JarheadBoom Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 Read an article today saying the military spend $500 Million a year on military bands...that is more than the budget of NPR and PBS....combined. Washington Post article on $500 Million for Military Bands Radio-Info.com article on Corporation for Public Broadcasting (NPR/PBS) $451 Million budget What's the number for that Fraud, Waste, and Abuse hotline? [/sarcasm]... sorta.
Gunnerlit Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 My link And they question this? I read a quote from an Army general saying 1/3 of recruits had come from the motor sports arena (could not find the reference). That included NASCAR and NHRA. $100 Million for sponsoring multiple motor sports over years compared to the $500 Million a year for military bands. I know what I would cut!
Gravedigger Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 So, I saw TIB perform last night. It was every bit as horrific as I thought it would be. One of the industry guys at my table asked "Is this the Air Force's response to the repeal of DADT?" Another said, "when does the death from above begin?" What a colossal waste of money, and an embarrassment to the USAF.
HuggyU2 Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 The cost of all the worthless deployment gear that I get issued,... plus the fact that our contract "supply" store, IBExpress, is charging a ripoff amount on said gear,... is certainly more significant than these military bands. Get rid of the Marine Corps' President's Own, and the White House will hire someone else. No cost savings.
Spoo Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 The cost of all the worthless deployment gear that I get issued,... plus the fact that our contract "supply" store, IBExpress, is charging a ripoff amount on said gear,... is certainly more significant than these military bands. Get rid of the Marine Corps' President's Own, and the White House will hire someone else. No cost savings. Speaking of deployment gear, imagine how much we could save if we got rid of reflective belts?!?
SuperWSO Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 Speaking of deployment gear, imagine how much we could save if we got rid of reflective belts?!? Sadly, you know the response. A thousand reflective belts are cheaper than the life of a service member run over by a vehicle at the salad bar in the chow hall at noon. 5
Disco_Nav963 Posted April 22, 2011 Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) Thread bump. Got an e-mail via the squadron "All Personnel" distro today saying that the upcoming TIB Barksdale tour stop -- and the rest of their 2011 tour -- has been cancelled due to "budget issues." I seem to recall that when the budget deal between the GOP and the White House/Senate, one of the sweeteners was that certain additional cuts would come from the DoD rather than domestic discretionary. I wonder if this is one of those cuts. If so, that is how you cut the defense budget ladies and gentlemen. Edited April 22, 2011 by Disco_Nav963 1
sky_king Posted April 22, 2011 Posted April 22, 2011 Why'd they go after TIB? I guess they aren't as essential as I thought.
discus Posted April 22, 2011 Posted April 22, 2011 Thread bump. Got an e-mail via the squadron "All Personnel" distro today saying that the upcoming TIB Barksdale tour stop -- and the rest of their 2011 tour -- has been cancelled due to "budget issues." I seem to recall that when the budget deal between the GOP and the White House/Senate, one of the sweeteners was that certain additional cuts would come from the DoD rather than domestic discretionary. I wonder if this is one of those cuts. If so, that is how you cut the defense budget ladies and gentlemen. If this is indeed true, there should be much rejoicing in the streets as someone, somewhere recognizes frivolous programs when they see 'em... And gives them the ax they deserve.
uhhello Posted April 22, 2011 Posted April 22, 2011 Thread bump. Got an e-mail via the squadron "All Personnel" distro today saying that the upcoming TIB Barksdale tour stop -- and the rest of their 2011 tour -- has been cancelled due to "budget issues." I seem to recall that when the budget deal between the GOP and the White House/Senate, one of the sweeteners was that certain additional cuts would come from the DoD rather than domestic discretionary. I wonder if this is one of those cuts. If so, that is how you cut the defense budget ladies and gentlemen. Tell me you aren't bullshitting or got bullshitted. Please!
Disco_Nav963 Posted April 22, 2011 Posted April 22, 2011 I hope not! Discus has seen the e-mail too, so he can confirm that part of it. There hasn't been any official acknowledgment of it on the TIB website, Facebook page, blog, or Twitter account, but I did notice the PA release about the end of their 2010 tour (dated eight days ago) gave a date of 30 April at KBAD for the start of their 2011 tour, but the 2011 tour schedule on the TIB page was updated two days ago and reads "We are working to confirm our 2011 Tour dates. Updates will be posted as soon as they become available." So in six days they went from a firm date to no published dates. Maybe they're hoping to get funded in the FY 2012 budget and have an abbreviated season starting in October (like the NFL, snicker). There have been no posts to the TIB alums wannabe Baseops.net since April 2.
Learjetter Posted April 22, 2011 Posted April 22, 2011 Disco...WTF are you doing adding page hit counts to TIB's facebook, twitter, and "official" sites? Just let TIB die and move along...move along...
Disco_Nav963 Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 Okay, here's a non-TIB source. Fingers crossed that this is the real deal and not a momentary hiccup. From the 2 FSS public site: Tops in Blue Cancelled Due to budgetary constraints, the Tops in Blue 2011 tour has been postponed until further notice. The tour was scheduled to begin at Barksdale AFB on April 30, 2011 at Hoban Hall. This show has been cancelled. Be sure to watch 2 FSS Happenings. We will let you know as soon as future dates are announced.What can I say, TIB is my White Whale. Disco...WTF are you doing adding page hit counts to TIB's facebook, twitter, and "official" sites? Just let TIB die and move along...move along...
Dubs Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 What can I say, TIB is my White Whale. Call me Ishmael
disgruntledemployee Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 I knew that the AF would finally figure out that the TIB budget is the same as the CoP portal. I guess the CoPs are more important now. In honor of TIB going away, everyone thow up two jazz hands and shout out a high c. Or, just pop one a frosty one, smile, and relish the cold brew. Out
Muscle2002 Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Apparently being fabulous is grueling work: AF Inquirer Link
Timbonez Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 “I didn’t think it was going to be this hard,” said 2nd Lt. Robert Doyle, the only officer on this year’s Tops in Blue team. “But when you take a group of amateurs and hold them to professional standards, you have to push.” That article makes it sound like their budgeting issues are no longer a problem... what a shame.
Duck Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 I remember back in the day some AF group called "Blue Steel" or something like that. They were like a 4 piece band and actually pretty good from what I remember. I remember one black guy who played guitar and was funny as hell. I say we ditch the 35 piece and go for a 4 piece. Part of the government downsizing. Then again I was only 10 at the time so who knows. Oh yeah. TIB sucks.
Murph Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 300,000 people over 120 performances?! So they have 2,500 people per show? Sounds like typical AF number skewing to me (for example, when submitting an award nom for a mission, take the caliber of AAA you were engaged with and add 10mm minimum). Maybe they played at an AFA game once or twice to spin their importance to the check writers. Who knows.
HU&W Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 2nd Lt. Robert Doyle, the only officer on this year’s Tops in Blue team So does that make him the commander?
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