Cell Dweller Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 That ADO needs to be less clever, and more effective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarheadBoom Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I am quickly becoming the evil and soulless field grade officer that the Air Force desires. At least he admitted it... even if he was a complete and total assholedouchebagfuckstain in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.L Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) The thing that irritates me about this e-mail is that BDOS for some dudes is 2+weeks out from their deployment date. I did mine three weeks before I left for my deployment, and couldn't take leave for X-mas or New Years. It's the kind of buffoonery that runs rampant at that base. Cheers! BL Edited March 12, 2014 by B.L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) The thing that irritates me about this e-mail is that BDOS for some dudes is 2+weeks out from their deployment date. I did mine three weeks before I left for my deployment, and couldn't take leave for X-mas or New Years. It's the kind of buffoonery that runs rampant at that base. Cheers! BL Hmmm...I'm sorry that happened to you, BL. There needs to be a case-by-case basis applied to handling everyone's personal affairs as they pertain to our professional lives (leave, deployments, TDYs, etc.). It's clearly a morale issue that every Squadron Commander should have as one of his top priorities. A blanket policy that is enforced in the situation you describe is down right awful; I'm glad you can still smile after being treated like that. I pretend that it doesn't indicate that you like it rough. At least he admitted it... even if he was a complete and total assholedouchebagfuckstain in the process. This is the exact reason that ADOs should not be allowed to do shit without the DO's oversight. S/He is, after all, the A-DO. The problem starts to emerge when you have "assholedouchebagfuckstains" that the DO doesn't mentor because he's too busy doing "important stuff" like flying and teaching academics no one NEEDS. There is the possibility that he is merely overwhelmed with his own responsibilities, doesn't realize that being a good DO takes a lot of energy and A LOT of time, simply has no fucking clue what he's doing, or is literally incapable of mentoring anyone because he literally has O-5's that are ADOs (some of which are definitely "assholedouchebagfuckstains"). And before you think that an O-5 ADO has any motivation to "mentor" other O-4 ADOs or an O-4 DO, I'm not sure I can agree with the way you think. There are exceptions to everything. Did I mention that I think having O-3 DO's isn't a bright idea? This reminds me of the conversation on flyers being CC's of other units on base. I don't remember if I liked it or not, but I'm starting to think not. Bendy Edited March 12, 2014 by Bender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONE WSO Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 THIS is what's wrong with the AF. From a MC-12 squadron. If six on, six off deployment cycle wasn't bad enough; now pre-deployment leave is not allowed outside of the local area and sex life must be coordinated with the ADO. Subject: Outlining expectations and policy XXXXXX, A couple of recent incidents are prompting this squadron advisory email so please read and heed. 1. Leave beyond the local area WILL NOT be approved after BDOS. Local area is somewhat subjective but if you can't be recalled to the squadron within 2 hours then you will probably be denied. This is completely subject to my discretion so please be ready to explain your leave plan to me prior to approval. If I approve your local area leave and you have uncompleted pre-deployment prep or job related handoff then expect your leave to be cancelled at anytime. 2. Take charge of your deployment and major life events. Babies generally require 9-10 months to be fully operational post merge. There is plenty of time for you and your wife to execute the merge, deploy and return for your baby's solo flight. If you choose to advise me of your upcoming major life event with less than 7.5 months notice then you are failing to take charge of your deployment and are completely at my mercy. If you can't plan for your own future I have no pity. Come talk to me and I will help you evaluate your options. Bottom line, waive your dwell, deploy and return in time for your major life event and you have taken charge of your life and your wife and country will celebrate your sacrifice. If you desire to acquire a wife/husband with which to execute the merge then you should also consider taking charge of your major life event in a similar fashion. I am quickly becoming the evil and soulless field grade officer that the Air Force desires. XXXXXXXXXX, Maj, USAF ### RS Assistant Director of Operations Beale AFB, CA What a total asshole. If an ADO, who is a Major, sent this out in our squadron he would be hated from that point forward and would get every single bad deal that could be given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak47 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 What a total asshole. If an ADO, who is a Major, sent this out in our squadron he would be hated from that point forward and would get every single bad deal that could be given. The shit of it is that there's a distinct possibility he was at one time in your squadron as a T-6 FAIP who got a bomber not named the BUFF. Now he rains hate here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prozac Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Jesus Christ. I'll bet this guy plays shoot your watch and talks about aspect ratio, and notching, and what not while fucking his wife. Guys, the water's nice on the other side. Big Blue will get the idea when you start voting with feet in large numbers. There is literally no reason to put up with this kind of shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17D_guy Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) This reminds me of the conversation on flyers being CC's of other units on base. I don't remember if I liked it or not, but I'm starting to think not. We wouldn't like it either. Already dealing with multiple DO's in the OG front office and each associated Ops Sq has multiple DOs/ADOs. Now they're farming out O3 aircrew to be Execs in MSG, MX and other groups. No more please. Edit - for clarity, I hope. Edited March 12, 2014 by 17D_guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 He's a fucking douche, even if he is passing down words from his commanders he isn't being the appropriate shit screen. I get what he is saying, but what a good reason for his people to apply for separation. I betcha he isn't even a fighter guy....trying to be cute with those "merge" words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azimuth Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 We wouldn't like it either. Already dealing with multiple DO's from the OG and each associated Ops Sq with them farming out O3 aircrew to be Execs in MSG and other groups. No more please. How's that working telling O-5's no as an O-3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONE WSO Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) The shit of it is that there's a distinct possibility he was at one time in your squadron as a T-6 FAIP who got a bomber not named the BUFF. Now he rains hate here. I have been in the B-1 for seven years and have never heard anyone talk about "the merge" or act like that. He didn't pick up his bad attitude or his choice of words from our community. Edited March 12, 2014 by BONE WSO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetfreezer Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The shit of it is that there's a distinct possibility he was at one time in your squadron as a T-6 FAIP who got a bomber not named the BUFF. Now he rains hate here. That guy's callsign isn't something you can buy at Home Depot, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Well that narrows it down.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyU2 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) . It's the kind of buffoonery that runs rampant at that base squadron. Don't throw our squadrons into this generalization. Life if good over here, thanks in large part to our squadron leadership. Edited March 12, 2014 by Huggyu2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak47 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 That guy's callsign isn't something you can buy at Home Depot, is it? A storage unit for several individual implements with which one would perform household maintenance duties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinner Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 How's that working telling O-5's no as an O-3? I did it, and got my ass handed to me. However, I earned the respect of a lot of people that day. I'd do it again in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Hungus Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 The shit of it is that there's a distinct possibility he was at one time in your squadron as a T-6 FAIP who got a bomber not named the BUFF. Now he rains hate here. Save this email, and be sure to forward it on to wherever he tries to go next- school/guard/reserves/airlines/walmart/whatever. Karma's a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitteEinBit Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 That guy's callsign isn't something you can buy at Home Depot, is it? They sell douchebags at Home Depot? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetfreezer Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 A storage unit for several individual implements with which one would perform household maintenance duties? Nailed it...good to see he's built as much credibility there as in the Bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 What a total asshole. If an ADO, who is a Major, sent this out in our squadron he would be hated from that point forward and would get every single bad deal that could be given. He's in an MC-12 squadron...I think he's already been given every bad deal his previous squadron could find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-21.Pilot Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Nailed it...good to see he's built as much credibility there as in the Bone. Why so secretive -- why not simply post it here and let the Bro Network take effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Pipes Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I saw the original e-mail (I have not connection to the Bone, T-6 FAIPs or MC-12s... good news obviously travels fast since I got a copy the day he sent it); both his Sq CC and DO were CC'd on the e-mail... interested to hear what (if anything) they had to say about it. That would be very telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunes Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 THIS is what's wrong with the AF. From a MC-12 squadron. If six on, six off deployment cycle wasn't bad enough; now pre-deployment leave is not allowed outside of the local area and sex life must be coordinated with the ADO. Subject: Outlining expectations and policy XXXXXX, A couple of recent incidents are prompting this squadron advisory email so please read and heed. 1. Leave beyond the local area WILL NOT be approved after BDOS. Local area is somewhat subjective but if you can't be recalled to the squadron within 2 hours then you will probably be denied. This is completely subject to my discretion so please be ready to explain your leave plan to me prior to approval. If I approve your local area leave and you have uncompleted pre-deployment prep or job related handoff then expect your leave to be cancelled at anytime. 2. Take charge of your deployment and major life events. Babies generally require 9-10 months to be fully operational post merge. There is plenty of time for you and your wife to execute the merge, deploy and return for your baby's solo flight. If you choose to advise me of your upcoming major life event with less than 7.5 months notice then you are failing to take charge of your deployment and are completely at my mercy. If you can't plan for your own future I have no pity. Come talk to me and I will help you evaluate your options. Bottom line, waive your dwell, deploy and return in time for your major life event and you have taken charge of your life and your wife and country will celebrate your sacrifice. If you desire to acquire a wife/husband with which to execute the merge then you should also consider taking charge of your major life event in a similar fashion. I am quickly becoming the evil and soulless field grade officer that the Air Force desires. XXXXXXXXXX, Maj, USAF XXX RS Assistant Director of Operations Beale AFB, CA came here to post this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10percenttruth Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 As for the DO comment...did you know that ACC has an experiment going where we pick Majors to be DO's now? I know of 3 "selected" individuals to fill that billet. Not the brightest idea I've ever heard, but I'm sure there are O-4's in the Air Force that are up for the task. It's not just ACC, that thought experiment is spreading to AFGSC as well. I think of it as a lead-turn to the mass exodus when there will be no one left to man the DO/ADO shops but Captains & Majors. However, that's giving a lot of credit where little is due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAR Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 2. Take charge of your deployment and major life events. Babies generally require 9-10 months to be fully operational post merge. There is plenty of time for you and your wife to execute the merge, deploy and return for your baby's solo flight. If you choose to advise me of your upcoming major life event with less than 7.5 months notice then you are failing to take charge of your deployment and are completely at my mercy. If you can't plan for your own future I have no pity. Come talk to me and I will help you evaluate your options. Bottom line, waive your dwell, deploy and return in time for your major life event and you have taken charge of your life and your wife and country will celebrate your sacrifice. If you desire to acquire a wife/husband with which to execute the merge then you should also consider taking charge of your major life event in a similar fashion. I am quickly becoming the evil and soulless field grade officer that the Air Force desires. XXXXXXXXXX, Maj, USAF ### RS Assistant Director of Operations Beale AFB, CA Someone who points with their elbows please translate this to English. I'm so confused and may up this guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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