Leadership at the 'Deid

[Techsan]

I heard these guys got Article 15s and were sent home...

You serious Clark?

[BQZip01]

You serious Clark?

Where's my "sarcasm" button...

[The Texan]

Roll the balls.

[discus]

I think these E-Mails from CCM's are becomeing a standard cut and paste. Much like this war, it's just getting old. Keywords "laser focus", "How well are they performing their primary job?", "Salute" etc, etc, etc.

-----Original Message-----

From: CMSgt USAF AFCENT XXX AEW/CCC

Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:21 PM

To: Maybury All Personnel

Subject: CCM Concerns

Maybury All,

The time has come to address some items that seem to have

been lost from the professionalism expected of all of you each and every day. The first being customs and courtesies; yes, you have heard it before and yes, you will hear it again. There are several cars on the installation that are operated by your Senior Leadership. Their rank is prominently displayed in the lower corner of the driver's side windshield. When you encounter this vehicle

while walking the roadways of Maybury, or anywhere outdoors, you are required to salute and hold the salute until one is returned or the vehicle has passed. This is a requirement you were all taught in basic training and or the officer

training you attended. It appears as though some have forgotten this. Simply turning your head or looking down as the vehicle approaches is unacceptable and believe me, it is very obvious when this occurs. Also, when addressed by anyone senior in rank to you, it is proper to stand, if sitting, and address them using proper English (not yeah or nope, etc) yes Sir/Ma'am, MSgt, Captain, etc....you see the point here, so practice it.

tem two is one that you all have heard during Warrior Welcome and if you are a violator, you have most certainly heard several times over....adherence to standards! That is correct, our reputation as the Premier Air Force across the world is based upon our ability to develop, enforce and adhere to our standards. This does not mean that you can pick and choose the ones you like. It does mean you adhere to and enforce them all, like them or not. One of the biggest issues our Chiefs and First Sergeants deal with on a continuing basis is members on this installation not following our uniform standard. For many years we did not have clear guidance but that has changed when 36-2903 was finally updated and published last July. This is a standing written order (signed by a 3-star General) and is lawful. Very little in the guidance has been left to interpretation and if it was, it has been clarified by the AFCENT Supplement (also signed by a 3-Star General) and our local Community Standards (signed by a 1-Star General). Each of these documents is legally binding orders from commanders appointed above you. You each swore to uphold those orders when you took your oath of enlistment/office. As professional Airmen, you are required to understand, adhere to and enforce "all" standards, no excuses. I cannot tell you how many times I have heard the excuse "I didn't know" or "oh, you do that here." These are all unacceptable answers from anyone that has graduated from basic training and/or officer training school. If you are unfamiliar with the standards, it is time to make a change in your life and read them, understand them and ask questions if need be. There is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid mistakes. I have attached a copy of the Maybury Community Standards. The AFCENTI 36-2903 and AFI 36-2903 links are located below.

Finally, don't be afraid of confronting those that are violating the standards, they should thank you for caring enough to correct

them. I sometimes worry about individuals that consistently violate standards and seem to have the "I don't give a crap" attitude; I ask myself how well are they performing their job? Are they cutting corners there as well? Doing just enough to get by? Are they the ones working on the planes we fly (or better yet flying them), or the cars we drive, or the food we eat, or protecting us at the gates, etc. I could go on and on with this but I think by now you get the point. We are a profession of arms and you are "all" Professional Airmen performing your jobs flawlessly every single day, saving countless lives in the AOR. Our Brother and Sisters (of all Service Components) on the ground depend on you all to be just that....Professional "all the time"! I need you all to step up, be engaged and laser-focused on the task at hand; be a part of the cure....not the disease.

Link to AFI 36-2903:

HUA,

Chief Copy-Paste

PAUL COPY-PASTE, CMSgt, USAF

xxx AEW Command Chief

DSN Comm VoSIP:

Edited February 22, 2012 by discus

[Karl Hungus]

Stop deleting their names. There's nothing of OPSEC concern in the email, so call these people out.

[brickhistory]

That letter in both its details and the mere fact of its existence says it all.

The author points out the "lawful order" and supplement signed off by 2 lieutenant generals and 1 brigadier general.

The author works for the local wing commander either a BG or an O-6.

And this is tolerated.

It is not the "chiefs" doing it, it is the Air Force's leadership ceding that leadership to someone else, in this case the Chiefs' union.

Failure of USAF leadership and not the senior enlisted.

I am sad for you.

[Clayton Bigsby]

What a faggot.

"YOUR MOUSTACHES IS IN VIOLATIONS! Y'ALL LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF ELVISES!"

Edited February 22, 2012 by Clayton Bigsby

[Guest]

Stop deleting their names. There's nothing of OPSEC concern in the email, so call these people out.

Disagree. Nothing gained by calling them out in this venue.

Remember, this is public space and we need to respect people's privacy regardless of the level of bufoonery. They are on the team.

[Karl Hungus]

Disagree. Nothing gained by calling them out in this venue.

Remember, this is public space and we need to respect people's privacy regardless of the level of bufoonery. They are on the team.

Disagree. He sent the email out to AEW/ALL. He had the blessing of management. Somehow, the Emperor needs to be told he has no clothes, because apparently management either won't call out their own or genuinely believes in this nonsense. Not sure which is worse.

Edited February 22, 2012 by Karl Hungus

[Guest]

I sometimes worry about individuals that consistently violate standards and seem to have the "I don't give a crap" attitude; I ask myself how well are they performing their job?

Failed logic.

Our Brother and Sisters (of all Service Components) on the ground depend on you....

Fail.

The guys on the ground could give two shits about salutes or PT shirts.

Disagree. He sent the email out to xxx AEW/ALL.

You could not be more wrong.

There is no reason for anyone to believe an email sent to the members of the wing would somehow be posted on the internet with names and places. In fact, doing so (like you have done by identifying the wing) would likely land someone in deep shit.

Slow down and think.

Edited February 22, 2012 by Rainman A-10

[Karl Hungus]

You could not be more wrong.

There is no reason for anyone to believe an email sent to the members of the wing would somehow be posted on the internet with names and places. In fact, doing so (like you have done by identifying the wing) would likely land someone in deep shit.

Slow down and think.

Fair enough.

Perhaps I should stop taking this nonsense so personally. Dunno why I give a shit anymore. Pretty obvious that none of this BS will ever go away.

[discus]

It CAN go away. The people on this board are mainly composed of the future leadership of the USAF. We can always remember what things were like from the mid 2000's on and promise ourselves that we will not repeat these mistakes. We can fix this, we just need to squash our peers who seem to be on board with BS like this on a peer-pressure level and move from there.

(I hope, anyway)

[magnetfreezer]

It CAN go away. The people on this board are mainly composed of the future leadership of the USAF. We can always remember what things were like from the mid 2000's on and promise ourselves that we will not repeat these mistakes. We can fix this, we just need to squash our peers who seem to be on board with BS like this on a peer-pressure level and move from there.

(I hope, anyway)

Those of us who don't agree will either be RIFed or not selected for command due to not toeing the party line. Stuff like this has a way of self perpetuating.

Edited February 22, 2012 by magnetfreezer

[BQZip01]

Disagree. He sent the email out to AEW/ALL. He had the blessing of management. Somehow, the Emperor needs to be told he has no clothes, because apparently management either won't call out their own or genuinely believes in this nonsense. Not sure which is worse.

As it was not labeled FOUO, it is in the public domain and is required to be accessible to all Americans under the Freedom of Information Act (think about that next time you send an e-mail).

Also, when addressed by anyone senior in rank to you, it is proper to stand, if sitting, and address them using proper English...

followed by:

Each of these documents is legally binding orders from commanders appointed above you.

Don't criticize language usage when you can't get it right yourself.

...our reputation as the Premier Air Force across the world is based upon our ability to develop, enforce and adhere to our standards.

Again with the grammar. Isn't the PAF the Pakistani AF? As to the comment, funny, I thought we were respected because we kick ass and take names, but we don't abuse other countries for no reason. Clearly I've been misinformed. I guess North Korea's Air Force is a better example of a "Premier Air Force" because they adhere to standards or die.

Those of us who don't agree will either be RIFed or not selected for command due to not toeing the party line. Stuff like this has a way of self perpetuating.

Then it behooves us to see to it that we correct it...

...well, those of us that don't get RIF'd

[skibum]

It CAN go away. The people on this board are mainly composed of the future leadership of the USAF.

While I agree this board consists of mainly [potential] future leaders, I can confirm this particular thread has been seen by some current leaders at a pretty high level. Word gets out. Keep hope alive.

[BitteEinBit]

I'm glad some "senior leadership" reads these threads. Hopefully some of it gets through. As for the Chief...he/she has answered their own question if they are sincere in their assessment. All I ask from my "leadership" is honest feedback. Don't feed us bullshit if you don't really mean it. Just like it is obvious when an airman looks away to avoid saluting a staff car, it is obvious when we are being fed insincere bullshit.

Don't ask a question like this:

Finally, don't be afraid of confronting those that are violating the standards, they should thank you for caring enough to correct

them. I sometimes worry about individuals that consistently violate standards and seem to have the "I don't give a crap" attitude; I ask myself how well are they performing their job? Are they cutting corners there as well? Doing just enough to get by? Are they the ones working on the planes we fly (or better yet flying them), or the cars we drive, or the food we eat, or protecting us at the gates, etc. I could go on and on with this but I think by now you get the point.

...and then follow up with this:

We are a profession of arms and you are "all" Professional Airmen performing your jobs flawlessly every single day, saving countless lives in the AOR. Our Brother and Sisters (of all Service Components) on the ground depend on you all to be just that....Professional "all the time"! I need you all to step up, be engaged and laser-focused on the task at hand; be a part of the cure....not the disease.

If you really believe we perform our jobs flawlessly every day, then you shouldn't have to wonder if the guy with his shirt untucked or socks not high enough is performing his primary duty correctly. Stop making excuses for the reasons you continue to focus on queep when they obviously don't matter if we are performing our jobs "flawlessly." Or maybe you don't really believe that...if not, be honest with your assessment and feedback.

Leadership starts with your credibility and honesty. You help no one by telling everyone they are a winner....

[Napoleon_Tanerite]

It CAN go away. The people on this board are mainly composed of the future leadership of the USAF. We can always remember what things were like from the mid 2000's on and promise ourselves that we will not repeat these mistakes. We can fix this, we just need to squash our peers who seem to be on board with BS like this on a peer-pressure level and move from there.

(I hope, anyway)

While that's good in theory, you forget that guys who would do something about this stupidity will have long since pulled the handle and gotten the hell out of the Air Force before they were high enough in rank to make a real difference at anything other than maybe the SQ level. Like it or not, today's Christmas party planners are tomorrow's AF leaders. They are the types who have dranketh of the blue kool aid and found its current taste appealing. This isn't all non-ops leadership pushing this either. Keep in mind that the VAST majority of AF senior leadership are comprised of rated guys. I know of a few Capts who are already of the mindset that they will do whatever it takes to get ahead, and that includes kool aid drinking, queep pushing and back stabbing. Maybe I should be nice to them because I know they are going places some day, but I don't GAF enough, I'm too busy actually flying and not planning the next SQ golf tournament.

[Homestar]

I personally stopped reading after "warrior".

[Bergman]

Finally, don't be afraid of confronting those that are violating the standards

It is encouragement like this that leads to A1Cs thinking they can jack up a field grade officer for having an untucked shirt.

How about..."Finally, don't be afraid to respectfully approach those...." instead? Whether you outrank someone or not, just a little common courtesy and a friendly attitude (even if you are correcting them) will go a long way. This E-9 has clearly missed that point.

[Guest]

This E-9 has clearly missed that point.

This has become so standard it is UFB.

It would be nice if some of these fuckers had ever killed someone, then they could be self-policing on attitudes about stupid bullshit.

[daynightindicator]

Maybe when OEF closes out we can start promoting some JTAC/TACP types to the E-9 ranks

[Fudge]

HUA!

(rolls eyes...)

[Cornholio5]

While that's good in theory, you forget that guys who would do something about this stupidity will have long since pulled the handle and gotten the hell out of the Air Force before they were high enough in rank to make a real difference at anything other than maybe the SQ level. Like it or not, today's Christmas party planners are tomorrow's AF leaders. They are the types who have dranketh of the blue kool aid and found its current taste appealing. This isn't all non-ops leadership pushing this either. Keep in mind that the VAST majority of AF senior leadership are comprised of rated guys. I know of a few Capts who are already of the mindset that they will do whatever it takes to get ahead, and that includes kool aid drinking, queep pushing and back stabbing. Maybe I should be nice to them because I know they are going places some day, but I don't GAF enough, I'm too busy actually flying and not planning the next SQ golf tournament.

Perfectly said Napoleon! I was told by our Christmas Party planner (who happens to be the SQ exec too) that it is ok for me to fly as much as I am because he will just take on all the other extra duties too to take the heat off of all of us flyers. Man that pissed me off and made me really happy at the same time because I don't give in to all the queep. My wife has told me multiple times to quit complaining about the AF and if I really want to change it to just become one of the leadership. Well this guy does not want to live the next 20 years being absolutely miserable trying to get to the top to change the system. I think the only real way of changing this system is the mass exodus of officers here soon if the airline boom is supposedly going to happen.

Read below! I have no idea who wrote this but I sure as hell want to thank them and shake their hand. This made me laugh my ass off--so typical of the crap that happens at the Deid. Enjoy!!!

It's time for the latest and greatest tale from the land of the

permanent sun. Gird your loins, stock up on Valtrex and Gatorade & get

your piddle packs ready, because this one is a doozy!

First off, allow me to preface all of this with an observation that may

be obvious to some. Apparently, as one rises in the enlisted ranks, life

becomes less and less about the kicking of ass, taking of names, and

chewing of bubble gum. In fact, the closer one gets to the exalted rank

of Chief, the more ones day revolves around completely losing your shit

over relatively minor (and sometimes nonexistent) uniform infractions.

Believe me when I say that Chiefs "losing their shit" is an

understatement. We're talking completely bug######, batshit,

"I'm-going-to-punch-you-in-the-face-till-you-stop-breathing-and-then-wea

r-your-face-like-a-mask-while-i-do-my-little-kooky-dance-if-you-don't-zi

p-your-pocket-shut" crazy. The troops here are more afraid of being

'Chiefed' than they are of the insurgents lobbing a rocket into the

crapper while they're in the middle of dropping off some timber. I

forwarded the email to some of y'all documenting the latest in the

36-2903 jihad; the wearing of 550 cord bracelets. Apparently, these are

considered uber verboten due to them not being 'conservative'

(conservative defined as gold or silver). Fun side note, an army field

manual actually describes 550 cord bracelets thusly: "A paracord

bracelet provides an easy way to carry a large amount of cord for an

emergency, whether in combat, as an outdoor survival tool, or merely

when a piece of equipment needs securing."

To date, people all around the Iraq have been at the receiving end of

holy righteous fury for such treasonous infractions as:

-PT shirt not tucked in

-PT shirt too sweaty

-Socks too short

-Socks too long

-Socks wrong color

-Mustache too wide

-Mustache too long

-Mustache too scraggly

-Mustache too mustache-y outside of the month of March -Riding a bike on

the sidewalk (the only alternative being to drag it through 8-inch deep

gravel & try not to eat shit) -Wearing a two-piece bathing suit at the

pool -Wearing a feminine bathing suit at the pool -Listening to music at

the pool -Listening to music outside

And the holy grail of all infractions:

-Not wearing your reflective belt

I could rant for a few more days about this, but it's really just

background info. The newest big thing to come down from the senior NCO

staff meetings, which I can only imagine look like a council of sith

lords, plotting the destruction of innocent worlds, is the

implementation of mandatory 5-minute 'combat showers'. It is into this

WORLD that I now take you...

So there I was, no shit, enjoying my warm-ish Iraqi shower. I had just

finished shampooing my mustache and was contemplating the wisdom of my

recent Crocs purchase. You see Crocs, though phenomenally ridiculous & a

mere molecule away from the Jellies of the 1980s, actually make

excellent combat shower shoes. They are rather soft, so you don't crack

your heels on the rocks. They are waterproof & drain well, which is good

for obvious reasons. Finally, the sole is quite thick, which is

essential when considering the living petri dish of athlete's foot &

so-called "desert jellyfish" that live on the floors of the showers. As

I stood there, attempting to avoid the ever-present vinyl embrace of the

shower curtain, I couldn't help but notice that it was moving toward me

even more than usual. I nary had time to ponder the strangeness of this

when to my surprise, a pale befreckled hand appeared and began its epic

quest toward my ROZ (Restricted Operating Zone for you non-military

types... Ladies... )

Now you have to understand that these shower stalls are quite confining,

and remind me in many ways, of the tiny cell I lived in, with only a bag

over my head for clothing and a Folgers can for company, in between

beatings and forced labor at SERE school. So naturally, when I saw this

little paw coming through my lower rathole door, I freaked right the

###### out.

Combine this with a tale I had recently heard about one of the hadjis on

base that the girls had all nicknamed "Grab & Go". This nickname is

clever for several reasons. First, in AF terms, a touch & go is when you

do a practice landing and take right back off immediately afterwards.

Grab & Go is the name of the 24-hour dining facility on base where you

can run in, grab food quickly, then bounce. The ladies had named this

enterprising young TCN "Grab & Go" because of his endearing habit of

blitzing into the women's showers, throwing back curtains, and rapidly

groping as much lady flesh as he could before bolting out the door. Now,

I had heard this fine specimen of chivalry had been arrested, but having

just sat through my briefing on the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell, I

had quickly considered the possibility that a copycat Grab & Go of the

"not-funny-haha, funny-queer" persuasion was on the loose & on the hunt

for junks to manhandle.

Naturally assuming that I was about to be the star of my own little

Crying Game, I did the only thing I could think of. I lashed out with a

wicked judy chop toward an area I assumed the offending Limnadians face

would be. I was pleasantly surprised when my

curtain-covered-fist-of-justice made contact with something solid. The

soul on the receiving end of that pimp-slap was not quite so pleased. In

fact, the sound he made can only be described as a mixture of

heart-stopping shock, noticeable surprise, and significant pain, all

muffled by the aforementioned curtain-covered-fist-of-justice (or CCFOJ,

pronounced "cock fudge") that was by now somewhere between his lips and

his tonsils. I wish I could accurately convey that sound to all of you,

but the best I can do is to say that it sort of sounded like:

"GALOOOMPFFFF!!!"

The next few seconds witnessed me quickly shut off the water, tear open

the shower curtain that so recently had been the Robin to my

pervert-stomping Batman, reach for my towel and wrap it quickly around

my waist like a Spartan toga and give this finless brown trout my very

best impersonation of Remo's

"I-just-read-the-short-tour-credit-letter-and-I'm-going-to-punch-babies"

face. So it is with the image of me towering over this little fat dude

in AF PTs, looking and feeling like a slightly less ripped King Leonidas

in 300 (THIS IS... MY SHOWER!!), that I "politely" asked him what the

###### he was doing.

His response was to inform me that I was in violation of the 5-minute

combat shower rule, which he had taken upon himself to enforce by

attempting to turn off the water in my shower (an act I took to be a

grievous airspace violation) and he was going to report me for assault.

My response to all of this would have brought tears to your eyes, peace

to the world, and an end to world hunger. I unfortunately cannot

remember exactly what I said to this wannabe Chief, so this is just a

tribute (with approximately 69 fewer instances of the word "######"):

"Good sir, I shant think you shall reporteth me for assault, for I was

merely defending myself, and as an American fighting man, thou can only

expecteth me to support and defend mine giblets from all enemies,

foreign & domestic. Furthermore, one could argue, friend, that you were

attempting to sexually assaulteth me, and mine fragile psyche may never

recover from such a violation. Also, thou seem to have championed a

cause that is trivial at best, and unwinnable at worst. To put "saved

69,000 gallons of Iraqi water by infringing on sovereign penile

territory" on thine performance report would not only bring shame upon

thee and thine household for generations to come, but would likely

giveth unwashed hippies worldwide yet another reason to defile the noble

intentions of the conflict we find ourselves in. A conflict, that need I

remindeth you, thou hast chosen to fight by groping genitalia instead of

doing something that even remotely contributes to the war effort.

Lasty, and I assure thee that I cannot emphasize this point enough; I AM

A MOTHER######ING PILOT AND I WILL SHOWER FOR AS LONG AS I DAMN WELL

PLEASE! Thou however, are quite clearly a cowardly shoe clerk with a

split lip, a pregnant belly and nothing better to do than harass the

executors of the mission that thou doth 'support'. So if you would do me

the kindness of getting the prompt ###### out of mine face before I

wedgeth my oh-so-comfortable and practical Crocs down your throat & up

thy bung till they doth meet in the middle!"

So it was at the end of this exchange that Sergeant Sausage of the

Shower Patrol scurried away to find another cause to champion. I trust

it will likely be one where he sits in his cubicle for 6-7 hours a day,

4 days a week, with every Thursday off for "training", spending most of

his time complaining about aircrew whilst insisting to all who will hear

that he too is a WARRIOR and without his 'ceaseless' efforts, this

mission would fail.

I meanwhile, got back in the shower and stood there under the running

water for a solid 20 minutes. I even shampooed my mustache again. Just

because I could.

________________________________________________________________

I really can't make this crap up...no pun intended. Be advised:

paperwork after shitting means more than just toilet paper.

______________________________________________________________________

ALCON,

Starting tonight at midnight the stalls in the male latrines will be

marked by Squadron or section. All personnel are only to use the stall

that is designated for their squadron/section.

If you are military and are found in violation of this policy, you will

receive an LOC for the first offense and any subsequent offenses you

will use the port-a-johns outside the compound for the remainder or your

time here.

If a contractor is found in violation of this policy, you will be barred

from using the bathrooms upon the first violation.

A 24-hour grace period will be given so effective at midnight tomorrow

anyone violating this policy is subject to the above mentioned

consequences.

If you find someone in your designated stall that is not in your

squadron/section report it immediately to your Squadron CC, Section Lead

or me and they will be dealt with accordingly.

v/r

Shirt

[BQZip01]

Perfectly said Napoleon! I was told by our Christmas Party planner (who happens to be the SQ exec too) that it is ok for me to fly as much as I am because he will just take on all the other extra duties too to take the heat off of all of us flyers.

If he's humble and honestly trying to help out the bros, then my hat's off to him. If he's just trying to pad his promotion packet, well, so be it.

...is the implementation of mandatory 5-minute 'combat showers'.

Lucky guy...we only got 3 minute showers

ALCON,

Starting tonight at midnight the stalls in the male latrines will be marked by Squadron or section. All personnel are only to use the stall that is designated for their squadron/section.

If you are military and are found in violation of this policy, you will receive an LOC for the first offense and any subsequent offenses you will use the port-a-johns outside the compound for the remainder or your time here.

If a contractor is found in violation of this policy, you will be barred from using the bathrooms upon the first violation.

A 24-hour grace period will be given so effective at midnight tomorrow anyone violating this policy is subject to the above mentioned consequences.

If you find someone in your designated stall that is not in your squadron/section report it immediately to your Squadron CC, Section Lead or me and they will be dealt with accordingly.

v/r

Shirt

YGBFSM!

[StoleIt]

WTF?

Why is that an issue? Fucking shower stalls? How in GODS name does that effect ANYTHING?!