Gun Talk

[Day Man]

Bud's has M&P10s in stock for those in the market...

[StoleIt]

[HeloDude]

We definitely need more beheading control...ok, that's too soon. Good to see that the armed owner took matters into his own hands before the other person was also killed.

https://news.yahoo.com/police-woman-beheaded-oklahoma-workplace-144459291.html

[Timbonez]

M16A2 Video

That was cool.

Edited September 29, 2014 by Timbonez

[StoleIt]

Rumor mill says that a friend of a friend just got arrested for having a pistol in his glove box. He got snagged for expired plates and then when he went for his registration and they saw the pistol in there.

What kind of punishment does that usually come with? I think the Sq/CC had to show up and he was released into the Sq/CC's custody or something. The guy is TDY Enroute at SOS.

[nunya]

In Alabama? Or on base?

[HeloDude]

In Alabama? Or on base?

My guess is that it was on base--otherwise I'm not so certain the squadron commander would be as involved (if at all). Plus if you look at the link below, you can have a loaded pistol in your car in AL, if you have a valid CCW permit (assuming he had one, which most people that have loaded weopans outside their home seem to have). Again, just my guess.

I'm not all suggesting that someone should violate base regs, but for those who may forget to 'not' have a firearm when they drive on base, I have never heard of an individual being searched unless they are being detained/arrested...however, I have heard (and personally experienced) many times of cars being randomly searched for whatever reason.

Hopefully the guy doesn't get more than an LOC, though in these times, I have a feeling he'll get an LOR or worse.

https://whnt.com/2013/07/30/alabamas-new-gun-law-what-you-need-to-know/

[M2]

This is what I found:

Base Weapons Policy

special Courtesy of
the 42nd Security Forces Squadron

2/1/2013 - MAXWELL AIR FORCE BASE, Ala. - -- Personnel who authorize guest activities and services for commercial vendors, deliveries and contractors, must advise all drivers and passengers in advance on the proper guidance for firearms and ammunition transportation on a federal installation.

Drivers and passengers are not permitted to carry and/or store concealed deadly or dangerous privately owned weapons, ammunition, reloading supplies and other dangerous weapons in motor vehicles. Concealed weapons permits issued by civil authorities are not valid on Maxwell-Gunter without expressed written approval of the 42nd Air Base Wing commander.

Individuals may only transport privately owned weapons on Maxwell-Gunter when driving directly to and from the armory for storage, the on-base skeet range, off-base marksmanship range, authorized shooting activities (such as marksmanship competitions) or their residence in base family housing. Firearms and ammunition will never be left unattended in vehicles or other locations not specifically designated for the storage of weapons.

Illegal and dangerous weapons include but are not limited to, switchblade knives, incendiary/explosive weapons; fireworks; gravity knives; inertia knives; stiletto knives; metallic knuckles; any device designed, made, or adapted to muffle the report of a firearm; short barrel firearm (rifle less than 16 inches) or shotguns with barrel less than 18 inches or both less than 26 inches overall length; homemade mortars; machine guns; nun-chucks, nightsticks; saps; blackjacks; throwing stars; crossbows; conventional bows; bow and arrows; metal tipped arrows; swords; bladed weapons having a blade exceeding 5 ½ inches in length; any other weapons that will propel an object by non-explosive means such as BB or pellet guns, air rifles, air pistols, sling shots, etc.; stun guns or any other similar devices. Dangerous weapons required for duty (e.g., OC pepper spray and collapsible batons) are exempt from the above requirements, as long as they are carried by authorized personnel in the line of duty. Small containers of mace and OC pepper spray intended for self-defense are exempt from this list and may be carried.

Any drivers possessing these items will be documented accordingly and immediately denied access to the installation and/or apprehended for weapons' possession violation. The sponsor(s) will be notified. Commercial vehicles are only authorized to enter the installation through the Kelly Street gate on Maxwell and Congressman Dickinson gate on Gunter.

It is not against Federal law to have personal firearms on base, but certain base commandes can prohibit it or at least require registration. I shoot on a military reservation all the time, and the only restriction is that I cannot take any of my guns into facilities explicitly defined under 18 U.S. Code §930 as "a building or part thereof owned or leased by the Federal Government, where Federal employees are regularly present for the purpose of performing their official duties."

It will be interesting to hear what becomes of this, unfortunately most times these result in excessive reactions....

[StoleIt]

It was on base (at the gate) and not that it matters but apparently he has an Alabama CCW.

The gun was loaded in the glove box (ie: not in a container or in the trunk) and he "lives" in the dorms so I don't think he sell it that he was going to the armory.

He is 7/8's the way done with SOS so hopefully they will just slap his wrists and let him move on.

[hispeed7721]

The problem is that on day 1 of SOS there's a part of the briefings that specifically says don't bring guns on base. Personally, i think that's ridiculous but given the awesomeness of Maxwell he will probably be lucky to finish SOS

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[HeloDude]

Not that anybody should be having a difficult time finding decent prices on ammo these days (except .22LR), but here is 1K rounds of brass .223 (Wolf Gold--good stuff for the range) for $300 shipped. We are more/less back to per-Sandy prices.

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/wolf-gold-223-remington-ammo-55-grain-fmj-wg59-p-4316.aspx

[slackline]

The problem is that on day 1 of SOS there's a part of the briefings that specifically says don't bring guns on base. Personally, i think that's ridiculous but given the awesomeness of Maxwell he will probably be lucky to finish SOS

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If you have guys that want to bring guns to SOS, PM me with a .mil address and they can store them at my house as long as they have a lock on the case. I have older kids that know better, but rather be safe...

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Not that anybody should be having a difficult time finding decent prices on ammo these days (except .22LR), but here is 1K rounds of brass .223 (Wolf Gold--good stuff for the range) for $300 shipped. We are more/less back to per-Sandy prices.

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/wolf-gold-223-remington-ammo-55-grain-fmj-wg59-p-4316.aspx

Well now you've jinxed it.

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[DFRESH]

Tl;dr. But with 0 sa on the conversation in this thread, I'll throw this out there. I went to the Beretta factory the other day and shot the px4 .40 cal. Amazing!

[brickhistory]

More old school nonsense - S&W Model 36 "Chief's Special" with 3 inch barrel

(not my photo)

Soooo, the wife carries a S&W Model 642 Airweight .38 special snubbie. At only 15 and some change ounces, it is a great carry piece. Light, simple to operate, going to go 'bang' when needed.

But a real b1tch to shoot. For her or for me. After 5 rounds of practice, she's more than done. In fact, the 'dread' factor becomes apparent when I propose some practice time. Even for me, 10 or so rounds and I've had enough 'fun' with the little bastard and am ready to switch to something else.

The original S&W snubbie, the Model 36, is all steel and has more mass to soak up recoil. Since I had the 642 snubbie, I didn't want another since it wouldn't be a carry gun, but I did want one to allow some non-apprehensive practice time. And the longer barrel just looks better.

I found on-line a LNIB Model 35 with the 3" barrel. At 1.4lbs on the home scale, it is heavier and after testing it yesterday, it does the trick in making it fun to shoot and not painful.

Before shooting it, however, I had to replace the original wood grips as pictured above with something I could actually hold. The skinny 1960s style detective-style grips might be good for concealed carry, but anyone with hands bigger than a 10-year-olds will want after-markets. I put a Pachmyer on it and solved my problem.

Although not very attractive, at least I can actually grip the revolver and not have to hold it like a dainty tea cup.

To enhance the grip and keep the old-school blued steel and wood look that I like, I have ordered some custom after market wood grips, but those are several months from delivery.

I put 50 rounds of 158gr. semi-wadcutter through it yesterday at 7 yards. Using a bull's-eye target, all but one went into the 10 ring. The one fly-away went way high and right when I tried the double-action. Damn, that was stiff and took some 'oomph.'

Single-action was incredible. No idea what a gauge would call it, but the trigger broke very lightly and very crisply. No staging, slack or anything. Conflating a very analog gun with digital terminology, the single-action trigger was either 1 or 0.

I haven't verified the manufacture date yet with Smith & Wesson, but I'm guessing this was a 1980s gun. (Edited to add: I just called S&W to see what the date of manufacture is - between 1957 and 1962! This thing is in GREAT shape.)

It is not marked "+P" so I have no intention of trying those out. Although our 642 is, that power rating is just too much for my wife, so 124gr JHP from Buffalo Bore will have to suffice.

Again, my rationale for this acquisition was a practice gun for my wife. Therefore, she and I are gonna have to practice the double-action use of this one. Although I said "rationale" as a justification to her (which she is not buying for a second), the truth is I just wanted it.

Compared to either of my S&W .44's this is like a 2/3 scale trainer. But it looks good and is fun as hell to shoot.

I would not feel out-gunned with it in a nightstand or as a carry weapon. But, in my opinion, there are much better options available which why I have other guns for those uses, but if you are handed down one of these from a relative or find a good deal on one, don't be quick to pass it by.

Edited October 20, 2014 by brickhistory

[FreudianSlip]

I generally only come here to lurk but found it 'interesting' that there is a political ad for gun background checks on the front page of Baseops.net; kinda makes me sad.

Edited October 20, 2014 by FreudianSlip

[StoleIt]

I generally only come here to lurk but found it 'interesting' that there is a political ad for gun background checks on the front page of Baseops.net; kinda makes me sad.

That's generally due to your cookies and keywords in what your looking at. The adds are all unique to who is looking...or in my case I don't have adds because Chrome + Addblocker is awesome.

[FreudianSlip]

That's generally due to your cookies and keywords in what your looking at. The adds are all unique to who is looking...or in my case I don't have adds because Chrome + Addblocker is awesome.

ahh...thanks...was worried there for a bit ;)

[ChkHandleDn]

Here are 1,000 rounds of 223 from Freedom Munitions for $289 . https://www.freedommunitions.com/223-Rem-55-gr-FMJ-p/fm223f55r-c1000.htm. I've shot their .223, 5.56 and 9mm rounds with zero issues.

[Warrior]

Here are 1,000 rounds of 223 from Freedom Munitions for $289 . https://www.freedommunitions.com/223-Rem-55-gr-FMJ-p/fm223f55r-c1000.htm. I've shot their .223, 5.56 and 9mm rounds with zero issues.

That's for their reman stuff and I don't think they're currently running a free shipping special.

For 10 bucks more ill buy the wolf gold at targetsports (it's back in stock) and they have free shipping.

[Spoo]

Too much talk, not enough gun porn.

Just got my LCP back from Robar. Grip stippled and matte black Roguard on the slide. Very pleased with the results.

Edited October 22, 2014 by Spoo

[Buddy Spike]

https://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/10/24/national-guardsmans-trip-to-walmart-with-his-family-turns-into-potentially-deadly-nightmare-then-his-training-kicked-in/

[brickhistory]

Well done.

[Timbonez]

Browning (FN) is releasing a 1911 in .380 ACP. It's the same size as their 1911-22, which is about 85% the size of a regular 1911. I have no interest in a .380, but maybe they will come out with a size appropriate 1911 in 9mm.

https://www.gundigest.com/guns/handgun-reviews-articles/browning-set-to-release-a-1911-380-acp?et_mid=699715&rid=236016303

[M2]

Browning (FN) is releasing a 1911 in .380 ACP. It's the same size as their 1911-22, which is about 85% the size of a regular 1911. I have no interest in a .380, but maybe they will come out with a size appropriate 1911 in 9mm.

https://www.gundigest.com/guns/handgun-reviews-articles/browning-set-to-release-a-1911-380-acp?et_mid=699715&rid=236016303

I saw that, but I wondered what would be the real point to a .380 1911? The GSG 1911 I have in .22 is a fun plinker, but that's about it. A .380 is a good pocket pistol if there's no other carry options (I have a TCP); but that's just for being out and about the house, or sometimes I just toss it in a bag as a second backup. I don't see carrying one as a primary defense weapon, and if anyone did, it would be a smaller pistol like the Taurus or Ruger LCP.

Lastly, .380 isn't cheap or easy to find. I know .22 isn't the easiest to find either, but at least it's out there.

Not knocking the gun, just wondering what the motivation to make a pistol like this might be...

[Timbonez]

They're probably jumping on the .380 bandwagon. Concealed carry has exploded over the past several years, and .380 is one of those "popular" ccw calibers. I'm not necessarily saying people are going to buy a .380 1911 for carry, but if they already have a .380 firearm, buying another gun in the same caliber makes sense. FN/Browning needs to make a true 1911, and I would like to see them make a reduced size 9mm version.