Leadership at the 'Deid

[HerkDerka]

Originally posted by dayswhore@ang.com:

Medical folks have always done thier own thing and seem to be largely immune to the stupidity the rest of the af has to contend with.

Tell that to the med group CC at the Deid who had O-6 plates on his bicycle and a bike helmet complete with desert camo cover and colonel rank.

HD

[Guest dayswhore@ang.com]

TOUCHE'

Nicely done herk. I haven't done the Died, AfGhanny has been my drink of choice.

Let me clarify. When in an REAL combat zone, IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN, most people suspend shoeness. At the Died, it's 24/7, apparently, or so the story goes.

I kneel humbly and chagrined.

DW OUT!

[HerkDerka]

Originally posted by dayswhore@ang.com:

Let me clarify. When in an REAL combat zone, IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN, most people suspend shoeness. At the Died, it's 24/7, apparently, or so the story goes.

Not exactly correct.

It depends on when and where. ORBI and ORBD used to be much better. But they're pretty close to the Deid these days. Same as OAIX. They're still a little better, but not by much. Once the shoeclerks show up in force at a base (inside the box or not) it's over.

HD

[HerkDerka]

Originally posted by C130DrivingMustang:

I find it amazing that his front tire was never found to be "loose" all the time. It is a new AF though.

No bike tire malfunctions, but "Dolly The Love Ewe" managed to take a ride.

HD

[Bishop]

Originally posted by Toro:

[QB]Somebody sent this to me, thought it was pretty funny.

Heres one for you toro your posts inspired me... and now.. ANOTHER GREAT MOMENT IN REFLECTIVE BELT HISTORY!!!

[ 27. November 2006, 12:52: Message edited by: Bishop ]

[HerkDerka]

Fit to Sit.

HD

[brabus]

The new Wing King's policy letters are out at Vance...here's my favorite:

"You must wear reflective belts (or something similar) at night on and off the flightline."

Great, so since I live on base, apparently I need to put on a reflective belt to take my dog out.

[Stiffler]

Oh so you must have had someone hit and killed by a car recently to cause change. ehhh, probably not.

Golf

Alpha

Yankee

[Herk Driver]

Originally posted by brabus:

The new Wing King's policy letters are out at Vance...here's my favorite:

"You must wear reflective belts (or something similar) at night on and off the flightline."

Great, so since I live on base, apparently I need to put on a reflective belt to take my dog out.

Must be a former Ramstein CC. They do that shit over there.

Does it specifically say off-duty as well? If not, read that to mean, at night, on and off the flightline, while on duty.

[brabus]

Ok, I actually read the thing real quick (the quote was just an email highlight)...it does say this only applies on duty. So, guess my scenario above doesn't apply. Either way, reflective belts off the flightline..WTFO?

[Techsan]

So, if its at night and you are walking from your car to the BX (in uniform), you must have your belt on! Way to geek up the AF a little more, sir!

During a recent ORI, our SQ/DO (fast burner looking for a promotion) instructed us to don our disco belts while in the office, DURING the day. I think I actually witnessed a few of the inspectors snikering at us. Needless to say that we all felt like complete tools.

[ 28. November 2006, 12:24: Message edited by: C21Cowboy ]

[Spinner]

Originally posted by brabus:

The new Wing King's policy letters are out at Vance...here's my favorite:

"You must wear reflective belts (or something similar) at night on and off the flightline."

Great, so since I live on base, apparently I need to put on a reflective belt to take my dog out.

It was that way at Keesler before Katrina. A Group CC almost ran someone over who wasn't wearing a belt, so everyone living on base had to wear a reflective belt when they went out at night.

[Vandal]

Wouldn't that call into question his driving SA. There are lights on a car for a reason.

[Guest Rainman A-10]

Originally posted by C21Cowboy:

During a recent ORI, our SQ/DO (fast burner looking for a promotion) instructed us to don our disco belts while in the office, DURING the day.

That made me laugh out loud.

I sit here trying to think what in the world must be going through a person's cranium right before they tell their folks to do something like this. It must be panic, fear or both.

[Stiffler]

Ya no kidding. That is absolutely, utterly, hilarious. And thats why we have to create an environment where someone that makes that kind of decision is absolutely ridiculed and will never make that kind of a decision again.

IMHO;)

[HerkDerka]

Originally posted by Rainman A-10:

It must be panic, fear or both.

Both.

Fear the brass will see past his window dressing bullshit and see that he's a fraud.

Panic that he won't be able to get his people in line while the brass is watching him.

If I were in charge of this guy and saw this, I would remove him on the spot. Stupid shit like this should tell you something about the person.

HD

[Guest Clemsonpilot]

The CE Nazis are at it again telling me to take down my Christmas lights...

[brabus]

Wait, we can't put up christmas lights on base? Those fvckers.

[Guest why]

it does my heart good to know I only have to deal with the madness for 3 more years... Im seeing more and more good people bail via the FSB or VSP.. At least the shoe clerks havent got me yet.

Although I did have a shirt yell at me once for not having a spotter when I backed the truck up. I said GREAT thank goodness you came along, you are now my spotter. What could he say at that point? No?

[Guest raf eng]

just to add another twist to the "reflective belt" saga

myself and 5 other brit aircrew walk into incilik from the strip at 4am local time. the yank guard runs up to us with a dog in tow and she screams at us "wot the **** r u doing i'm gonna have all u're ass's" at which point we flash our ID's and stumble on by this point she shrinks back into her cage trying to aplogise as the alsatian nips at her ankle pissed of at being dragged from it's bed

the morale of this story

you can take 2 paths

either

"america **** yeah world police"

or

lighten up and have a drink and face it rationly

[Stiffler]

Ya the old midnight curfew. You brits definately know how to make the AF fun, we need to take a lesson from ya.

[JVBFLY]

So I just spent some time in the 'Died, and I never once wore a reflective thing. This was a personal battle, and one that was won. The entire crew made it safely through with no belts. Ok, now for the whole truth. There are no reflective belt police on the flight line. I guess none of them have access. But we still all made it safely. Yes, we merely walked off one airplane and onto the next. But still, WE WON! Less than two hours total time, but no BELT!!

[Vandal]

Small victories lead to larger battles won.

[HerkDerka]

Next time, try wearing cargo pants and a knit shirt. Five buck says no one messes with you if you look like a contractor.

HD

[M2]

Originally posted by HerkDerka:

Next time, try wearing cargo pants and a knit shirt. Five buck says no one messes with you if you look like a contractor.

HD

That's the ticket!

Cheers! M2 (now a contractor)