08Dawg Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 6:06 AM, raimius said: AFGSC UH-1N crews wear them. Expand One of the very few things that makes their miserable existence slightly, oh so slightly more bearable.
raimius Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 On 5/3/2017 at 2:32 AM, 08Dawg said: One of the very few things that makes their miserable existence slightly, oh so slightly more bearable. Expand Flying helicopters helps 2
Dogs-N-Guns Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Are the OCP/2-piece flights suit approved by AETC? I have a few from my MC-12 days and would like to put them back in the rotation. Is the OCP boonie hat authorized in CONUS?
cragspider Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 On 7/10/2017 at 8:42 PM, Dogs-N-Guns said: Are the OCP/2-piece flights suit approved by AETC? I have a few from my MC-12 days and would like to put them back in the rotation. Is the OCP boonie hat authorized in CONUS? Expand I don't know about AETC but ACC has approved them for non ejection seat guys. But you have to wear the patrol cap, wings on your chest, ir flag on the right sleeve. Biggest kicker is that you can't stop off base in them, and that you have to already have them issued to wear them. The unit can't buy them for you to wear at home station.
afthunderchief16 Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 So apparently PACAF just dropped a memo approving the 2 piece flight suits and I'm the lucky guy for our Sq that gets to put together the order. Of course Envision on Kadena doesn't stock them, so I'm looking for a retailer to order from. Is there more than one manufacturer for them? My quick google search made it seem like DRIFIRE has the market cornered. Any other data to pass on how the fit goes would be greatly appreciated as well!
viper154 Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 On 9/6/2017 at 2:00 PM, afthunderchief16 said: So apparently PACAF just dropped a memo approving the 2 piece flight suits and I'm the lucky guy for our Sq that gets to put together the order. Of course Envision on Kadena doesn't stock them, so I'm looking for a retailer to order from. Is there more than one manufacturer for them? My quick google search made it seem like DRIFIRE has the market cornered. Any other data to pass on how the fit goes would be greatly appreciated as well! Expand I'm the supply guy for my unit, we just order them through our base supply. No idea on the brand, they just have the standard US gov issue tags. We have a couple old DRIFIRES hanging around the closet, they seem to be a different material. What we have fit weird. You pretty much have to try them on, some people think they need a large long, and end up wanting a medium regular. 90% of people end up in a medium regular or large short though. Highly recommend you buy MASSIF flight approved jackets if you fly anywhere it might be cold, we issue both the heavy weight and light weight and I love both. Light is perfect for spring/fall and the heavy weight keeps me warm down to 15 degree range. Also great at blocking wind. The MASSIF combat shirts are now flight approved as well, I really like them, if you are in a jet that wears body armor. I think MASSIF is now making the actual two pieces as well, I've never seen them in person though. MASSIF is a little pricey but they put out a quality product. If you PM me a .mil I can give you or base supply number and maybe they can point you in the right direction.
raimius Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Yeah, if you've got the budget, Massif is about as close to magic as I've seen in clothing. Shell jacket that keeps you comfy from 55-15F...or -20 if you wear their base layers as well.
Standby Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) Thread revival...anybody know if there is any guidance that prevents the wear of a safe-to-fly Massif in AETC/T-38 aircraft? I have been issued two of them in AFSOC but have never seen a green version being worn with a bag despite their existence. Cheers Edited January 4, 2018 by Standby
Breckey Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 The Massif Elements jacket is certified safe-to-fly in all Air Force aircraft. There is a green version coming out called the CWAS that has the normal bag patch configuration and a Velcro hole for the Combat Edge vest tube.
brabus Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 I know guys who have flown with the green massif for years, but according to our AFE guy, "they" just recently took them off the fly list, for no apparent reason considering their flame retardant properties.
Boomer6 Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 Vance bros have been wearing them for around two years in the T6 and T38.
Ram Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 Osan just got a huge batch (some without the chest hole for combat edge, which is useless anyway) and all pilots are wearing them.They’re fukkin great. Also got the matching pants, which helps because I motorcycle to work when it’s 3.6 degrees out.
ClearedHot Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/4/2018 at 12:25 PM, Ram said: They’re fukkin great. Also got the matching pants, which helps because I motorcycle to work when it’s 3.6 degrees out. Expand Any better when it is 6.9 degrees out? 1 1
FUSEPLUG Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 Every time this thread revives, I come back hoping they're going to allow us to wear black t-shirts and boots again. 4
Champ Kind Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/4/2018 at 4:38 PM, FUSEPLUG said: Every time this thread revives, I come back hoping they're going to allow us to wear black t-shirts and boots again.Still have mine saved.
Ram Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/4/2018 at 2:48 PM, ClearedHot said: Any better when it is 6.9 degrees out?About 36.9% better.There’s a “one car per household” rule here, so the majority of accompanied pilots I know are forced to moto/scoot to work so CINCHOUSE can shuttle kids around.#pilotshortage
Vimix22 Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 On 9/8/2017 at 9:29 PM, raimius said: Yeah, if you've got the budget, Massif is about as close to magic as I've seen in clothing. Shell jacket that keeps you comfy from 55-15F...or -20 if you wear their base layers as well. Expand $580 retail on this jacket?!? Is it made of fairy dust??
LookieRookie Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/4/2018 at 10:26 PM, Vimix22 said: $580 retail on this jacket?!? Is it made of fairy dust?? Expand Milspec markup
SocialD Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/4/2018 at 10:26 PM, Vimix22 said: $580 retail on this jacket?!? Is it made of fairy dust?? Expand They may be expensive but it's a damn nice jacket. Very warm and MUCH easier to move around in the the jet. Was glad I had it, considering it was colder here today than it was in Barrow, AK.
Breckey Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) Berets for Advisors Don't we already have bush hats for Air Commandos? Edited January 5, 2018 by Breckey
Guest nsplayr Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 One squadron at HRT that all bought bush hats and tried to wear them in uniform on Fridays was told to knock it off pretty fast. So even though they’re allowed by AFI, base leadership just kinda did whatever they wanted and said no.
Danger41 Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 12:38 AM, nsplayr said: One squadron at HRT that all bought bush hats and tried to wear them in uniform on Fridays was told to knock it off pretty fast. So even though they’re allowed by AFI, base leadership just kinda did whatever they wanted and said no. Expand When was that? Those bush hats are pretty sweet. 1
viper154 Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 10:39 PM, Breckey said: Berets for Advisors Don't we already have bush hats for Air Commandos? Expand Yes, my sqd at Cannon wears them in the bar every Friday, and they are badass
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