Classic Thread - Security Forces (SFS) Tales

[mmkk111]

You want to hear something funny...

I was working on the flight line one day at Offutt guarding the E-4. From those guard shacks you can see across the way over to where the E-6's park for their alerts. Well, this one guy (who was the dumbest cop I'd ever met in my SF career) was working the E-6's that day. The one he was working was getting ready to taxi out for the day and normally we get in our little truck and drive out of the way as it taxi's out. For whatever reason, he was on the other side of the plane and tried to make it to the truck as the plane left the chocks. Well as they pushed up the throttles, I'm watching in disbelief as this retard gets thrown about 15-20 feet (I'm exaggerating a little, but it makes the story better!) from the jet wash. He didn't fly through the air, he got knocked down and then rolled for a while, but his beret and M-16 went flying....all the way to the blast shield. He never lived that one down! How the marshaller didn't see him and stop the plane, I don't know, but that was some funny shizzle!

MK

[ 18. September 2005, 15:47: Message edited by: mmkk111 ]

[Guest rare21]

Today: NAS Oceana Air show

I see a TH-57 static display (which i flew in advanced training).

No one except air show viewers are around it so i put my daughter in the co pilot's seat.

A Navy cop comes up and says that i'm not supposed to be in there and asks if i'm aircrew for the helo.

I (respecting that i made a mistake) say "Sorry about that, I used to fly these."

Cop: "Yeah, Right." (you know since short hispanics can only swab decks not fly aircraft..geez)

Me: "Yeah, Right?" I pull out my ID.

"So do you want to continue this somewhere else PETTY Officer?"

Cop: "oh, ah, no sir we're just not allowed to let folks in the aircraft unless the aircrew is there."

Me: "Well you know what would be a good idea? Put a damn sign or rope it off...instead of being a smart ass." and i walked away.

[ 18. September 2005, 16:25: Message edited by: rare21 ]

[Guest Rainman A-10]

Originally posted by rare21:

Cop: "Yeah, Right." (you know since short hispanics can only swab decks not fly aircraft..geez)

What a racist. I hope you reproted his racist, insubordinate, enlisted ass to the JAG and the Commander.

I was wandering around the flightline in my civilian clothes letting my kids crawl all over the jets and the cops tried to profile me, too. Almost the exact same scenario. In fact, everytime someone points out the regs to me I know they are only doing it because I'm a big blue eyed Scandinavian-American.

BTW...I love to give them the purple mushroom with my rank, too. I make a big show of writing down their name and I always ask where their commander is right that moment.

Glad to see I'm not alone. You and me, we'll teach those lousy cops a lesson or two about racial profiling out on the flightline.

[FreudianSlip]

My turn My turn...

So I'm having a serious kidney stone attack and I drive myself onto base which was only about 10 minutes away, park in the the emergency room parking lot (note, I parked in a parking lot, not on a curb or any place unsual) and crawl my way to the emergency room. Well after a big dose of Demerol (sp?) I'm pretty much drooling on myself so I have to call a friend to drive me home.

The next morning when when I get a ride in to pick up my car I pull up just as some SP is writing me a parking ticket. I ask why am I getting a parking ticket in a parking lot and was told that this is not an over night lot. I tell him my story as he's getting into his car and he say's to take it up with the cops at the SP shack and flys off. So I drive over there, now realize, I'm still in pain because I haven't passed the kidney stone and a little pissy right then because I just got blown off, but I start talking with the cops over at their office. I first ask why I would get a ticket for parking in the emergency room parking lot? They respond, "well we can't have people parking there long term, it's only for emergencies." So I figure just explain it and off I go. I tell them I parked there and couldn't drive home. Then the head SP dude tells me that I should have had the person who picked me up, move my car to another lot then drive me home. My response was a very loud, "You're telling me, that while I was so doped up on demerol that I was incapable of driving myself anywhere, AND drooling on myself, that I should of had the mindset to ask my friend to first move my car from the emergency room parking lot because I shouldn't have parked there?" Before he can respond I then tell him, "My commander will be calling your commander in about 10 minutes, you better warn him about this because YOU will be paying for this." (and when I say 'paying' I didn't mean in the monetary sense) The two guys I was dealing with look at each other then ask for the ticket back and tell me not to worry about it. My response, "Good idea," and I walk out.

At least the idiot chain was finally broken.

Oh and yeah, I've gotten a ticket at 0200 in the morning for going 4 over the limit after a long flight. But thats another story.....

[Toro]

Alrighty then, to get this back on topic (well , not really since it originally started out about speeding tickets)

Anybody remember this one?

Why SFS Cops are brainless and dangerous

Chapter 5: Never leave your car parked next to a SFS cop with keys and a car

Original story is that he was getting a hand-job and crashed into the jet. Revised story is that he was talking on a cell phone and just not paying attention.

A load that should have been swallowed, he is.

[Guest Jollygreen]

Though I have enjoyed the reads here. Basic question still applies. Where you speeding? Yes or no? If the answer is yes, then so be it. It's not the end of the world or anything. No one really cares. You will do fine. Just don't make a habit of it.

On a side note, to no one in particular, knock of the SFS bashing. If anyone thinks the cop's life is all roses, then go sit at a gate for 8 hours. Better yet, go run 6 months of convoy escort in Iraq and then come back and tell us all how great life is. Judas Priest.

[Ryder1587]

I think most of the MPs bring it on themselves. They're not required to be assholes just because they have a history of being ones. Personally, haven't had much contact with any of them but the one thing I do remember about them was a private MP that come up to the commissary when I worked up there and said he was waiting on his "date" to get off, and it turned out to be like a 40 year old lady that was not the best looking, to say the least. Gave me a laugh for the day.

[Rocker]

"Before criticizing someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away, and you have their shoes."

Good point about the grunts doing what they're told, that's true - but it's the ones who go a step further on their own to ascert their "power" who tend to paint the picture for the rest of Security Forces. I really never complained about having to pee six times for them within a few months; they were just doing their job. But a 19 year-old kid with a badge, guns, and a radio having the ability to hold authority over a major (for instance) would be a tough thing for even the most intelligent teenagers to manage maturely. And add in the production of their environment, status among other jobs and their schedules, and it's not hard to see how they might become a little disgruntled and tangled up in their own condition. Still, no excuses.

That said, getting pulled over for driving too slowly to show your wife around is right out.

[M2]

Originally posted by Jollygreen:

Though I have enjoyed the reads here. Basic question still applies. Where you speeding? Yes or no? If the answer is yes, then so be it. It's not the end of the world or anything. No one really cares. You will do fine. Just don't make a habit of it.

On a side note, to no one in particular, knock of the SFS bashing. If anyone thinks the cop's life is all roses, then go sit at a gate for 8 hours. Better yet, go run 6 months of convoy escort in Iraq and then come back and tell us all how great life is. Judas Priest.

Jolly

I've done it, and I did it without being an asshole. That’s all we are talking about. True, it doesn't matter what AFSC we are talking about, there will be jerks in it; it is just that there seems to be a disproportional amount of assholes in SP (I don’t use the term ‘SF,’ it has an entirely different connotation to me and our sky cops don’t qualify).

I have never lied about speeding…I may try and tactfully talk my way out of a ticket, but I never claim I was going slower than I know I was. However, getting pulled for going too slow or some other BS is just that…BS! Most of these guys are bored out of their mind and looking for ways to **** with people. If they want to do that, then they need my job…

Cheers! M2

[Guest Rainman A-10]

Originally posted by Jollygreen:

On a side note, to no one in particular, knock of the SFS bashing. If anyone thinks the cop's life is all roses, then go sit at a gate for 8 hours. Better yet, go run 6 months of convoy escort in Iraq and then come back and tell us all how great life is. Judas Priest.

That's what I was trying to say but it was lost in the sarcasm. Thanks Jolly.

I have been jacked up by the standard 18 year old with a loaded M-16, safety off, finger on the trigger, emphasis on shaking sky cop for breaking red on the flightline by accident...my bad for missing the faded, but visible, red line that was painted the next day after I pointed it out. I have also been written up for 6-9 moving violations in a parking lot on base...the ticket was thrown out after I talked to the base commander and the guy's flight commander the next monday morning -- because my own squadron commander told me to. I have been down to the cop shop to get one of my guys out of trouble when the cops had hauled him in for DWI even though he had not had a single thing to drink but he was being kind of rude at the front gate at 0100 31 Dec (the annual front gate SUPER MEZ). I have had my ID card taken from me twice after returning from combat deployments to OEF anf OIF where I was instructed to remove the micro-chip with a hole puncher...I got my ID back the next day when the wing commander explained to the cops that I had just returned from flying combat missions and I was TDY to the base to provide Targeting Pod training to his deploying pilots. Whatever.

I have also been out on patrol on ATVs at night wearing goggles with a few of the 19 cops TOTAL we had to protect and defend the entire flightline/runway, bomb dump and Air Force compound at Bagram before there were fences around the perimeter of the base or HESCO barriers around AF Village. Those 19 guys worked their asses off 24/7.

Those young kids are normally under a microscope and they are not given much, if any, leeway to "interpret" the rules. The interpretation is left to the NCOs and Officers and they damn well know it. We like to give them sh!t when we screw up and they decide to jack us up but most of the time they are doing the invisible and totally unappreciated job of covering our six.

FWIW.

[ClearedHot]

Toro - Here is Chapter six for you;

Not my best behavior, but at one time I did enjoy poking the skycops in the eye.

As a young maintenance officer I had multiple run-in’s with a very over-zealous TSgt type skycop. The first event happened one day at lunch when I pulled out of the base gas station and onto the main drag at Charleston AFB. It was hot and I took a long pull on my bottle of IBC rootbeer. The skycop who was himself speeding the opposite direction saw the dark colored bottle and decided it was a matter of national security so he hit the lights and did a power slide 180 in front of all the other cars to race back and get me. He obviously called for back up because two other skycop cars joined him and they are out of the car with weapons before he even got his fat butt out of the car. I know what is going on and decide to play it up a little. He walks up to my window barking orders to keep my hands where he can see them and the rest goes something like this;

Skycop Jackass – “Who do you think you are , drinking and driving on my base”.

Young 2Lt – “Why whatever are you talking about (while pretending to push my bottle of rootbeer to my side.

Skycop Jackass –“Sirrr (with as much disgust as he can muster), I saw you drinking and while driving I am taking you in”

Young 2Lt – “Since when is a crime to drink and drive?”

Skycop Jackass– “(Temper causing his face to get red), No more "Sir", just “Step out of the car and place your hands behind your back”

Young 2Lt – “Sgt you are making a mistake and I would appreciate it if you call me “sir”

Skycop Jackass – (skull now shooting blood out the top), grabs my arm and orders me out of the truck. Starts to read me my rights and tells one of the other officers to “get the beer out of the truck”.

Young 2Lt – (biting cheek so I don’t laugh out loud), “Sarrrggee, you’ve made a huge mistake I was not drinking and driving with beer”.

Skycop # 2 – “Umm Sgt so and so, we have a problem”

Skycop Jackass – “What the @#$* are you talking about?"

Skycop #2 - (very sheepishly), “Sgt it is a bottle of rootbeer.”

Skycop Jackass - “YOU GOTTA BE SHITTING ME, give me the damn bottle””

Young 2Lt – “I tried to tell you sarrrrggee, by the way can I have your name please”

Skycop Jackass – “mumble mumble mumble”

[ClearedHot]

Chapter Seven

Skycop Jackass has been waging a war against me ever since the “rootbeer incident”. On several occasions he would follow me out of the parking lot all the way to the front gate. After few months I was lucky enough to take over an AMU and ended up spending a lot of time on the flightline.

Our main building was undergoing renovation and we moved into a small trailer right next to the flight line. The only problem was there was no parking nearby so the SQ/CC got us permission to park our Govt vehicles right next to the red line so we could get to our aircraft in a timely manner. Skycop Jackass took exception to this and tried in vain to have us park ½ mile away, I guess the only Govt vehicles he wanted on the flight were the ones he slept in when he was on “patrol”.

I thought things had finally settled down because we had not heard from Skycop Jackass in nearly two weeks when one of my guys called and said “you have go to see this”. I guess Skycop Jackass was afraid we were to close to the redline and he took it upon himself to get a jackhammer and drill holes in the tarmac every 25’, then put a three foot pole to string a red piece of nylon rope marking the redline. He also used this modification as an opportunity to close the entry point closest to our building so we would have to drive to the other end of the flightline if we wanted access. I walked outside and watched his clown act and just could not believe it had come to this, “whatever” I thought and went back to work. About an hour later a crew was taxiing out for a local pro trainer when I got a call that they had just shelled an engine, were shutting down, and doing an emergency ground egress. I ran outside and it the aircraft was stopped right in front of our trailer. Long story short, the engine guys found chucks of asphalt in the engine. I put two and two together and started looking where Skycop Jackass had “drilled” the flightline and there was stuff everywhere. He had drilled perhaps 30+ holes and decided to leave all the debris laying right there on the flightline. We took pictures and I had my guys gather the crap and put it into a box that weighed nearly 20 pounds. Within an hour the AGS/CC invited the SFS/CC to come see what happened.

I never saw Skycop Jackass on the flightline again.

[Guest rumblefish_2]

My brother's an SF dude and just got back from Iraq with a Purple Heart. He was augmenting an army unit and got hit by an IED while on a patrol in Kirkuk. That being said, I have run into a couple of jackasses in the SF community, especially those rent-a-cops. I would agree there are dudes at both ends of the spectrum...

[ClearedHot]

Originally posted by rumblefish_2:

My brother's an SF dude and just got back from Iraq with a Purple Heart. He was augmenting an army unit and got hit by an IED while on a patrol in Kirkuk. That being said, I have run into a couple of jackasses in the SF community, especially those rent-a-cops. I would agree there are dudes at both ends of the spectrum...

You are correct there are folks at both ends of the spectrum in any profession. I have actually worked with some great SFS folks who were professional and genuinely cared about what they were doing and it is probably not fair that I focus on the negative events. I guess I have just had the unfortunate luck to see a lot of poor behavior. Probably the worst was when I saw a SP who was directing traffic for an airshow, scream at a woman who didn’t understand what he wanted her to do. He literally brought her to tears, with her tow kids in the car. However, at the same airshow I saw a SP pick up and comfort a kid who was crying because he was separated from his parents.

My props to your bro and all of the dudes taking it to the insurgents in Iraq.

[Guest Xtndr50boom]

My best friend from high school is a former SP (got out under force shaping a few months ago cause he hated recruiting). He told me the same thing. There are some great guys, some sh1tty guys, but the only job worse than SF is recruiting.

Dec 03, at the deid. We're alerted around 2 AM for an OEF line. On the way out of camp Andy we see an SF HUMVEE being pulled out of the concertina wire sorrounding the gravel road. We figure he must've fallen asleep or something and lost control. We land around 13 hours later and find out some SPs had forged a letter from the SFS/CC requesting a couple cases of beer for an official function. 3 or 4 guys down the cases by the fire department/tower, and then drove back to tent city, and in a drunken haze ran into the wire.

The next day there was a sign on the door of tent B-1 (KC-10 land) that said;

"AL UDEID AB, NUMBER OF DAYS SINCE LAST DUI.... 1....379th SFS"

It was confiscated pretty quickly. Along with our "KC-10 alert table" sign at the chow hall, and the alert bathroom/shower signs (I saw people actually leave, thinking they couldn't use them).

No more fun of any kind!

[Toro]

Why SFS Cops would lose a mental battle with a piece of toast

Chapter 8: You're supposed to keep the bad guys out, not the good guys in

(thanks CH for picking up Chapters 6 and 7)

During our NATO inspections at the Heath, operations were moved to the flightline and you had to enter and exit via a single gate guarded by the cops. I was leaving after after a particularly rough day - the flights didn't go great, it was almost 2AM, I had been at work nearly 13 hours (and was due back in 12), and I hadn't seen my wife or kid in three days. As I approached the exit gate, the sirens started to go off (impending Alarm Red - lockdown). I was - no $hit - 15 feet from the gate and started to run before the announcement actually came over giant voice to tell us we couldn't leave. Before Giant Voice started talking, the cop at the gate informs us that we are about the go into Alarm Red and we cannot leave.

TORO: Dude, we're two feet from the gate, let us out.

COP: Sir, we are in Alarm Red - I cannot let you leave

TORO: No, we're not actually in alarm red yet. Listen, I've been here 13 hours, I've had a rough day, I'm in a pretty $hitty mood, just let me out.

COP: No sir, I can't do that

TORO: (looking at watch) I go into crew rest in about 3 minutes - you have to let me leave.

COP: No sir

TORO: Listen, either you unlock the gate or I'm going to climb over it.

COP: Sir, we're alarm red - you cannot leave.

I take a look at the gate and see the slapnutz hasn't actually secured it - the lock is just hanging on the latch. I pull it open and walk through. He ends up reporting me to the OG/CC who goes through the roof. The story - as told to him - is that I stormed up there and just blew through the gate...no mention of crew rest. As soon as my SQ/CC heard my side, he calmed the OG/CC down.

To all those who say SFS cops life isn't rosey and they've got it tough in Iraq I say - suck it. These guys aren't in Iraq, they're here in the safety of America pulling dudes over for speeding in empty parking lots at 2am and drinking IBC root beer.

Who do I blame? I blame the SNCOs and commanders of SFS for not instilling some semblance of common sense into these young impresionable troops.

[Mambo]

Who do I blame? I blame the SNCOs and commanders of SFS for not instilling some semblance of common sense into these young impresionable troops.

SHACK!!

[Toro]

Cops...if we didn't have them, we wouldn't need them.

Chapter 9: Common sense continues to elude them

The beginning of this story is similar to my previous Lakenheath OG recall story where I forgot my ID - this time because I left it in my CAC reader at work. Anyway, I show up to the gate thinking it won't be a problem because I have my line badge.

Cop: Sir, can I see your ID?

Me: (Showing line badge) Here you go

Cop: Sir, I need your military ID

Me: That is a military ID

Cop: Sir, I need your official military ID -- I can't let you on with your line badge

Me:WTF? Do you know where I got this? Do you know how I got this? I got this from the SFS shack - this line badge gets me into many more secure locations than my regular military ID. Why can't you let me on with a line badge?

Cop: Sir, that's the rules.

So I grumble back to the visitors center to get myself a paper visitors pass and return to the gate to the same cop.

Cop: Sir, can I see your ID?

Me:Einstein, it's me - the guy who you just turned away 6-9 minutes ago. Here's my visitors pass.

Cop: Sir, do you have a photo ID for verification?

Me: Why yes I do (hands cop line badge)

Cop: Thank you sir, have a nice day.

[Guest THE10MAN]

Sorry to generalize here, but I feel I must...AF cops are meatheads. From the top, right on down. Not saying they don't faithfully serve a noble purpose, but they are GENERALLY not smart enough to do anything else. Some will argue that it takes alot of smarts to be a cop, but the AF dumbs it down to the lowest common denominator and spells it out in crayon for those guys. Who the f_ck would want to be in charge of 50 of them is beyond me. A bit like herding cats from what I've heard. If you're wondering what credibility I possibly could have, I don't. What I do have is a SF Capt bro and this is straight from him. He's a meathead, by the way. Just calling it like I see it, which no one wants to do anymore because we might offend someone. Whatever. If you pass up the opportunity to be a rated aircrew in the United States Air Force, then you're a meathead too. But Mr. 10MAN, not everyone wants to fly airplanes. Whatever. Join the Army. They are scrambling for brave people who don't want to fly airplanes. Meanwhile the AF is trimming the fat. Now if you're physically or otherwise unqual'd, that's a different story. Good luck with your decision. Just don't make it on false perceptions. Good on you for seeking info. At most of the bases I've been assigned, it's the cops that get the most DUIs and are on the blotter for beating their wives, girlfriends or their wives' girlfriends. That speaks volumes to me.

DISCLAIMER: Remember, I said "generally."

[Techsan]

Originally posted by Toro:

Cop: Sir, can I see your ID?

Me:Einstein, it's me - the guy who you just turned away 6-9 minutes ago. Here's my visitors pass.

Cop: Sir, do you have a photo ID for verification?

Me: Why yes I do (hands cop line badge)

Cop: Thank you sir, have a nice day.

Thats hilarious. Exact same thing happen to me. When I showed the guy my line badge he told me that according to the regs, if I voluntarily show him my line badge when not in a restricted area, it is a sign of durress and he can arrest me. I was like what? Whats even scarier is that these kids walk around with their 9 mil on fire. Damn skycops.

[Guest Rainman A-10]

Originally posted by Toro:

Cop: Sir, can I see your ID?

Me:Einstein, it's me - the guy who you just turned away 6-9 minutes ago. Here's my visitors pass.

Cop: Sir, do you have a photo ID for verification?

Me: Why yes I do (hands cop line badge)

Cop: Thank you sir, have a nice day.

Toro, that was classic.

I had almost the same thing happen to me at Eielson. Right after OIF I had to take some of my guys on a whirlwind tour of A-10 units to spin them up with the Litening pod and NVG taxi, T/O and landing operations. The 355th was preparing to go to Bagram and the FS/CC and OG/CC were good pals of mine so I was happy to help out. Anything to help the war effort plus I love flying in Alaska.

I pull up to the gate on day one and hand the guy my ID. It still has the "please have all of my personal information including my address and names of my wife and kids" chip punched out. The cop at the gate freaks out. He confiscates my ID and starts to sweat. He wants to see the ID cards of the other passengers. They all have their chips punched out, too. I try to explain that we were all just recently back from downrange where this was standard practice and he say "Sir, Uh, I seriously doubt it, SIR." I get a pretty pissed off look on my face and he now really starts to panic. He even mentions the words "possible terrorist" into his radio. He keeps my ID and asks me to step out of the car. I decline his invitation and I leave before he gathers himself. He is shouting "Sir, STOP!" as I whip a U-turn and haul ass.

We go grab some chow/beers in beautiful North Pole and I figure it is time for a reattack since there is probably a new guy at the gate. I pull up and its the same freaking guy. This time I keep my window rolled up, hold up my line badge and never really stop moving. He salutes and lets me through. WTFO? I want to turn around and get my ID card back but I figure I'll sort it out in the morning. We proceed to the OG/CCs house for some refreshemnts and introductions and I mention that I lost my ID card at the gate on the way in and ask if it'll be OK if I call the Non-Support Group Commander in the morning to sort it out. He says he'll take care of it.

The next day I cranium over the the FW/CCs office to talk about what we're doing for his guys and the standard BS. I'm surprised to see a special guest in the meeting...the SFS/CC. The SFS/CC looks pissed. He hands me my ID card. He doesn't apologize. He instead thinks he is there to give a lecture. Now, you have to give the guy credit for having some balls as you picture this. There are only four people in the room. He is a Major, standing in the Wing King's office with two OG/CCs (one of whom is a "possible terrorist") and he decides to lecture me about defacing my ID card blah blah blah. I am trying not to laugh. He has turned on the Sir Machine (which all cops think gives them immunity to say or do whatever they want) and is in full rant mode. What he doesn't realize is the Sir Machine is completely ineffective against the threat he is now facing. There is nothing like seeing the look on a person's face when a GO shoves the "clean out your locker" grenade down the front their pants.

Classic.

[Scooter14]

So, Toro can't get through with a line badge, but Rainman can get through WITH a line badge after showing a legit ID that he won't accept because the chip is punched out and labeled as a "possible terrorist" by the SAME FREAKIN GUY!

I bet if you got them all together, they would claim to be "following the rules." I'm glad we don't have "rules" like that.

"Hey tanker, why are you flying at 295?"

"That's the rules"

"I need you to fly at 315"

"Why?"

"That's the rules"

No wonder they want us all to be "on the lookout" and to help out the SF folks.

Gotta love the Active Duty cops.

Luckily, the ANG cops I have come across got issued common sense at Lackland. I did the same thing Toro did (left my CAC in my computer) and took off. Got alerted the next day and rolled up to the gate. Opened my wallet, and to my dismay discovered no ID and no drivers license. As I start to panic, wondering where my ID is, he says "I've been seeing this alot lately...I bet you left it in the computer. I recognize you, though, come on through ."

Personal recognition...what a concept. Walked into ops, went over to the computer, grabbed my CAC and off we went.

[Guest sleepy]

Originally posted by Scooter14:

Luckily, the ANG cops I have come across got issued common sense at Lackland.

Some do, some don't. The non prior guys who were hired with me enlisted one month, and I had to wait until the next month due to lack of AETC stamp on physical.

Billeting was on base that month, so I rolled up to the gate on Friday night, pulled out my driver's license and told them why I was there. The guy didn't even check my DL. Anyone could have driven up and said my name. All I got was a "Have a nice weekend and congratulations."

Later, the other guys showed up and we all headed out to drink beer. They did not yet have a CAC because they had not been gained, but they did have their enlistment papers. When we came back on base together, all I did again was say my name. I got a friendly "Hi." The two guys who were with me, who had already been through the gate once (somehow), had to step out of the car and got the riot act. Must have known there was a car full of future ops guys. Enlistment papers meant nothing to the cop, other than to make him laugh. Some Sgt came speeding up to "the scene" frisking these guys, threatening to call the wing king, etc. I wish he had.

Moral of story: Casually check with a recruiter and see if they have anyone coming on base. Get the name, remember it, and coast through the gate.

[BONE WSO]

SP story that happened to me just now at the gym.

So I am running on the treadmill and I have my ipod on and these two nineteen year old cops are patrolling the gym and come up to me and motion to take off my earphones. I take the earphones off with a disgusted look on my face and ask what they want. The cop asks me for my ID. I don't have the ID and he tells me that I have to get the ID right now. I say YGBFSM, he makes a big deal and I have to get my ID immediately from my truck. I get the ID and put it right in his face, he takes it and looks it over like its counterfeit and hands it back to me without saying a word. They then walk through the gym and do this to everyone. Fukkin ridiculous

On a side note I used to bring the ID all the time but they have never asked to see it so I quit bringing it in.

[Baseops.Net]

I was thoroughly disgusted years ago when the silly skycops changed their names from SP (Security Police) to SF (Security Forces) -- total misnomer in my book. As far as I'm concerned the only SF guys I know are army special forces operators (i.e. REAL shooters, not just some shoe-clerk who stayed at a holiday inn express last night)... I will NEVER call these rejects SF!

BTW, at the front gate of an air force base (CONUS), I noticed the douches wearing body armor UNDERNEATH their BDU blouses the other day -- with their M-16's slung over their shoulders with magazines actually IN their rifles! Perhaps they were expecting another Red Dawn scenario - or maybe they get better intel reports than I do...

Funny, 99% of AF guys (READ: Non-Spec Ops) that deploy aren't even trusted to put their magazine in their weapons!