) they're authorized, and b) we have like 100 sets in the storage room. I think that if you talk to your NCOs you can work it out to get you an encampment that works with school. I'm not taking summer classes, but have other things that I need to do at certain times and I'm told that I can get an early encampment. No ABUs for me. Same situation, only our det told us they are going to the 100s.
Stretch Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 Stick with your BDU's, seriously... they're lighter, hide dirt better, and are a dime a dozen. You'll have time to get the 'latest, greatest' ( https://www.tigerstripeproducts.com/airforcetiger.htm 17 March 06 entry) of uniforms later down the line.
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