What's wrong with the Air Force?

[Tonka]

https://www.airforcem...th-Boredom.aspx

To help prevent airmen from getting bored in their jobs after 12 hard years of war and being in a specific career field, the Air Force needs to find a way to retain them, said Cody during the Sept. 18 briefing. Without a sense of adventure, "bored airmen will go somewhere else," he said. "They will not hang around long." Cody said "it's difficult to say" what must change since not all airmen are back yet, but this is something senior leadership will have to discuss. "We need to integrate them back into their units" and allow them to "decompress," he said. "Normal's going to look dramatically different when you take [the airmen] out of that [combat] environment," said Cody.

yeah, boredom...that's at the top of my list of problems to solve.

Although, to give him some credit, he is right, "They will not hang around long"... but please no more creative "adventures".

[KState_Poke22]

https://www.airforcem...th-Boredom.aspx

yeah, boredom...that's at the top of my list of problems to solve.

Although, to give him some credit, he is right, "They will not hang around long"... but please no more creative "adventures".

I think he kind of has a point. We all complain about deployments (and for many people they will continue past OEF to Africa and wherever else) but when we're just training and not going to Afghanistan to actually hack the mission it could definitely cause boredom in some people. Obviously that is HIGHLY dependent on your airframe/job/mission but it holds somewhat true.

[Jaded]

Maybe that statement is in response to drone pilots' horrific ATP take rates.

[Stank]

Was boredom a problem before OEF? I don't remember it being a problem in the 90s. Where is this guy coming from?

From 2001 until present, the AF didn't seem to care much about high deployment rates other than giving lip service to them and making us fill out medical forms. But now they're worried about us being bored? YGBSM.

[SocialD]

I think he kind of has a point. We all complain about deployments (and for many people they will continue past OEF to Africa and wherever else) but when we're just training and not going to Afghanistan to actually hack the mission it could definitely cause boredom in some people. Obviously that is HIGHLY dependent on your airframe/job/mission but it holds somewhat true.

Are you kidding? Listening to the guys talk about pre-OEF/OIF days makes me jealous. I would love to get back to those days!

[KState_Poke22]

Are you kidding? Listening to the guys talk about pre-OEF/OIF days makes me jealous. I would love to get back to those days!

Fair enough, I guess it's different when you've seen both but for many of us post 9/11 is s we've known.

[BitteEinBit]

Airmen "won't hang around long?" Isn't that what the Air Force wants? We don't have a retention problem...you said so just 6 short months ago when we talked about more personnel cuts.. Retention is the highest it has been in 16 years. Airmen will hang around...don't worry Air Force.

[StoleIt]

Today's what's wrong with the AF:

Catching shit for not going to a WG/CC's Call because the scheduling shop is a disaster. No, I can't take 90 minutes away from the shop if you want to fly next month...oh yea that's right Shirt and Sup you aren't fliers...

[deaddebate]

Looks like Welsh and Cody have a similar mindset:

Welsh also expressed concern about retaining the Air Force’s best Airmen, specifically pilots, as training hours dwindle and units are grounded.

“Our rated force has options,” Welsh said. “They served well and now they have choices to make … If we’re not letting them keep their edge, they’ll walk.”

[matmacwc]

Are you kidding? Listening to the guys talk about pre-OEF/OIF days makes me jealous. I would love to get back to those days!

In fairness the AF was engaged in Northern and Southern Watch so the AF deployment schedule hasn't been calm since the first Gulf War. The Army and US public usually forgets that, 23 years of combat/deployment ops to a sandy craphole, nothing to be jealous of.

[Warrior]

So in between TDYs I try and take a little leave...then I get to go to work while I'm on leave because there are still OPRs and medals to write. Yeah, I'm super concerned about getting bored. Are these guys high? I thought spice was outlawed in the AF

[Day Man]

So in between TDYs I try and take a little leave...then I get to go to work while I'm on leave because there are still OPRs and medals to write.

[Bode]

Well I honestly remember the pre9/11 world and the operations we were doing I was not really bored. I can say that as a maintainer we had time to properly do inspection methodically and put quality work into repairs. Amazing how times have changed. I believe people will still be busy but not working 12+ hrs and still going home to work EPR/OPRs and trying to find gym time.

Rather be Flying but I'm using Tapatalk

Edited September 21, 2013 by Lstcause257

[Toro]

Apparently you've never combined use or lose with a stack of shit-to-do in September.

[WABoom]

Still believe Careerism is the root of all evil in the AF.

[TarHeelPilot]

deaddebate-- the CSAF is spot-on with that assessment.

[FUSEPLUG]

Break, Break...

What's this I'm hearing about an AMC-level Sq/CC being fired for using the term "Chiefed" in an e-mail to the squadron.

Can anyone confirm?

[BitteEinBit]

I believe it...especially if we are back to doing "sock checks." The war is over gents...

...oh, and Ladies too. I don't want to be fired for discrimination...

[Ram]

It was the SQ/CC of the Spang F-16s that were in deployed to Kandahar who got fired for the "chiefed" comment.

[Infamous]

I believe it...especially if we are back to doing "sock checks." The war is over gents...

...oh, and Ladies too. I don't want to be fired for discrimination...

I've been waiting for years to drop my flight suit if I ever get sock checked...

[BattleRattle]

It was the SQ/CC of the Spang F-16s that were in deployed to Kandahar who got fired for the "chiefed" comment.

Details?

[Warrior]

Details?

2. Methinks there's more to this story.

[pawnman]

So in between TDYs I try and take a little leave...then I get to go to work while I'm on leave because there are still OPRs and medals to write. Yeah, I'm super concerned about getting bored. Are these guys high? I thought spice was outlawed in the AF

Why would you take leave then go to work? If you're going to be at work writing OPRs and medals, don't go on leave.

[KState_Poke22]

It was the SQ/CC of the Spang F-16s that were in deployed to Kandahar who got fired for the "chiefed" comment.

There's more to the story than just that. My understanding was it was for something way more serious, that email was just an additional thing to throw spears at...

[Ram]

Nope. That's it.