pawnman Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 I'm too lazy to go dig up the report (I think it may have been mentioned earlier in the thread), but the whole situation was an absolute clown show. The training in question was supposed to be related to AE's job....which as you might expect has nothing to do with hostage negotiation or rescue. Someone with rank had a good idea fairy moment and decided that the training needed "plussing up," so they directed a couple of (I'm assuming Med Group) CGOs and SNCOs who were in charge of the training syllabus to basically call an audible on the last day of training. The CGOs/SNCOs in question had something like less than 24 hours to come up with the "plussing up" of the training. The CGOs/SNCOs had zero training on any real training development process, much less something as fluid as a hostage negotiation and/or rescue, so they were basically winging it. They came up with a plan that involved a climax featuring driving a Humvee in close proximity to a whole bunch of people (my memory is fuzzy but I think it was something about the hostage takers driving into the compound to deliver the hostage back to US forces or something). Unsurprisingly, the mixture of untrained individuals operating heavy equipment in close proximity to a gaggle of personnel in a scenario that was not well designed and loosely controlled resulted in something getting out of whack and someone getting run over. BL the Col in question is probably lucky that no one preferred charges against her because the situation leading up to the death of the SSgt was some serious dereliction of duty shit. The fact that no one had the sense to call knock it off at any point in the process reflects pretty poorly on everyone involved. Why court martial the Col, when you can court martial the CGO who came up with the scenario at the Col's request?
SurelySerious Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 It's not entirely analogous to the AF and AFPC since we're more like inmates than customers, but crose enough. Interesting that behavioral science considerations are fairly high on some corporations' list in customer retention. The Rise of the Chief Behavioral [science] Officerhttps://recode.net/2015/01/28/the-rise-of-the-chief-behavioral-officer/?trending=yes
Mikey Donuts Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 When I become a farmer several years from now I'm going to set aside room for a handsome young boar even though I won't really need him. I'm going to pump most of my time and money into him even though he won't perform nearly as well as the older boars on the farm (they'll need to be sold or slaughtered). I'm going to feed this bastard as much as possible so that he'll barely be able to waddle his fat ass around the farm. He won't even be able to make bacon with the lady pigs. But damn it all, he'll be a pretty pig and I'm going to keep his beautiful, sorry ass around and lose most of my money doing so. And all of the other animals on the farm, and my family, will suffer because of my stubbornness and stupidity. This pig will named "Lighting II". I'd also like to create my own original breed of pig. I'm going to ask all of the experienced farmers in my area about what characteristics would be the best to strive for. In the end though, I'm still me and I'll ignore centuries of experience. When I'm finished I'll have created a pig that looks beautiful on the outside but will have major problems like not having an asshole. "Who would have thought a pig would eventually need to shit?" I'll incredulously say. The experienced farmers, that's who. I'll sink a ton of time and money into this pig as well. And more suffering will ensue. I'll call this pig "Pegasus". It sure is tough to make a living by being a farmer. 2
sqwatch Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 When I become a farmer several years from now I'm going to set aside room for a handsome young boar even though I won't really need him. I'm going to pump most of my time and money into him even though he won't perform nearly as well as the older boars on the farm (they'll need to be sold or slaughtered). I'm going to feed this bastard as much as possible so that he'll barely be able to waddle his fat ass around the farm. He won't even be able to make bacon with the lady pigs. But damn it all, he'll be a pretty pig and I'm going to keep his beautiful, sorry ass around and lose most of my money doing so. And all of the other animals on the farm, and my family, will suffer because of my stubbornness and stupidity. This pig will named "Lighting II". I'd also like to create my own original breed of pig. I'm going to ask all of the experienced farmers in my area about what characteristics would be the best to strive for. In the end though, I'm still me and I'll ignore centuries of experience. When I'm finished I'll have created a pig that looks beautiful on the outside but will have major problems like not having an asshole. "Who would have thought a pig would eventually need to shit?" I'll incredulously say. The experienced farmers, that's who. I'll sink a ton of time and money into this pig as well. And more suffering will ensue. I'll call this pig "Pegasus". It sure is tough to make a living by being a farmer. Drink much? 2
Lord Ratner Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 Drink much? He's like that normally. And if you're implying you don't want to visit said farm with said pigs living on it, you sir are a liar.
sky_king Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 A pig without an asshole? My 8-year-old self back in 1990 would appreciate this. Much less mess to clean out of then barn.
sqwatch Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 From the book I'm reading, "the happiness hypothesis"- "In another famous study, Ellen Langer and Judith Rodin gave benefits to residents on two floors of a nursing home—for example, plants in their rooms, and a movie screening one night a week. But on one floor, these benefits came with a sense of control: The residents were allowed to choose which plants they wanted, and they were responsible for watering them. They were allowed to choose as a group which night would be movie night. On the other floor, the same benefits were simply doled out: The nurses chose the plants and watered them; the nurses decided which night was movie night. This small manipulation had big effects: On the floor with increased control, residents were happier, more active, and more alert (as rated by the nurses, not just by the residents), and these benefits were still visible eighteen months later. Most amazingly, at the eighteen-month follow-up, residents of the floor given control had better health and half as many deaths (15 percent versus 30 percent).40 In a review paper that Rodin and I wrote, we concluded that changing an institution’s environment to increase the sense of control among its workers, students, patients, or other users was one of the most effective possible ways to increase their sense of engagement, energy, and happiness." Wasn't sure if I should put this here or the ACP thread.
HU&W Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 The AF has released its stressed career fields list. It's a little funny how many of these were also VSP eligible just a few months ago. Stressed officer career fields: 11H Rescue Pilot. 11R Reconnaissance /Surveillance/Electronic Warfare Pilot. 11S Special Operations Pilot. 12M Mobility Combat Systems Officer. 13C Special Tactics Officer. 13D Combat Rescue Officer. 13L Air Liaison Officer. 18X Remotely Piloted Aircraft Pilot. 64P Contracting Officer.
Champ Kind Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) stressed career fields [*]12M Mobility Combat Systems Officer.Are you fucking kidding me? Edited February 11, 2015 by Champ Kind 1
discus Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 The AF has released its stressed career fields list. It's a little funny how many of these were also VSP eligible just a few months ago. Stressed officer career fields: 11H Rescue Pilot.11R Reconnaissance /Surveillance/Electronic Warfare Pilot.11S Special Operations Pilot.12M Mobility Combat Systems Officer.13C Special Tactics Officer.13D Combat Rescue Officer.13L Air Liaison Officer.18X Remotely Piloted Aircraft Pilot.64P Contracting Officer. 12M. For the Nav on the 135????? They have like four of them at Wichita, right?
Chicken Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 The AF has released its stressed career fields list. It's a little funny how many of these were also VSP eligible just a few months ago. Stressed officer career fields: 11H Rescue Pilot. 11R Reconnaissance /Surveillance/Electronic Warfare Pilot. 11S Special Operations Pilot. 12M Mobility Combat Systems Officer. 13C Special Tactics Officer. 13D Combat Rescue Officer. 13L Air Liaison Officer. 18X Remotely Piloted Aircraft Pilot. 64P Contracting Officer. How often is this list updated? Is this what is taken into account for continuation?
Butters Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) 12M. For the Nav on the 135????? They have like four of them at Wichita, right? Yes, the 4 of them are very stressed. Also do not forget the 4 at Andrrews on the VC-25. Edited February 11, 2015 by Butters
McDonut Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 I doubt it would be underwhelming, but it would be expensive. But why are we using F15/16/18 to do what an AT-38 can do? Aren't they footing the bill for the F22?
matmacwc Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 I doubt it would be underwhelming, but it would be expensive. But why are we using F15/16/18 to do what an AT-38 can do? Aren't they footing the bill for the F22? You need more than a radar reflector, the bad guys shoot back.
McDonut Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 Can data link be added to simulate it? It looks like they need Mach 1+ too, not sure how they'd get around that. If we need it now, then we should do T38s. Or we could pay the Canadians or Brits to fly aggressor full time until we can sort out the pipeline mess. Congress wouldn't like that last option, though.
zrooster99 Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 The AF has released its stressed career fields list. It's a little funny how many of these were also VSP eligible just a few months ago. Stressed officer career fields: 11H Rescue Pilot.11R Reconnaissance /Surveillance/Electronic Warfare Pilot.11S Special Operations Pilot. 11S, huh?
SurelySerious Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 11S, huh? Weird that 11SF didn't make the list. I thought they'd be hurting.
zrooster99 Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Weird that 11SF didn't make the list. I thought they'd be hurting. Special ops fighter pilot? 2
Clark Griswold Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Good blog post on this subject (but pointed specifically at the DoD). Why does the military grow? Because the tail wags the dog. It references a 1955 article that is still available from The Economist. “It is a commonplace observation that work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion.” — Opening sentence of “Parkinson’s Law“, C. Northcote Parkinson, The Economist, 19 November 1955. He describes Britain’s creation of “a magnificent Navy on land” to replace its fleet. History not repeating but rhyming quite nicely.
McDonut Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Where's 11U on that list? Not sure how 11R is stressed, unless someone miscategorized 11 assets as 11R. Or the list is ancient and still accounts for unfilled MC-12 billets.
GKinnear Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Where's 11U on that list? Not sure how 11R is stressed, unless someone miscategorized 11 assets as 11R. Or the list is ancient and still accounts for unfilled MC-12 billets. 11U is folded under the umbrella 18X term. All equally RPA pilots, and still managed by the same porch...just some pilots are more equal than others
Prosuper Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I'm a old timer and remember strippers and getting drunk at the club and looking forward of going to the club at quitting time having a drink with my boss blowing off steam as long as I was buying the round. https://taskandpurpose.com/military-overkilled-alcohol-big-collateral-damage/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=tp-facebook&utm_campaign=culture
StoleIt Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I'm a old timer and remember strippers and getting drunk at the club and looking forward of going to the club at quitting time having a drink with my boss blowing off steam as long as I was buying the round. https://taskandpurpose.com/military-overkilled-alcohol-big-collateral-damage/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=tp-facebook&utm_campaign=culture That sounds nice. And I don't think I'll ever experience that in my career.
Duck Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Why would you want to? Now we get SARC briefings and Fitness assessment cells! 1
TreeA10 Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Friday night bar Olympics. Shame it's gone.
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