Champ Kind Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) Post deleted. Edited March 25, 2011 by Champ Kind
Bayou_Eagle_Driver Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) Want to tell a little more about the story, Rainman? Removed Edited March 26, 2011 by ȘÅİňŦ
ClearedHot Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 You guys kill me. The instant I saw Junker 14 I sent Rainman a note saying a Google search would reveal his name (something he might not want you guys plastering all over the place).
Hacker Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 You guys kill me. The instant I saw Junker 14 I sent Rainman a note saying a Google search would reveal his name (something he might not want you guys plastering all over the place). He all ready regularly posts his AF Times cover shot here (which has his name on it)...I don't think he's all that concerned about it.
Guest Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 And you should know. Nice try but that's not my name or rank. These are not the Droids you're looking for. He all ready regularly posts his AF Times cover shot here (which has his name on it)...I don't think he's all that concerned about it. If one time counts as regularly I'm guilty. FWIW I fucked that up and pulled it when I realized my name was on it, tumbleweed move on my part.
Steve Davies Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Give me some credit. I know that's not your name and rank.
Hacker Posted March 26, 2011 Posted March 26, 2011 If one time counts as regularly I'm guilty. FWIW I fucked that up and pulled it when I realized my name was on it, tumbleweed move on my part. Awww, now, I've seen it posted twice...
Tex Posted March 26, 2011 Posted March 26, 2011 I now stand corrected, multiple times. I had forgotten about Vega and didn't know about Junker. Thanks for the history lesson.
FallingOsh Posted March 26, 2011 Posted March 26, 2011 Every fighter pilot should read about LtCol Zelko. He is the best example of a survivor affecting his own rescue I have ever heard about in recent time. Not a bad summary of events for those who haven't heard the story. Vega 31
TMFan Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Some info was released today on the rescue of the WSO: CIA officers assisted with the rescue of one of two U.S. airmen whose fighter jet crashed in Libya on March 21, a knowledgeable U.S. source said. Full article at https://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/31/libya.war/index.html?hpt=T1#
Hacker Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 https://www.lakenheath.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123250470 Ana Eason Harney (wife), Dorene Stark (mother) and Bruce Stark (father) joyfully await the arrival of a C-130 transporting Maj. Kenneth Harney and Capt. Tyler Stark to RAF Lakenheath, England March 26, 2011. The two aircrew members whose, F-15E Strike Eagle crashed in Libya during Operation Odyssey Dawn, were greeted by their family and friends. The 48th Fighter Wing provides all-weather, day or night air superiority and air-to-ground precision combat capability as well as combat search and rescue. (U.S. Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Lee A. Osberry Jr./Released) Video link: https://www.lakenheath.af.mil/shared/widgets/popup.asp?url=https://www.lakenheath.af.mil/shared/xml/rssVideo.asp?mrsstype=3&contentid=123250470&contenttypeid=1&type=video&pos=0
Guest F15ERJ Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 Good stuff...any word on why they had to punch?
Spinner Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 Yep! Something went wrong and they weren't able to save the jet... 1
Learjetter Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 I've got no SA on this: is it AF policy that if you get forced down (mishap or otherwise), get rescued in short order without injury, then you still go home? Do you get an opportunity to stay in the fight? Different for POWs, injuries, detained personnel requiring debrief, etc....I get that concept. Or is this a "mishap" and the grounding is part of the normal SIB processes? I remember reading about Ravens, fighters, bombers, etc throughout our history that got forced down, rescued, and flew a line the next day (WWII, Korea, etc)--in fact my ROTC PAS was a Phantom pilot in Vietnam who told us he got shot down, twisted an ankle, got rescued after a short time hiding, and flew again the next week. Then there's other stories like Ogrady--shot down, rescued, sent home. Anyone have a theory on why some stay and some go home?
Danger41 Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 (edited) I've got no SA on this: is it AF policy that if you get forced down (mishap or otherwise), get rescued in short order without injury, then you still go home? Do you get an opportunity to stay in the fight? Different for POWs, injuries, detained personnel requiring debrief, etc....I get that concept. Or is this a "mishap" and the grounding is part of the normal SIB processes? I remember reading about Ravens, fighters, bombers, etc throughout our history that got forced down, rescued, and flew a line the next day (WWII, Korea, etc)--in fact my ROTC PAS was a Phantom pilot in Vietnam who told us he got shot down, twisted an ankle, got rescued after a short time hiding, and flew again the next week. Then there's other stories like Ogrady--shot down, rescued, sent home. Anyone have a theory on why some stay and some go home? I know the Geneva Convention doesn't allow POW's to return to combat. The US interprets that as the same theater of operations. I would imagine that those dudes somehow massaged that rule to get back in the fight. Edited April 8, 2011 by Danger41
Guest Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 I know the Geneva Convention doesn't allow POW's to return to combat. The US interprets that as the same theater of operations. I would imagine that those dudes somehow massaged that rule to get back in the fight. We had a guy who was a POW that returned to the same theater. I think it is the indiviudal's choice to invoke an exemption or not but I don't know for sure.
Breckey Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 But none of them were POW's, they were picked up and returned within hours of ejecting
MKopack Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 We had a pilot that was blown up by his own MK84 back in '91. Punched and the Navy picked him up. We got him back two days later and he was told that he wouldn't be allowed to continue flying missions. He told everyone that they were going to have to send him home then, and when that was 'shot down', he was back in the cockpit a day or two later.
ClearedHot Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) Downed Airmen tell their tale "Yo, dad I need you to make a call for me"...Freaking classic! https://security.blog...tale/?hpt=hp_c3 Edited January 18, 2012 by ClearedHot
Homestar Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 "Fortunately I walked into the room and got a round of applause." I would love to read his SERE debrief. Good on both of them for returning safely!
Guest Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 Also classic... "Investigators believe one of the flight maneuvers threw the plane off balance for a variety of technical reasons that the two-man crew could not have anticipated."
backseatdriver Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 The WSO was on his first combat mission? Talk about shitty luck!
brabus Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Suddenly the aircraft spun out of control. Damn, I hate it when jets just out of nowhere spin out of control.
Guest Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 No shit. I hope that doen't start happening too often.
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