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your time in Big Blue will end when you decide you have someplace better to be. It's that simple.

The other side to this is that the Big AF doesn't really care about you. If every general in the Pentagon disappeared tonight, the parties thrown by the O-6s would be legendary. The Air Force doesn't take care of people...people take care of people. If you're surrounded by sh*theads, expect to be treated accordingly. More importantly, if the organization you're part off seems to encourage and develop said sh*theads, you might wish to consider a different line of work.

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Disruptive Thinkers and Opportunistic Leadership

On deployment, junior leaders spend every day face to face with what works and what doesn’t, what matters and what doesn’t, and what needs to change. They are invested with the responsibility and ability to adapt their actions to their environment. When the deployment ends, this ability is stripped from them. They are ensconced in a straightjacket of legacy bureaucracy, regulations, and traditions. Not only is their ability to make decisions stripped from them, but they have no access to those that do have the power to make improvements. They are told by their organization that, no matter what they have seen or done or accomplished, they are not smart enough to know what needs to change. Grown men and women, aged beyond their years by the hardships of war, are told to stay in their room. They’ll understand when they’re older. There should be no surprise that these men and women seek to take their talents elsewhere. It is a paradoxical problem. An organization requires both bureaucracy to sustain itself and innovative thinking to improve. Yet, the bureaucracy stifles innovative thinking and innovative thinking threatens bureaucracy.
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Or having functioning sperm, technique only.

Some people are willing to help out the hundreds of thousands of children- both domestic and worldwide- by taking them out of really shitty situations and providing them with a better life. Functioning sperm or not. Technique only.

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Aww, you quoted the core values. That's cute. You must be a PME graduate.

ASBC in Residence six years ago. I'm quite proud of that.

FAIP, right? Also, less kool-aid, more bourbon.

How is this view point drinking the kool-aid? If you knew me at all, you'd realize I hate the kool-aid and bourbon (kool-aid in disguise). I'm more of a Dr. Pepper guy.

Wow, had I known he was a FAIP I don't think I would have glorified his reply WRT this topic with a response, but I suppose it keeps the conversation moving along.

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I can't put my finger on it, but I feel like the Army has had a quiet revolution among its officers Maj and below in the last five years that simply hasn't happened in the Air Force. With the guidance from Gen Petreas to young leaders that "In the absence of orders, you should figure out what the orders should have been and execute that," folks like CPT Travis have come up with ideas like "How to win in Al Anbar." They've been able to innovate, test these ideas on the battlefield, and duplicate the good ones out to everyone in the AOR.

The Air Force has been fighting various shades of the same fights since March 1991. As a result, we haven't had the absolute transformation that the Army has in terms of a young leader's ability to innovate. In my view, we've had continuous top-down evolution in the form of updated systems and equipment, but not nearly as much push upwards from our young folks. We've evolved into the ground combat support force that we are today. It will take a revolution to get us back to a force that can capture and maintain absolute air supremacy....I hope we have the environment that allows push-up rapid innovation before the time when it is needed.

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First of all, I don't know a single fighter pilot that is reaching their commitment and not either getting out completely or transitioning to the ANG / Reserve.

What are they going to do for employment when they get out? Just curious.

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What are they going to do for employment when they get out? Just curious.

I love this comeback. I am separating soon and I get this question from the robots all the time, as if I am DOOMED!! I am sure it's just curiosity (morbid curiosity). But for the guys who will separate, they will figure something out. There are loads of opportunities.

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I love this comeback. I am separating soon and I get this question from the robots all the time, as if I am DOOMED!! I am sure it's just curiosity (morbid curiosity). But for the guys who will separate, they will figure something out. There are loads of opportunities.

So what are you going to do for employment?

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I apologize, I'll cut back on the drunk posting. Sometimes I think I'm funny and then realize later I was just being a dick.

It's totally cool. This guy could kill you with a spoon. Glad he isn't on here. Cheers!

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What are they going to do for employment when they get out? Just curious.

Since I got out on 30 Apr:

- Not shave (not employment, more like a hobby).

- I have a Reserve job flying T-38's

- I have a CFI job at the local airport

- waiting for an airline to call...I do have a tentative offer to get an Phenom 300 type and help shuttle some aircraft around...could be fun.

- if I still need more cash, I'll work at Lowes part time (i LOVE that store)

Bottom line: I have control over what I do and for how long I work there...when I don't like it anymore, I'll leave.

Cheers,

Cap-10

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What are they going to do for employment when they get out? Just curious.

to name a few..

-all the major business jet OEM's are hiring (citation, gulfstream, bombardier, embraer etc..)

-all the major avionics mfg's are hiring (Honeywell, Garmin, Rockwell-Collins etc..)

-Jet engine mfg's are hiring (rolls royce, GE, Pratt etc..)

-Feedback I got at NBAA last fall and EBACE last week, is that corporate pilots are in demand (part 135 and part 91)

-Fedex is hiring around 12 a month

-CBP just finished another round of hiring, and is expected to hire more this year

-International ISR contract work is still in demand if your single (airscan, dynamic, avenge etc..)

these are just off the top of my skull.. i work in management at one of the aforementioned and we have had trouble filling sales manager jobs (that include flying the company aircraft to peddle goods). It's not a terrible time to seperate, its not 1999, but it ain't bad. Not all of these are flying gigs, but most AF pilots are marketable depending on squadron jobs, engineering backgrounds, former mx, etc..

On top of that, many ANG/Res units are hurting for qualified dudes (heavies atleast).

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What are they going to do for employment when they get out? Just curious.

If folks don't have a contingency plan in place by now (employment, using GI Bill for a real, worthwhile masters, beer liaison for the underaged, whatever), especially with all the writing on the wall (non-continuation for passed-over majors, budget cuts, RIFs, failed VSPs, drawdown in Afghanistan), then perhaps they're best served by fighting to stay AD as long as possible.

Enjoy your 365 iTDY (or two) to a shithole. Hope that retirement is there in another 5-10 years. Hope that 18x pipeline gets up and running.

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Plus all the regionals are hiring, supplemented with reserve pay its livable. The reason I was asking was how many were still thinking of flying for a living once they got out. Interesting times not just for the military side of flying.

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