WTF? (**NSFW**)

[Lord Ratner]

1 hour ago, Guardian said:

I’m curious what everyone thinks when Kyle is convicted? Regardless of the total lack of a case the prosecution made. Where does it go from there?

The same place it went after Chauvin. These cases are not the cause, they are the symptom. The disease is manifesting everywhere, with Virginia being the most clear infection. I wasn't sure if the disease had gotten bad enough to trigger a strong enough response, but it seems like the progressives are doubling down, so maybe there's hope?

[arg]

1 hour ago, Smokin said:

Unfortunately, if he is found not guilty, the far left is going to argue the same thing.  MSNBC and Biden said he was racist murder, so he must be found guilty or the city will burn.

The city doesn't have to burn. If a few hundred Kyles showed up to protect it we would see which side the .gov is on. Sad thing is the riot that started this was perpetuated by leftist media lies. And leftist media lies are going to cause more riots after the verdict. 

[Guardian]

But the lib tards are all set to fry the one that stopped their riot.

[Lowspeedhidrag]

3 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

The same place it went after Chauvin. These cases are not the cause, they are the symptom. The disease is manifesting everywhere, with Virginia being the most clear infection. I wasn't sure if the disease had gotten bad enough to trigger a strong enough response, but it seems like the progressives are doubling down, so maybe there's hope?

Definitely hopeful....looks like the woketarded shitlibs are losings their appeal........silver lining for sure...wonder if some ' courageous woketards' on this forum will tell us all how wokery and diversity and 'peaceful but firey protests' will 'save democracy'.....

[Lord Ratner]

7 hours ago, Lowspeedhidrag said:

Definitely hopeful....looks like the woketarded shitlibs are losings their appeal........silver lining for sure...wonder if some ' courageous woketards' on this forum will tell us all how wokery and diversity and 'peaceful but firey protests' will 'save democracy'.....

Don't call them that, please. I know what you are trying to convey, but this war is going to be won through a split in the Democratic party, where the more temperate liberals cast out the progressive/socialist/Marxist radicals. 

 

That split is going to take *a lot* of dialog between conservatives and liberals. "Woketarded shitlibs" does nothing but shut off the listening part of the brain for anyone who remotely identifies as liberal. 

 

It's a free country, so do what you want, but realize you are exacerbating the problem and empowering actual "Woketarded shitlibs" by using childish language that they will use to keep the rational liberals on their team.

[brabus]

So much what lord rather said. I’m fairly in tune to local politics, and it is very promising to see how many liberals (not far left progressives, there’s a difference) are starting to finally wake up to this bullshit going too far. I’ve talked to several who self-described as progressive, but now they’re saying they can’t do it anymore. Those liberals won’t necessarily get on board with all the conservative polices you like, but they will have a conversation and are more open minded than given credit…just as the same applies to conservatives who are closer to the middle/lean in the libertarian direction. Locally, I’ve determined the GOP are all old people who staunchly cling to their viewpoints/fuck everyone else just as much as the progressive nut jobs…there’s no fundamentally big pic difference in the two groups as far as I’m concerned. 

Invite the other side of the middle fence to respectful conversation, bet you find out they’re actually pretty reasonable and good people. And hopefully they will find the same about you if they give honest conversation a chance. 

Edited November 19, 2021 by brabus

[arg]

https://babylonbee.com/news/doh-here-are-8-critical-errors-made-by-the-rittenhouse-prosecutors

[ClearedHot]

Not Guilty on all counts.  I guess you can defend yourself when someone is beating you in the head with a skateboard.

 

[SocialD]

Now I hope he sues the shit out of the major "news" networks.  

Edited November 19, 2021 by SocialD

[bfargin]

46 minutes ago, SocialD said:

Now I hope he sues the shit out of the major "news" networks.  

I think Joe and Kamaltoe called him a "white supremacist" as well. I'd sue them too.

[HeloDude]

The left is doubling down on that Kyle is still a murderer and a white supremacist…shocker.

[JimNtexas]

Fully expect the Justice Department to bring civil rights violation charges against Kyle Rittenhouse in order to get a second bite at the Apple.

[arg]

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[tac airlifter]

I don’t understand how anyone with an ounce of fairness could oppose this verdict.  Justifiable self-defense has rarely been this easy or clean to determine.

[Lord Ratner]

3 minutes ago, tac airlifter said:

I don’t understand how anyone with an ounce of fairness could oppose this verdict.  Justifiable self-defense has rarely been this easy or clean to determine.

I've tried answering that question for a long time. Since the Kavanaugh hearings. The voters' mindset I get, they just believed the lie they were told. But the people in that picture know they are lying. Why?

 

I think it's because this has become the religion of the progressives. The dogma of power hierarchies and systemic oppression (that old friend, Marx), the original sin of slavery, and the requirement that you proclaim your faith despite what your lying eyes see. There are hymns (SJW vocabulary like antiracism, unconscious bias, systemic racism, white rage, whiteness, privilege), prophets and priests (Ta- Nehisi Coates, Ibram Kendi, Robin DiAngelo), tithing (political campaign donations), confession... The list goes on. And just how the Catholic Church reacted horribly to the enlightenment, and nearly every scientific discovery that even remotely challenged the church's narrative, the progressives *hate* anything that threatens the "perfect word" of their God: the evil and racist nature of the American system, in which there is no justice for the oppressed.

 

That's why they hated Rittenhouse so much, and it's especially why they hated the Darren Wilson case so much, and why they completely ignored the Eric DeValkenaere case. The first case attacks the purity of the cause. If Kyle was justified, then that night in Kenosha really was a riot, not "mostly peaceful protesting" for black rights. The second case reminds us that cops are more likely to be killed by black people than black people are likely to be killed by cops. There are very few actual cases of cops killing unarmed black people on which to build this vision of wide-spread sport-hunting by the police of minorities; Michael Brown was a martyr turned villain. And the last case proves that there is infact justice for minorities in America.

 

Once you accept that the people driving the progressive movement know the narrative they are promoting is false, it becomes a lot easier to predict the behavior. The things you focus on and ignore when protecting a lie are different than when protecting the truth. Gaslighting, straw men, ad hominem attacks, appeals to authority, false equivalency... All tactics to distract from a weak position.

 

They have committed to the fundamental notion that America is broken and needs to be radically changed. Build back better, right? They want the "new America" but lack the justification, considering the wild success of the American experiment for *all* citizens. So they are just making it up.

 

Now that they are committed, and their power is tied to that cause, what choice do they have?

[di1630]

I find reading the leftist raw data give me insight. You really have to ignore reality to be on that side of things.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/black-lives-matter-statement-on-kyle-rittenhouse-verdict/

[Lord Ratner]

33 minutes ago, di1630 said:

I find reading the leftist raw data give me insight. You really have to ignore reality to be on that side of things.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/black-lives-matter-statement-on-kyle-rittenhouse-verdict/

They (the political/activist class) are not ignoring reality, they are attempting to redefine it. It's the well-meaning liberals who fall for the lie who are ignoring reality. For now.

[kaputt]

These people aren’t even good at hiding their lies if you have half a brain and pay attention. 
 

One of the BLM co-founders, Patrisse Cullors, lives in Topanga Canyon in LA, an area that is 90% white and is all multi million dollar homes. 
 

Clearly systemic racism at work there🙄 

[Alpharatz]

Let's say you are a patrolman and some rigged up dude comes running down the street in a riot..pointing and aiming and just shot someone...do you shoot the dude who ..by God.. looks like a kid?    Your decision time is already up...

[Guardian]

Is that an attempt at a comparison? Your example didn’t happen in the Rittenhouse case.

He wasn’t pointing and aiming. And he did pass a lot of people without aiming, pointing, or shooting anyone after being attacked by the dude who was threatening him all night, trying to grab his weapon, chasing him who according to a Jury was breaking the law and got killed justifiably. Not too active shooter of him.

A kid who was and had been supporting his community and the opposition just tried to manipulate a narrative against him to get a political win. What’s one good person’s life right when compared to 4 people who had committed over 40 crimes between them to include 6 time rapist and abuser of little kids.

So what was your comparison again? You going to the race card next?

[Buddy Spike]

9 hours ago, Alpharatz said:

Let's say you are a patrolman and some rigged up dude comes running down the street in a riot..pointing and aiming and just shot someone...do you shoot the dude who ..by God.. looks like a kid?    Your decision time is already up...

Is he responding to loud verbal commands? What's the temperature/dew point?  What's the weather at my alternates?

[lloyd christmas]

13 hours ago, kaputt said:

These people aren’t even good at hiding their lies if you have half a brain and pay attention. 

Here’s the thing for me.  They aren’t even trying to hide the lies anymore. Not at all.  The examples are piling up.  Kavanaugh, Russian collusion, all the COVID hypocrisy, Jussie Smollet, NASCAR nooses, Covington kids, hands up don’t shoot, etc.  This one is one of the most egregious though.  Starting with Jacob Blake, the riots and ending with Rittenhouse.  I can’t understand, I mean I literally can’t understand, how or why any average American is falling for this stuff regardless of political leaning.  It’s simple truth and facts vs blatantly obvious lies.  And they double down on it over and over again   

This is how we got Trump, Jan 6th, the recent Virginia election results and what will be complete destruction of Democrat power in 2022.  The pendulum is going to swing hard right in 2022.  As it should.  The left has hopefully had their moment and hopefully we survive it.  

[Alpharatz]

8 hours ago, Buddy Spike said:

Is he responding to loud verbal commands? What's the temperature/dew point?  What's the weather at my alternates?

Ya took too long there Spike Buddy...the kid ran past and just shot another dude...what are your thoughts..ya only got a few seconds if that...Did he shoot in self defense?  Was the second victim trying to defend himself ?  In any case ya REALLY got to hurry up 'cause the kid just blew the bicep off ANOTHER victim...was it self defense?  By who?  quick now...Jeeze Spike Buddy...You got THREE victims and still haven't made a decision...A jury of 12 of your peers may be analyzing YOUR action..or lack of ..soon enough..

[Alpharatz]

18 hours ago, Guardian said:

Is that an attempt at a comparison? Your example didn’t happen in the Rittenhouse case.

He wasn’t pointing and aiming. And he did pass a lot of people without aiming, pointing, or shooting anyone after being attacked by the dude who was threatening him all night, trying to grab his weapon, chasing him who according to a Jury was breaking the law and got killed justifiably. Not too active shooter of him.

A kid who was and had been supporting his community and the opposition just tried to manipulate a narrative against him to get a political win. What’s one good person’s life right when compared to 4 people who had committed over 40 crimes between them to include 6 time rapist and abuser of little kids.

So what was your comparison again? You going to the race card next?
 

Pretty cool....a great analysis if you had a half hour to sort it out....

[Buddy Spike]

6 minutes ago, Alpharatz said:

Ya took too long there Spike Buddy...the kid ran past and just shot another dude...what are your thoughts..ya only got a few seconds if that...Did he shoot in self defense?  Was the second victim trying to defend himself ?  In any case ya REALLY got to hurry up 'cause the kid just blew the bicep off ANOTHER victim...was it self defense?  By who?  quick now...Jeeze Spike Buddy...You got THREE victims and still haven't made a decision...A jury of 12 of your peers may be analyzing YOUR action..or lack of ..soon enough..

Tell me you don't know anything about this case or law enforcement without telling me you don't know anything about this case or law enforcement.

For starters, as pointed out, he did not point or aim his weapon at anyone other than the people he shot.

Second, as a cop, I'm not shooting the kid unless he threatens me or someone else with the weapon.  It starts with loud verbal commands and escalates from there.  It is not my job to judge whether he shot in self defense or not.  Unless he's an active shooter (he was not), or threatening me or someone else (also not), there is no justification to use deadly force against him.

Your take is bad and you should feel bad.