olevelo Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 Pilot I work with didn't make it. Sounds like he's gonna get the boot cause he's not eligible for TERA. Any other word on whether this was actually the case? As I mentioned before, I heard of a case last year where a guy wasn't eligible for TERA, but they have to be pretty unique cases.
Azimuth Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 My boss told me a guy he worked with at his last assignment is getting the boot.
Chicken Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 My boss told me a guy he worked with at his last assignment is getting the boot. Any word on who is getting continuation? I have heard everything from only 11S... no 12S... to it's a random vote.. the F.
Bobby Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Any word on who is getting continuation? I have heard everything from only 11S... no 12S... to it's a random vote.. the F. 11F here. Offered continuation, politely declined. I'm out! 2
Duck Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 It's so great we are passing over so many fighter dudes. I mean all I ever hear anymore is how overmanned we are in 11Fs... /sarcasm off. Who is running this s#itshow?
SnapLock Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 It's so great we are passing over so many fighter dudes. I mean all I ever hear anymore is how overmanned we are in 11Fs... /sarcasm off. Who is running this s#itshow? It's because we eat our own and don't take care of you unless you're one of the "chosen" ones.
Chicken Posted July 17, 2015 Posted July 17, 2015 It's because we eat our own and don't take care of you unless you're one of the "chosen" ones. The thing is.. I don't mind staying a O4 and doing my job for the next however many years. The problem is that the AF doesn't like to prepare people. I have more statistics than I care on why I didn't get promoted.. but the bottom line is that I want to know my chances at continuation. Were 80% 12S continued? 0%? Is continuation decided by the board members having a foamy sword LARPing battle after having a number of drinks? I have no idea.. I don't want to count on continuation if ZERO navigators or 12S folks were not continued.. How is this information not available?
Chicken Posted July 25, 2015 Posted July 25, 2015 I know an 11H that was offered continuation. Seems like pilots (not sure how many) were offered continuation. No 12S were offered continuation this year. So TERA is authorized until 2018, and it seems this year anyone eligible for TERA was offered it. What are the chances it is still offered next year and the AF doesn't pull another rug?
olevelo Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 Seems like pilots (not sure how many) were offered continuation. No 12S were offered continuation this year. So TERA is authorized until 2018, and it seems this year anyone eligible for TERA was offered it. What are the chances it is still offered next year and the AF doesn't pull another rug? I can't really see them not offering TERA while it's still authorized after the shit-show of 2011. 11F here. Offered continuation, politely declined. I'm out! I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but can you take TERA?
Bobby Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but can you take TERA? TERA was not offered. Doesn't affect my desire/decision to leave. 1
BonedRiver Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) 11B offered continuation//decling & walking away 30 Nov with nothing. My Wing/CC showed me the SECAF instructions to the continuation board after I inquired in June about why I was the only B-1 guy given an ultimatum (stay in/accept continuation OR Else... leave with nothing), while all my 2x passed over B-1 brethren had won the lottery with non-continuation/TERA. AFSCs on the SECAF's critical skills list were offered continuation (the stay or leave with nothing this year). Those not on the list are automatically in the non-continuation bucket, with TERA if eligible. There was one small caveat at the end of one paragraph saying the board can continue whoever they want based on the "best interest" of the AF. He told me that must be how I was offered continuation as a "non critical' skill. Seems sketchy... you'd think "best interest" would be to coerce ALL pilots to stay in via this shitty continuation deal instead of retiring them. Talking with continuation folks at AFPC... ONLY 135 officers were offered continuation this year. I know of at least 5 (all pilots, btw) that are all declining it, despite leaving with nothing. What really pissed me off, is that I'm not even a critical skill, yet somehow, the AF thinks they're offering me this amazing deal by trying to financially coerce me to stay in, TBNT! Edited August 4, 2015 by BonedRiver
Bobby Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 11B offered continuation//decling & walking away 30 Nov with nothing. My Wing/CC showed me the SECAF instructions to the continuation board after I inquired in June about why I was the only B-1 guy given an ultimatum (stay in/accept continuation OR Else... leave with nothing), while all my 2x passed over B-1 brethren had won the lottery with non-continuation/TERA. AFSCs on the SECAF's critical skills list were offered continuation (the stay or leave with nothing this year). Those not on the list are automatically in the non-continuation bucket, with TERA if eligible. There was one small caveat at the end of one paragraph saying the board can continue whoever they want based on the "best interest" of the AF. He told me that must be how I was offered continuation as a "non critical' skill. Seems sketchy... you'd think "best interest" would be to coerce ALL pilots to stay in via this shitty continuation deal instead of retiring them. Talking with continuation folks at AFPC... ONLY 135 officers were offered continuation this year. I know of at least 5 (all pilots, btw) that are all declining it, despite leaving with nothing. What really pissed me off, is that I'm not even a critical skill, yet somehow, the AF thinks they're offering me this amazing deal by trying to financially coerce me to stay in, TBNT! Same here, 11F, offered continuation...declined. I'm out in a few more weeks!
Vetter Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Leave and never look back. Offering continuation is a win-win for the AF. They either get you to stay or they get your separation pay. It's fucking extortion. 2
BonedRiver Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 For those considering being twice passed over next year+      HAF/A1 doesn't foresee TERA being an option for those non-continued despite being authorized for use by Congress through 2018. Enjoy, and get out now!
KillEmAll Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 When A1 says "we do not foresee using TERA for any boards currently scheduled", are they talking in the same context of your situation where you ARE offered continuation but turn it down and are asking for TERA? Or do they mean no TERA for this year to people who just don't get continued and are forced to get out? Â If it's the later, that sounds a lot like the 2011 debacle. Â It's hard to tell which you are talking about because we can't see your questions and what this guy was referring to with "softening the impact".
BonedRiver Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 When A1 says "we do not foresee using TERA for any boards currently scheduled", are they talking in the same context of your situation where you ARE offered continuation but turn it down and are asking for TERA? Or do they mean no TERA for this year to people who just don't get continued and are forced to get out?  If it's the later, that sounds a lot like the 2011 debacle.  It's hard to tell which you are talking about because we can't see your questions and what this guy was referring to with "softening the impact".I read it as no TERA period. I anticipate them returning to previous guidance of offering continuation to anyone with less than 6-yrs to retirement and/or a critical skill. -- all due to FY14 cutting too deep, and retention sucking so bad.I encourage anyone interested to keep an eye on DoDI 1320.08
Chicken Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) I read it as no TERA period. I anticipate them returning to previous guidance of offering continuation to anyone with less than 6-yrs to retirement and/or a critical skill. -- all due to FY14 cutting too deep, and retention sucking so bad.I encourage anyone interested to keep an eye on DoDI 1320.08I talked with someone at AFPC and they anticipate this as well.  TERA will no longer be an option and folks get continuation just as prior to 2011.  According to AFPC the last board in Sep (not sure what it was, non LAF O4?) offered continuation to everyone passed over.  When I asked about the chances of non-continuation and then not getting TERA they said they is 0% chance of that happening..  other than negative discriminators on their record. Edited October 12, 2015 by Chicken
olevelo Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 I read all of that very differently. It sounds like if you're closer to the 16 year point you're more likely to get continued, but if you're closer to 15 you have a chance at TERA unless you're on one of the critical lists. And there's no chance of involuntary separation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now