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Guest Flying Nole
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Does anyone on here own or has anyone ridden a Yamaha TW200? I'm looking for a good cheap bike that I can learn on in the dirt, that I can occasionally ride the few miles work. It will probably be used for 80% street/20% dirt. What I like about the TW200 is the fact that for around $2500 I can get a 2005 or newer with low miles that is pretty cheap to work on(Change sprockets, etc). Any input from you guys would be great.

https://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products...10/0/specs.aspx

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Hey I just got an 06 Katana 750 a few months ago. I'm going up to Deals Gap next weekend. Anyone been? Looks like an awesome ride.

Yes a few times. The cops have gotten bad on the Dragon so watch out. There are plenty other roads to ride like the Hellbender and Cherohala Skyway. Not sure where you are staying but there is a hotel in Robbinsville, NC called Two Wheel Inn (https://www.twowheelinn.com/). You have your own motorcycle garage attached to your room.

If you ride the Dragon then I definitely recommend riding very early in the morning. It gets busy quick.

Falls on the Skyway

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On the Dragon

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What 15 months in Iraq can get you and my soon to be track bike:

Sweet Ducati. A dude I know has the red one but he sure can't ride the distance that I can.

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Listen to Bluto, he's giving some good advice. For more info on the Dragon, go to the Tail of the Dragon web site. It even has a link to the Two Wheels Inn. Have fun; but be careful. The Dragon takes several motorcyclists every year. I see where it took its first on 28 April, a 'Busa rider from Maryland.

And if you really want a motorcycle adventure, ride the Alps. Nothing comes close.

Cheers! M2

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Does anyone on here own or has anyone ridden a Yamaha TW200? I'm looking for a good cheap bike that I can learn on in the dirt, that I can occasionally ride the few miles work. It will probably be used for 80% street/20% dirt. What I like about the TW200 is the fact that for around $2500 I can get a 2005 or newer with low miles that is pretty cheap to work on(Change sprockets, etc). Any input from you guys would be great.

https://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products...10/0/specs.aspx

I've got a few buddies that have or have had TW's. They're lots of fun as a little play bike. The fat back tire is perfect for sand and the low seat height is great for putzing around. It'd make the perfect bike to hang off the back of a motorhome for running to the store/cruising around camp.

How big are you (height/weight) - a 200 might get old really quickly, especially on the street (you mention 80% street). What's your dirt and/or street experience like? What's your commute like (I don't think I'd enjoy the TW on any type of freeway or for any longer distances)? What type of dirt are you interested in (sand/goat-trails/graded gravel roads)? Where do you live?

For $2500 you could probably find a late model (less than 5 years old) DRZ-400S that would probably be a better choice given your dirt/street percentages... It's a bit bigger (taller/heavier) but should have the power to pull you around the dirt and up to freeway speeds. Or pick up a used KLR-650 for the street (will do graded gravel and even more dirt if you can handle the weight) and a beater dirtbike (old XR-250 or something) to get your feet dirtier.

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Guest Flying Nole
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I've got a few buddies that have or have had TW's. They're lots of fun as a little play bike. The fat back tire is perfect for sand and the low seat height is great for putzing around. It'd make the perfect bike to hang off the back of a motorhome for running to the store/cruising around camp.

How big are you (height/weight) - a 200 might get old really quickly, especially on the street (you mention 80% street). What's your dirt and/or street experience like? What's your commute like (I don't think I'd enjoy the TW on any type of freeway or for any longer distances)? What type of dirt are you interested in (sand/goat-trails/graded gravel roads)? Where do you live?

For $2500 you could probably find a late model (less than 5 years old) DRZ-400S that would probably be a better choice given your dirt/street percentages... It's a bit bigger (taller/heavier) but should have the power to pull you around the dirt and up to freeway speeds. Or pick up a used KLR-650 for the street (will do graded gravel and even more dirt if you can handle the weight) and a beater dirtbike (old XR-250 or something) to get your feet dirtier.

I've only ridden a couple times and never owned a bike, and this is going to be the bike I'm going to teach myself on. I'm 6ft, 165 lbs and right now my commute is around 10 miles each way, and mostly in town. I live on the outskirts of a town and the dirt bike side appealed to me because there's tons of dirt roads and trails around my house. I'm finished with school and I have four months to learn how to ride before I leave for OTS, then I'll have casual before UPT. I'm not sure how the areas are around most of the UPT bases but from searching it sounds like most of them are somewhat rural, with not much freeway cruising. I thought that a bike would be an easy way to get around, and make the quick trips on/off base while saving on gas. Like you stated I'm looking for something that I'll be rising mostly on street, but traditional street bikes don't really appeal to me because of the seating position. I'd like the bike to be somewhat new because I don't know much about maintenance, and I was looking at the TW because it has a great support forum and parts are cheap. I'll look at the bikes you recommended and I'd really appreciate any feedback you or anyone could give me.

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I've only ridden a couple times and never owned a bike, and this is going to be the bike I'm going to teach myself on. I'm 6ft, 165 lbs and right now my commute is around 10 miles each way, and mostly in town. I live on the outskirts of a town and the dirt bike side appealed to me because there's tons of dirt roads and trails around my house. I'm finished with school and I have four months to learn how to ride before I leave for OTS, then I'll have casual before UPT. I'm not sure how the areas are around most of the UPT bases but from searching it sounds like most of them are somewhat rural, with not much freeway cruising. I thought that a bike would be an easy way to get around, and make the quick trips on/off base while saving on gas. Like you stated I'm looking for something that I'll be rising mostly on street, but traditional street bikes don't really appeal to me because of the seating position. I'd like the bike to be somewhat new because I don't know much about maintenance, and I was looking at the TW because it has a great support forum and parts are cheap. I'll look at the bikes you recommended and I'd really appreciate any feedback you or anyone could give me.

6' tall on a TW is going to be painful for anything other than a short jaunt - just my opinion. Have you sat on one? (Find your nearest Yamaha dealer and check it out).

You'll find that dual-sports are compromises and anything you get will either be good on the street or good in the dirt - but not do both very well. That's why I've got two :thumbsup: ... The 950 is great for the street, but heavy on the dirt (I'd call it a 90/10 - street/dirt bike - but way too much bike on both for a beginner) and the 450 is tiny for the street but awesome in the dirt (10/90 street/dirt bike).

If you're going to do mostly street, but want to try a graded fire road, I'd recommend the KLR-650. They've been around forever, are cheap to buy and maintain, and have better street manners than most of the dual-sports. If you don't mind less comfort on the street (wind/vibration/etc), go with the DRZ-400S and you'll have an easier time in the dirt.

Check out the ThumperTalk board. They've got a pretty good dual-sport forum where you can spend hours reading opinions on bikes.

Oh... and do yourself a favor and don't teach yourself (please, don't become a "self-taught" statistic)! Enroll in an MSF safety course. You'll need that course to ride on base anyways. Also, budget for some good safety gear (helmet, jacket, pants, gloves, boots, etc...)

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Guest Flying Nole
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Thanks digdug! Looks like I've got some reading ahead of me.. Not your fault but I'm definitely confused on what to get now. The KLR-650 and DR-Z400S look like great bikes but looking into it the MPG they get isn't much better than my car(around 35mpg), which is one of the main reasons I was getting a bike. As much fun as it might be to have a bike that can hit the dirt, I might scrap the idea because of the limits it puts on my choices. Also, I'm not even sure if there are any good trails around pilot training bases, which is where I'll be for the next two or three years. I'm really just looking for something fun to ride and learn on that gets me from point a to point b with good gas mileage. I'll have to go to the dealership to sit on a few.

Guest loydma3
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are any of you motorcycle riders in North Carolina?

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Thanks digdug! Looks like I've got some reading ahead of me.. Not your fault but I'm definitely confused on what to get now. The KLR-650 and DR-Z400S look like great bikes but looking into it the MPG they get isn't much better than my car(around 35mpg), which is one of the main reasons I was getting a bike. As much fun as it might be to have a bike that can hit the dirt, I might scrap the idea because of the limits it puts on my choices. Also, I'm not even sure if there are any good trails around pilot training bases, which is where I'll be for the next two or three years. I'm really just looking for something fun to ride and learn on that gets me from point a to point b with good gas mileage. I'll have to go to the dealership to sit on a few.

I have an '07 KLR, and just to give you an idea of mpg.....I get about 35-40 if I'm running out on the highway at 75+ mph, but slow down and you're mileage will go WAY up. When riding the streets to and from work, I'm averaging between 50-60, and on trail/dirt/fire roads I'm getting between 60-65. And I'm running almost everything stock.

Dual-sports aren't the most popular bikes out there, and while they do a couple of things well, they aren't GREAT at any one thing. You're not getting a Ninja & a KX all-in-one, so don't expect that out of the bike. The KLR is a GREAT bike if you know what you're getting into. Like said above, it's extremely reliable and easy to maintain. It's also VERY affordable compared to other bikes out there. I walked out with a brand new one last year for a little under $5K.

If you look, you can ALWAYS find places to go KLRing. Always. Any more ?s, PM me.

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Anyone in Columbus ride? I'm debating if I should sell my bike and current car for a newer car. Are there any tracks near Columbus or good roads to ride?

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Anyone in Columbus ride? I'm debating if I should sell my bike and current car for a newer car. Are there any tracks near Columbus or good roads to ride?

Nope, no good roads/tracks, and tons of cops...sell your bike and get the car.

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Anyone in Columbus ride? I'm debating if I should sell my bike and current car for a newer car. Are there any tracks near Columbus or good roads to ride?

Check out www.motorcycleroads.us for recommended roads. The Talladega National Forest is a nice area to ride but it is 2.5 hours away.

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I have a year of high school left and am going way out of state for college, anyone have a recomendation for a practical (mileage) and relatively cheap bike?

Guest Boom
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I have a year of high school left and am going way out of state for college, anyone have a recomendation for a practical (mileage) and relatively cheap bike?

Used Ninja 250 or SV650.

Guest Boom
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The Ninja looks good as far as mileage, handling, and price are concerned. Do you have a preference?

What I like isn't necessarily what you might like.

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First bike was the 250 Ninja, rode the hell out of it in HS. Kawi finally updated the 250, but they still fly out of the dealers. You can find them just about anywhere. I'm currently looking for a SV650 as well for the woman to learn on, also plenty of them around, check $bay/craig's list. Should be able to get one of the two for around $3k or less. Most guys think they have outgrown them and sell quick to get that CBR/YZF/Gixxr!

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What I like isn't necessarily what you might like.

True, but if I knew why you had a certain preference, then I might be able to make a better decision.

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Yeah, "naked" bikes are better for learners as a simple tip-over can be costly on a sportbike with full fairings. Trust me, I know that the hard way...

The Suzuki SV650 is a great choice, and there are others out there that are equally good.

Cheers! M2

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Yeah I would have to say a 250 is just too small and you would outgrow it rather quickly. I also read that the new 250 gets significantly worse mpg than the older models.

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I have a 2006 636. I started riding back in 1999 on a Ninja 250 and got bored with it real quick, however I recommend anybody new to riding to consider the 250 as a first bike.

And I definitely recommend a 600cc over liter bike for twisties.

Laters

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I have a 2006 636. I started riding back in 1999 on a Ninja 250 and got bored with it real quick, however I recommend anybody new to riding to consider the 250 as a first bike.

And I definitely recommend a 600cc over liter bike for twisties.

Laters

Hard to tell, but looking at that second picture, it looks like you need a new chain - that thing looks a little rusted.

Snapping a chain is a bad, bad experience...

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