Right Seat Driver Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 (edited) F'ing retarded Edited April 5, 2007 by awol406
HerkDerka Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 (edited) What about the number of trees killed to allow a think tank to publish "research reports" on putting surgeon general warnings on airplanes. Kill yourself. HD Edited April 5, 2007 by HerkDerka
Toasty Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 Because that CFM-56 is SO inefficient...gimme a break. If you're going to point at the sky and claim dead-dinosaur abuse, at least point in the direction of Shreveport.
Guest Bender Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 "We know that smokers notice health warnings on cigarettes, and we have to tackle our addiction to flying in the same way," he said. HAHA...I noticed...once you brought it up. Will I handle it the same way? Will I still do both? Yup...both. Thanks for the ink and paper and whatever you spent their money on. I think you should shit your trap, since you don't know WTF you're talkng about. Let's all drive there...that would help! F_ck the enviorment, f_ck the economy. My dad was rich, I'm dedicated!!! Douche. I still dip on the longer flights/days. BENDY
Dupe Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 Environmentalism is a bigger concern in the UK than it is in the US. Is it rediculous to the average American Chevy pick-up driving USAF flyer? Probably. However, if you're a citizen of a small yet crowded island nation, you have more of a vested interest in keeping the overall environment usable. I'm not saying they're right...just that their collective national priorities are not the same as ours. As a side note, I like English tobacco warning labels much more than the American ones. We've all seen the twelve paragraphs of 6.9 point font legal spew they slap on a pack of my beloved US-marketed Marb Reds. Here, they simply say "Smoking Kills" in writing that can be viewed from space.
Guest NoleMet Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 (edited) Okay, fine. Let's not fly. Instead, let's take nice, clean environmentally safe trains everywhere. Oh wait, how do we power those things anyway. Well, hmm, let's see.... we use diesel. Oh, wait, we can't - uses fossil fuels, produces CO2, blah blah blah. Okay, let's use electric trains - they don't put out CO2. Oh wait, we have to burn fossil fuels (or use nuclear power - the greenie's ultimate enemy) to produce the electricity. What's frightening is that these morons have enough friends in the media to broadcast their stupidity to the world, and a lot of people are dumb enough to lap it up. Edited April 5, 2007 by NoleMet
pcola Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 "Flying causes climate change" Seems pretty accurate to me. I change my climate almost everytime I fly. Unless its a local. Take off from Germany, its 5 C, 1000M -shra, ovc 003, Land at Sig, its 20 C, 9999, SKC My climate just changed (for the better.)
Guest Rainman A-10 Posted April 5, 2007 Posted April 5, 2007 Problem solved. Boeing Prepare Fuel Cell Powered Aircraft for Test Flight In an effort to develop environmentally progressive technologies for aerospace applications, Boeing researchers and industry partners throughout Europe plan to conduct experimental flight tests this year of a manned airplane powered only by a fuel cell and lightweight batteries. The systems integration phase of the Fuel Cell Demonstrator Airplane research project, under way since 2003 at Boeing Research and Technology -- Europe (BR&TE), was completed recently. Thorough systems integration testing is now under way in preparation for upcoming ground and flight testing. "Given the efficiency and environmental benefits of emerging fuel cell technology, Boeing wants to be on the forefront of developing and applying it to aerospace products," said Francisco Escarti, BR&TE managing director. "The Fuel Cell Demonstrator Airplane project is an important step in that direction." A fuel cell is an electrochemical device that converts hydrogen directly into electricity and heat without combustion. Fuel cells are emission-free and quieter than hydrocarbon fuel-powered engines. They save fuel and are cleaner for the environment. The Boeing demonstrator uses a Proton Exchange Membrane (PEM) fuel cell/lithium-ion battery hybrid system to power an electric motor, which is coupled to a conventional propeller. The fuel cell provides all power for the cruise phase of flight. During takeoff and climb, the flight segment that requires the most power, the system draws on lightweight lithium-ion batteries. Flight tests, which will take place in Spain, will demonstrate for the first time that a manned airplane can maintain a straight level flight with fuel cells as the only power source. "While Boeing does not envision that fuel cells will provide primary power for future commercial passenger airplanes, demonstrations like this help pave the way for potentially using this technology in small manned and unmanned air vehicles," Escarti said. "It also gives us hands-on experience to complement other fuel-cell studies being carried out throughout the company." Boeing researchers see promise in other types of fuel cell technology as well as the PEM system. An example is a Solid Oxide Fuel Cell that could be applied to secondary power-generating systems, such as auxiliary power units. This technology could be mature enough in 10 to 15 years for potential use in commercial aviation. BR&TE, part of the Boeing Phantom Works advanced R&D unit, which is chartered to provide innovative technology and system solutions to meet future aerospace needs, has worked closely with its colleagues in Boeing Commercial Airplanes, its Spanish partners, and with companies in Austria, France, Germany, the United Kingdom and the United States to design and assemble the experimental airplane. The PEM fuel-cell system used on the flight demonstrator, for instance, was designed and built by the UK-based firm Intelligent Energy. The demonstrator aircraft is a Dimona motor glider, built by Diamond Aircraft Industries of Austria, which also performed major structural modifications to the aircraft. With a wing span of 16.3 meters (53.5 feet), the airplane will be able to cruise at approximately 100 kilometers per hour (62 miles per hour) using fuel cell-provided power. The Madrid-based avionics group Aerlyper performed airframe modifications, as well as the mounting and wiring of all components; SAFT France designed and assembled the auxiliary batteries and the backup battery; Air Liquide Spain performed the detailed design and assembly of the onboard fuel system and the refueling station; the Electronic Engineering Division of the Polytechnic University of Madrid (School of Industrial Engineering) collaborated in the design and construction of the power management and distribution box; post-integration bench testing is being conducted in a facility that belongs to the Polytechnic University of Madrid (INSIA); and SENASA (Spain) will provide a test pilot and facilities for flight tests. Posted March 28th, 2007 https://www.azom.com/details.asp?newsID=8089
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