Guest piperwarrior Posted April 23, 2007 Posted April 23, 2007 So I'm sure theres some poem or song I'm missing, but what is the significance of "him him"? I'm a young grasshopper in need of enlightenment.
F-15E WSO Posted April 23, 2007 Posted April 23, 2007 It's a fair question, and I'm sure others could call me harsh in the way I answered. That's ok. Someone else may choose to answer it in full and that's not the end of the world either. If / when you're fortunate enough to hang out in or be a part of a fighter squadron bar, you'll probably find out. Bottom line: It's part of our heritage, and how we honor and remember our fallen comrades. If you're not in the know, then offering "A toast ..." is also a great way to show respect to a fallen warrior. Someday, you might throw a nickel on the grass for a friend. I hope you don't. If you do, then him him.
Ill Destructor Posted April 23, 2007 Posted April 23, 2007 Thanks for that perfect response. Not too much information, but just enough. piperwarrior and positiveg weren't the only ones curious.
Marjackson82 Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 It's a fair question, and I'm sure others could call me harsh in the way I answered. That's ok. Someone else may choose to answer it in full and that's not the end of the world either. If / when you're fortunate enough to hang out in or be a part of a fighter squadron bar, you'll probably find out. Bottom line: It's part of our heritage, and how we honor and remember our fallen comrades. If you're not in the know, then offering "A toast ..." is also a great way to show respect to a fallen warrior. Someday, you might throw a nickel on the grass for a friend. I hope you don't. If you do, then him him. Thanks for the response. While it doesn't really tell me what it means at least I know somewhat the symbolic meaning of it and where it comes from.
Guest Rainman A-10 Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 Just don't use it unless you know what it means and it means what you know. Simple, really.
TheGreatWaldo Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 So I'm sure theres some poem or song I'm missing, but what is the significance of "him him"? I'm a young grasshopper in need of enlightenment Reference "Has anybody seen my wingman" and you'll get an idea.
BADFNZ Posted April 24, 2007 Posted April 24, 2007 So I'm sure theres some poem or song I'm missing, but what is the significance of "him him"? I'm a young grasshopper in need of enlightenment Reference "Has anybody seen my wingman" and you'll get an idea. Scroll up.
TheGreatWaldo Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 Is there something wrong with referencing a song to get a better idea? I believe the words "song" or "poem" were used by the original poster. I realize the phrase was born long before the song came out, but if you listen to it; I think it gives a context to the phrase that you don't get by "scrolling up."
HuggyU2 Posted April 25, 2007 Posted April 25, 2007 As someone who enjoys the rich lexicon of our flying world, I'm curious to know more about this. I'm not part of the fighter fraternity, and as such, I do not plan to use this particular toast, so don't worry about that. Can you post the poem here? Can one of you fighter-types elaborate further?
Guest Jollygreen Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 It isn’t “him” but rather “Hymn”. As in a reference to a church hymn. It isn’t reserved or limited to the fighter community; it exists in other segments of the USAF. In the times I have heard it, the "Hymn" is normally stated in the following manner… “Hymn, hymn…*u c k him” It is not said in disrespect, but rather respect, and jest, for the one who is recognized. As far as I know, it originated during the Vietnam War. I do not have the details on when, by who, or why.
Guest rumblefish_2 Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 WTF? I just checked all my song books and they say "him, him" not "hymn, hymn"
Guest Rainman A-10 Posted May 18, 2007 Posted May 18, 2007 It isn’t “him” but rather “Hymn”. As in a reference to a church hymn. It isn’t reserved or limited to the fighter community; it exists in other segments of the USAF. In the times I have heard it, the "Hymn" is normally stated in the following manner… “Hymn, hymn…*u c k him” It is not said in disrespect, but rather respect, and jest, for the one who is recognized. As far as I know, it originated during the Vietnam War. I do not have the details on when, by who, or why. Ugh. WTFO?
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