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10 hours ago, boxedlunch said:

Suprising lack of rumint/speculation on here or pprune. Hope the pilot's ok. 

Video seemed pretty clear.

“Open the door, HAL!”

“I’m sorry, David, but I can’t do that.”

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22 minutes ago, BFM this said:

Video seemed pretty clear.

“Open the door, HAL!”

“I’m sorry, David, but I can’t do that.”

The old b-2 handles pulled and try harder pops up on mfd

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Wild.  They butt the entire F-35 system to get the B model fielded and then end up backing off it in the end.  
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I wish they could back off completely but some Allies are committed to that model so that shit sandwich is going to get eaten no matter what


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Yup, I see both sides.
Just my opinion but I’d buy domestic if I were them
- Local industrial base, you’ll need that for the upcoming GCAP
- EF is already good and getting improvements
- You have F-35B in the RN and LO capabilities there if you need it
- Shit is in flux with the USA & Europe, have your own stuff


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A bit late but:

EF is not a good aircraft by modern standards.

More expensive than a F-35 by about $30M with the ~capes of a block 40 F-16 in most regards with its mech scan radar and outdated computer.

Lots of capability gap depending on the tranche and country flying it.

Great BFM machine as it was designed in the 80’s and that’s about its only redeeming quality.

There’s a reason only the Arab states are buying it.

Sustainment is costly due to the economy of scale.

It’s a jobs program, that’s the best thing about it.



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A bit late but:

EF is not a good aircraft by modern standards.

More expensive than a F-35 by about $30M with the ~capes of a block 40 F-16 in most regards with its mech scan radar and outdated computer.

Lots of capability gap depending on the tranche and country flying it.

Great BFM machine as it was designed in the 80’s and that’s about its only redeeming quality.

There’s a reason only the Arab states are buying it.

Sustainment is costly due to the economy of scale.

It’s a jobs program, that’s the best thing about it.



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I hear ya and agree for Typhoons still flying with mech scan radars, legacy systems
They are modernizing but I think like your reference to which tranche, as it modernizes it’ll be country / tranche specific
For the Brits I hope they take the lead and I think I’d do the same thing if I were making the calls for them, keeping my acquisition options in two worlds even if I was capes deficient for a portion of my team but had a plan to improve it
The Spanish are modernizing theirs first I think

https://www.eurofighter.com/news/eurofighter-programme-renaissance-continues-with-spanish-order-for-25-additional-jets#:~:text=The%20new%20Spanish%20Eurofighters%20will,across%20400%20companies%20in%20Europe


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