Old Guy Rant

[Guest AirGuardian]

Aaaaah M2,

M2's another Old Head rendering advice that is priceless and I'm positive he paid much dues getting thru Big Blue to bring them to everyone here on this board.

Good to read with you my Repsol Brotha. I'll PM you to get this offline and keep all others from getting about 'tossing' kudos to each other...

Cool Beans Bud,

AG

[FlyingWolf]

As long as we're getting mushy...

As a young guy entering the service... thank you. Thank you to everyone that has contributed to the amazing amount of truly valuable information on this site, the administrators for creating and maintaining it, and the "Old Guys" for putting everything in perspective. Most importantly, thank you for fighting the good fight, against our enemies and against issues within our own ranks. It makes it a lot easier for us young guys to not get disheartened by the BS. I hope I can give back as much as I have been given.

Alright, I know that was a little but I'll take the risk of looking

[Guest STFU]

Ok, I've been drinking bourbon and after 18+ years it’s time for a rant to you young dummies out there. I am sure some will scoff and a few more will certainly roll in on me, so let me launch a pre-emptive ###### you up front, I don't care, deal with it.

Yes I am old and I have probably been promoted beyond the rank of usefulness, but I’ve seen a few things along the way and I am going to share them whether you like it or not.

I will give my disclaimer up front; yes I’ve been to school a few times and endured the Air Force Koolaid funnel, but at least in my pea brain, I’ve kept perspective and still consider myself a warrior. I could give a rats ass about scarves, especially when the air conditioning in our building is not always the best, which is why I’ve never said a word about your sleeves being rolled up, and not only do I condone Friday morale patches, I wear mine with pride. Given that perspective, there are a few things that make me want to mercilessly clown the offenders on the following axioms;

1. Grow the ###### up! Ok I get it, you are 20 something and you made it through years of training, upgrades, Weapons School and you are at the top of your game. That being said there is no….I repeat NO freaking reason to be an idiot. Step out of your testosterone filled melon for a second and truthfully tell me how you would react to seeing one of your bright and shinny instructors in his corvette sliding sideways at 80 MPH through the main intersection to the front gate. Was that supposed to be cool? If you will do something like that when you think no one is watching, what are you doing in the jet when I am not around? Hear me clearly, I want you to be aggressive, I want you to think about killing our enemies and doing as much as possible with the equipment the American taxpayers have purchased for you…Hell I want your fangs poking through the bottom of the cockpit when the balloon goes up. HOWEVER, I also expect a small amount of common sense and the personal integrity to know when to “push it up” for the right reasons and when to drive like a normal human being so I don’t have to waste my nonexistent free time keeping your ass out of a sling with the Wing/CC.

2. Take some personal responsibility for your own career. I didn’t make the rules, I can’t change the rules, all I can do is compete you within those rules. I know some of you profess not to care about getting promoted, I have also had a few of you moping in my office when you did not get picked up for school. Of course luck and timing can play a role and yes sometimes butt snorkelers get a leg up (although they usually crash spectacularly), but you are not doing anything to help me or more importantly yourself. Do you think I enjoy sitting in my office 14 hours a day working on OPRs and PRFs when I should be out flying with you and teaching the young guys. I would like to see how your Shakespearian skills would transform “Flew 83 tac lines, restocked the squadron snack bar, and contributed to CFC into a working OPR. I am NOT saying you have to volunteer to be the wing voting officer, but for the love of god give me some details about those 83 lines. You are doing god’s work training yourself and others to protect democracy. Take 30 seconds and write some of that crap down so I can leave my crap hole office before 2000 each night and perhaps eat dinner with my family and tuck the kid into bed once in a while.

3. If I have put you in a position of responsibility, try being a leader. Chances are that if I made you a Flt/CC or an ADO, it was not for the purpose of creating more work for myself. See bullet #2 about OPRs, but interject the careers of the folks that work for you. Take a few minutes out of your busy schedule of talking about porn and American Idol and try writing something more than “Johnny is a good pilot”. I fully understand that everyone can’t be a general. Trust me I’ve worked up close and personal with the dudes at the very top and I don’t want their job. HOWEVER, unless you want the shoe clerks running the show (which might happen anyway), we need to promote someone who understands what we do and can lead.

4. Make a difference. Not everyone is as smart as you are. While it is far easier to help the dude who learns quick than it is stick it out with the dude who struggles, you are failing if you overlook the kid with heart. Some of you are getting just enough experience to become a little jaded and it is almost comical to watch you make fun of a new kid as he struggles a bit. How much would it hurt your ego to learn that many of us old timers said the exact same thing about you just a few short years ago. I promise you it is far more rewarding to help the dude with heart, and when the light bulb comes on, the reward is something that will remain with you forever.

5. Try expanding your mind. Kudos to the dude who just wants to fly his plane around the flagpole everyday. In years past we would probably survive with a bunch of dudes like that. However, today we are in the fight of our lives. We are engaged in two combat theaters, our senior leadership has been removed, we are being minimized as a service, we are most certainly facing a large reduction in our budget, our airframes are old and tired, our people are worn out, and many of our adversaries have found a way to asymmetrically defeat our technological advantage. The bad guys are determined and more importantly, they are our-breeding us 12:1. Enjoy this little factoid I recently saw in a presentation. Something like 5% of our kids are born gifted. Reference countries like India and China…they produce more “gifted” kids each year than we do kids all altogether. Unless you want this country and our way of life and more importantly the way of life of our children to go screaming down the shitter, you need to understand the application of war a little bit more than aiming five mils high on a proximity round delivery. Try reading a real book about war and strategy, we are going to need your experience someday and since you volunteered to be a professional officer, try acting like one.

I have reached the pinnacle of a very mediocre career. This is the job I always wanted and I could care less what happens after this. In fact, unless it is something that is a perfect fit for my family, I will retire and let the next moron try to lead you.

I genuinely love each one of you bozos and I would do anything for you. When the balloon goes up, I won’t tell you what to do, I will show you and lead the way and I will expect you to be on my wing as we fight like stormtroopers of the apocalypse knocking on the gates of Armageddon.

That is all.

This is probably comming from a guy who has never deployed or has not been a part of OIF or OEF. Keep drinking your bourbon while I am drinking my 3 drinks allowed in the AOR and deploying 270+ days so guys like you can go to school or rant about writing OPRs/EPRs. If you want to rant about something please tell all of us what to do or where are cool places to visit while we are back for our two month vacation from the desert. Times have changed good sir. We are tired of your kind and the poop coming out of it. Respectfully.

[Techsan]

I'm sure CH has paid his dues. Great 2nd post.

Kids.

[ClearedHot]

This is probably comming from a guy who has never deployed or has not been a part of OIF or OEF. Keep drinking your bourbon while I am drinking my 3 drinks allowed in the AOR and deploying 270+ days so guys like you can go to school or rant about writing OPRs/EPRs. If you want to rant about something please tell all of us what to do or where are cool places to visit while we are back for our two month vacation from the desert. Times have changed good sir. We are tired of your kind and the poop coming out of it. Respectfully.

After only two posts you have figured out my background and how the world works?

How about I had seven OSW/ONW deployments, a wonderful 120 day trip to Bosnia, as well as 2 X 120 deployments to Korea before there ever was a thought of OEF or OIF. Oh and guess what Einstein, I’ve done the OEF gig as well, from the start…shocking huh.

All told, I bet I have more time deployed than you do in the USAF.

You don’t like the “poop”, then don’t read it you fucking crybaby.

Edit...forgot to at the wonderful vacation in Somalia.

Edited February 22, 2009 by ClearedHot

[JS]

This is probably comming from a guy who has never deployed or has not been a part of OIF or OEF. Keep drinking your bourbon while I am drinking my 3 drinks allowed in the AOR and deploying 270+ days so guys like you can go to school or rant about writing OPRs/EPRs. If you want to rant about something please tell all of us what to do or where are cool places to visit while we are back for our two month vacation from the desert. Times have changed good sir. We are tired of your kind and the poop coming out of it. Respectfully.

Wow. You ain't from 'round here, are you, boy?????

[Insubordinate & Churlish]

STFU, STFU.

(Sorry, just couldn't pass that one up. +1 post count)

[abmwaldo]

This is probably comming from a guy who has never deployed or has not been a part of OIF or OEF. Keep drinking your bourbon while I am drinking my 3 drinks allowed in the AOR and deploying 270+ days so guys like you can go to school or rant about writing OPRs/EPRs. If you want to rant about something please tell all of us what to do or where are cool places to visit while we are back for our two month vacation from the desert. Times have changed good sir. We are tired of your kind and the poop coming out of it. Respectfully.

Epic fail

Lesson for new posters... at least look at the profile picture and the "from" section before making our first retarded post. KHRT yea because guys in that line of work spend all of their time stateside.

[flyusaf83]

After only two posts you have figured out my background and how the world works?

How about I had seven OSW/ONW deployments, a wonderful 120 day trip to Bosnia, as well as 2 X 120 deployments to Korea before there ever was a thought of OEF or OIF. Oh and guess what Einstein, I’ve done the OEF gig as well, from the start…shocking huh.

All told, I bet I have more time deployed than you do in the USAF.

You don’t like the “poop”, then don’t read it you ######ing crybaby.

Edit...forgot to at the wonderful vacation in Somalia.

Owned. Completely owned.

[Toro]

This is probably comming from a guy who has never deployed...bla bla bla...diarrhea of the mouth...bla bla bla....

Rule 4.

Your user name is spot on and your speaking privileges are on time out.

[Guest Cap-10]

This is probably comming from a guy who has never deployed or has not been a part of OIF or OEF. Keep drinking your bourbon while I am drinking my 3 drinks allowed in the AOR and deploying 270+ days so guys like you can go to school or rant about writing OPRs/EPRs. If you want to rant about something please tell all of us what to do or where are cool places to visit while we are back for our two month vacation from the desert. Times have changed good sir. We are tired of your kind and the poop coming out of it. Respectfully.

Were you born that stupid, or did you have to work at it?

STFU, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul!

Cap-10

[Mike Honcho]

Your user name is spot on and your speaking privileges are on time out.

Damn it Toro, why not let the guy stand up and tell us about himself? He's obviously a warrior in the most modern Air Force sense of the word.

You could learn something from him, he's in the shit RIGHT NOW.

Edited February 22, 2009 by Mike Honcho

[brickhistory]

STFU,

It would someone be like you that CH's original drunken post is directed. He knows you exhibit all the sharpness of a marble, yet he wants to help you in your professional development because he believed in trying to develop those traits in those under his command. How many times have you seen that before?

You see not all leadership is grown in the "Me" laboratory. Most is, granted, but not all.

I predict at least a wing commandership in your future, if not a MAJCOM.

Ever had the callsign "Doc?"

Edited February 22, 2009 by brickhistory

[Jenkspaz]

STFU, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul!

Okay. A simple "wrong" would have done just fine.

STFU: take your nuts, punch them, repeat.

[Guest AirGuardian]

STFU,

You have got to be one of CH's old friends stuck (oh supposedly stuck) in the Sandbox somewhere taking a jab at him just for old times sake... Please tell Me your a bud...

CH is just a couple or so years ahead of my crusty @ss. I keep seeing sand every month so let me know where you are and I'll showup on your doorstep with my empty Bourbon Bottle(s) myself... it'll be fun - a sober moment if you will.

Come on Toro, let him chime in and finish the joke... or at least enlighten us on his bug smashing endeavors...please Toro, please... He could be a bored 4 star, a 3,... etc.

Could it be CH who logged on as a "new member" with another account just to make it interesting...

No one is that F'n stupid are they? Well I guess its true - "You can't fix Stupid...

AG

Edited February 23, 2009 by AirGuardian

[Toro]

No one is that F'n stupid are they?

There's one way to find out - I've renabled his posting ability.

[Mike Honcho]

There's one way to find out - I've renabled his posting ability.

Nice. STFU, stand up. Tell us about yourself.

[M2]

I think STFU has...

Cheers! M2

[TacAirCoug]

I would like to direct this post toward Bill Gates and Al Gore.

Thank you, Gentlemen. It is because of your twin miracles, Microsoft Windows and The Internet, that I am fortunate enough to be able to watch STFU choke on his own foot, see the ensuing swings of a meat tenderizer into his junk, and simultaneously in an adjacent tiled window indulge in an infinite stream of pornographic videos. All while a heated game of Pocket Tanks is minimized in the background.

I can do all of this with a cheap beer buzz and Cheeto stained fingers while wearing only boxer-briefs and knee-high athletic socks because of you.

So, thank you Mr. Gates and Mr. Gore, you are the epitome of what it means to be American Heroes.

[slacker]

No way STFU is real. Clearly someone getting a shitstorm started and then laughing their ass off.

[Fud]

Okay. A simple "wrong" would have done just fine.

STFU: take your nuts, punch them, repeat.

I think he was quoting "Happy Gilmore", but yes, a simple "wrong" would have sufficed.

[B*D*A]

No way STFU is real. Clearly someone getting a shitstorm started and then laughing their ass off.

Concur.

[Jenkspaz]

I think he was quoting "Happy Gilmore", but yes, a simple "wrong" would have sufficed.

I know. That's a quote from Happy Gilmore, as well.

[Toro]

I think he was quoting "Happy Gilmore", but yes, a simple "wrong" would have sufficed.

Actually, it's Billy Madison, and Jenkspaz had it right. Go watch the movie again if it doesn't make sense.

STFU...still waiting.

[Jenkspaz]

Actually, it's Billy Madison, and Jenkspaz had it right. Go watch the movie again if it doesn't make sense.

STFU...still waiting.

Wow, I can't believe I switched those two up. Must have just been on a roll after reading "Happy Gilmore" on the post. "If peeing in your pants is cool, consider me STFU."