Prozac Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Interesting factoid: The sound you hear from his pocket watch during the film is recorded from Lincoln's actual pocket watch from his presidential library. I really wonder if that movie would have affected the Presidential election with the Democrats painted as a bunch of racist, slave holding jerks and the Republicans as the great hope for black people. Please don't assume this sentence is a Democrat bat signal to start another political jihad in a good thread (@nsplayr). The political parties of the time were far different from the parties of today.
GearDownNoGreen Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 The political parties of the time were far different from the parties of today. The hats of the time were far different from the hats of today. 3
Vertigo Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 I'm not a big fan of Lincoln (the man, not the movie) myself. Suspending Habeus Corpus, imprisoning those that spoke out against him, freeing the slaves in the South while still allowing some Northern states to carry on, extensive land grants to the railroads, placing judges on house arrest when they ruled against him, etc. He wasn't the saint Hollywood makes him out to be. 1
disgruntledemployee Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 I'm not a big fan of Lincoln (the man, not the movie) myself. Suspending Habeus Corpus, imprisoning those that spoke out against him, freeing the slaves in the South while still allowing some Northern states to carry on, extensive land grants to the railroads, placing judges on house arrest when they ruled against him, etc. He wasn't the saint Hollywood makes him out to be. Back at cha' Out
Guest Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Some people are really good at evaluating the work and behaviors of others and finding their faults, imperfections and mistakes. They can't help themselves. At least it seem like they can't control it. It's just a gift for the rest of the world to enjoy. Like the energy from the sun.
SocialD Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 He wasn't the saint Hollywood makes him out to be. Like so many other "heros" we learn about in the history books... Christopher Columbus comes to mind. We don't want to know about all the bad things they did, just the good!
17D_guy Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Like so many other "heros" we learn about in the history books... Christopher Columbus comes to mind. We don't want to know about all the bad things they did, just the good! Shocking that our heroes are human. I guess we should ignore the great things they did and just focus on the bad. As Blade would say, "Some mother######er's always trying to ice skate up hill."
Vertigo Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Back at cha' Out Not being a fan ≠ hatred. I acknowledge his overall impact on civil liberties, I just don't follow along with the hype of him being a saint. 1
SocialD Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Shocking that our heroes are human. I guess we should ignore the great things they did and just focus on the bad. Have you ever read up on some of the shit Columbus did? It's not like this guy was a drunk, or some other minor fault. I don't know any humans who would do some of the shit he pulled. I never said we should ignore the good things they did, but we sure as hell shouldn't ignore the shitty things they did.
Prozac Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Lots of influential people did a lot of shitty things throughout history. You have to look at these things in the context of their time, not ours. Problem solved. Now, can we get back to movies? Rented 'Avengers' last night (I think I was one of the three people in the country who didn't see it in the theater) and was surprisingly entertained. Even the wife stayed interested. Also bought 'The Lorax' for the kids. I'm not usually the kind of person who will criticize a kids movie or show for being overtly filled with rhetoric, and while the movie was cute, I have to say that I take issue with it's message that chopping down a tree is a mortal sin. Send the message that you have to manage resources carefully: ok. Send the message that they are untouchable: not so much.
Guest Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Not being a fan ≠ hatred. I acknowledge his overall impact on civil liberties, I just don't follow along with the hype of him being a saint. You just don't like him because he was gay. Admit it.
17D_guy Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Have you ever read up on some of the shit Columbus did? It's not like this guy was a drunk, or some other minor fault. I don't know any humans who would do some of the shit he pulled. I never said we should ignore the good things they did, but we sure as hell shouldn't ignore the shitty things they did. I have done a bit of research into it. Sounds like Columbus was cut from the same cloth as some of the people who dealt with Native Americans in other places, or the aborigines in Australia, or.. you know.. slave owners, like all those Founding Fathers.
Vertigo Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) You just don't like him because he was gay. Admit it. Nah... more because he was an emo hipster. Edited November 26, 2012 by Vertigo 1
Marco Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Mother######er could kill vampires like it was nobody's business though.......wait, wrong movie....
PK... Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 Hmmm... Potential to be good... but we shall see. --- PK...
M2 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 OK, it's from 2008; but if you haven't seen Hank & Mike then you're missing one of the funniest low-budget comedies of recent years... Meet Hank and Mike, two blue-collar Easter Bunnies who get fired and try their hand at an assortment of odd jobs, failing at each. Fighting depression, debt and eventually each other, these two longtime pals set out on a mission to recapture their jobs, get the girl and settle the score. Cheers! M2
disgruntledemployee Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Movie sub-plot: The Lone Ranger is secretly fighting werewolves.
Jughead Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) Movie sub-plot: The Lone Ranger is secretly fighting werewolves. Dude... no "SPOILER ALERT"??? Foul!! Now you've ruined it for me.... Edited December 12, 2012 by Jughead
BlackKnight Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Another potential "must-see".. Wtf? Are they just going to keep re-releasing Superman and Spider Man? Although this one looks like it has potential to be the best Superman, we'll see.
HercDude Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 I think we're due for either an Aquaman movie or a Daredevil reboot.
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