BQZip01 Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 19 pushups in two min and a 17:30 mile and a half? For a cop? YGBSM. We are doomed.
Hacker Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 Reflective of the big problems that can result from privatization/outsourcing of military functions.
Toro Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 Time to put active duty SF troops at the gate and show these guys the door. Huh? If we had the manpower to do that, do you think this would be an issue?
Guest Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 Why aren't those guys wearing reflective belts? That would solve it. Obviously.
BQZip01 Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 Why aren't those guys wearing reflective belts? That would solve it. Obviously. Perhaps they should wear an A-2 jacket so they feel like more of the team!
herkbum Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Why aren't those guys wearing reflective belts? That would solve it. Obviously. Do you need reflective belts on something as big as a wall? Edited November 18, 2012 by herkbum
Dead Last Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 Huh? If we had the manpower to do that, do you think this would be an issue? They've already been shown the door here at FOB Cannon
polcat Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) They currently are here @ Andrews. Including the main gate where they wear blues, white gloves, white laces on their boots, & ascots. I rarely see the rent a cops @ the gate. You aren't serious, are you? Yup, you are: https://www.andrews.a...sp?id=123298707 Not much different than this: https://www.saceliteguard.com/images/Light%20blue%20shirt%20with%20stars%20on%20scarf.jpg But not as cool as this: https://www.saceliteguard.com/images/Short%20sleeved%20blue%20shirt.jpg Edited November 18, 2012 by polcat 1
RescueRandy Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 Man! I didn't realize checking IDs was such an honor. All that work in UPT/IQT for nothing!
SurelySerious Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 When Your Boss Makes You Pay For Being Fat Apparently the AF isn't alone in the waistline obsession. At least they're not trying to make it a "fitness" thing; purely economics.
itsokimapilot Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 Another good read from the John Q. Public blog. https://www.jqpublic-blog.com/?p=325 1
17D_guy Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 Another good read from the John Q. Public blog. https://www.jqpublic-blog.com/?p=325 Great reads, never been disappointed by this guys writing. Thanks for posting. Moreover, if fitness were truly the goal, airmen would be given time during the duty day to work out, and commanders would be mandated to provide resources to help unfit airmen improve before professional consequences could be imparted. THIS.
ThreeHoler Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 THIS. I know it is only my part of the microcosm but all my Os and Es know they can take 90 min 3x a week. All I ask of them is they tell me that is why they are arriving late, leaving early, or taking a long lunch. If they take 90 min every day...good on them, and I have always held that personal workout time = duty since the reg requires fitness as part of your duties. Every CC I've had supported a similar policy. If your boss can't give you the time, they are a douche. 1
Everybody Knows Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 Another good read from the John Q. Public blog. https://www.jqpublic-blog.com/?p=325 Thanks for the link. That guy seriously has a grasp on things. ......and queue up the skinny crowd with their "I like evaluating other dude's physiques and want them looking tight like a tiger in thier non-tiger uniforms" .......3......2.......1
17D_guy Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 I know it is only my part of the microcosm but all my Os and Es know they can take 90 min 3x a week. All I ask of them is they tell me that is why they are arriving late, leaving early, or taking a long lunch. If they take 90 min every day...good on them, and I have always held that personal workout time = duty since the reg requires fitness as part of your duties. Every CC I've had supported a similar policy. If your boss can't give you the time, they are a douche. Yes they are. Had one tell me they weren't required to do it by reg anymore so they cancelled Sq PT (which sucked) and disallowed duty time for it (outside lunch).
HU&W Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 Gender neutral and age neutral pt test. Run a mile and a half. Calculate your vo2 max from your run time. Multiply by your height and divide by your waist size. Voila, pt score. https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/03/19/gender-neutral-fitness-test-for-all-air-force-considering-running-based-formula/
ThreeHoler Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 Guy is a ing quack. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app 2
pawnman Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 6 hours ago, HU&W said: Gender neutral and age neutral pt test. Run a mile and a half. Calculate your vo2 max from your run time. Multiply by your height and divide by your waist size. Voila, pt score. https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/03/19/gender-neutral-fitness-test-for-all-air-force-considering-running-based-formula/ I'm sold. Using his formula, my 12:30 run is worth over 100 points.
gearhog Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 6 hours ago, ThreeHoler said: Guy is a ing quack. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app You make some great points.
mb1685 Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) That method is also age-neutral, which seems strange. The older folks who are good runners would probably still be penalized since it’s almost inevitable that waist circumference will increase. So a 40-year-old is going to have to run faster than a 20-year-old of the same height and smaller waist to get the same score. I did some quick number crunching though and it seems like it doesn’t take an amazing run time to get a high score (compared to the current PT standards for younger age brackets), so I guess that’s the flip side. There would probably be (even more of) an expectation for young people to crush it. Edited March 20, 2019 by mb1685
Duck Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 This cat has made so much money recreating the wheel it’s not even funny anymore. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app
FLEA Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 Oh man I want to rant and rave so badly about the PT test but I think about about the 9 or 10 year point you just lose the will for it anymore. The AF is not serious about building healthier airmen. What's the point in trying to get them to realize how to make it better. 1
FUSEPLUG Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 Quote ...Neil Baumgartner, chief of the Air Force’s exercise science unit Where's that form I fill out to help the AF save money? 1
Tank Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) USAF PFT should not be that complicated. Push-ups Sit-ups (or timed plank) 1.5 mile run Get rid of the waist measurement! Edited March 20, 2019 by Tank 1
FLEA Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 Here is the dude who apparently drives all this. Going to actually watch this later.
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