Fuzz Posted May 30, 2015 Posted May 30, 2015 The McChord VML list came out today, 8 RPAs alone, 50% of the assignments (rest white jets).
Jaded Posted May 30, 2015 Posted May 30, 2015 Apparently, the last viper VML had > 50% of those eligible elect to 7 day opt.
Herkasaurus Posted May 30, 2015 Posted May 30, 2015 The McChord VML list came out today, 8 RPAs alone, 50% of the assignments (rest white jets). AMC wide I suppose...KLRF just dropped 9 ish RPAs.
Motofalcon Posted May 30, 2015 Posted May 30, 2015 Apparently, the last viper VML had > 50% of those eligible elect to 7 day opt. Yeah, wanna know why? Because dudes are seeing the writing on the wall. The VML just prior to the last one (the spring 15) was a bloodbath; out of about 160 pilots on that VML (obviously not all currently in the cockpit - staff returns, etc), guess how many ops to ops assignments there were, as in going from a 3 year tour to another 3 year tour. Just guess. One. One ops to ops in the entire VML (and that includes going to teach at the b course). About 20 guys got to go to Korea, so about 20 left and if they were first assignment Korea guys they obviously got to stay in the jet. Everyone else? AETC tours teaching UPT or PIT (including PIT assignments following UPT - not a two plus two, but two full AETC assignments in a row), staff gigs, A29s, etc. So when the community hears the AF crying about this major 11F/viper pilot shortage, but then nobody gets to actually stay in the jet (did have some guys go from Kunsan to Osan because it was the only way to stay in) dudes are bailing. Which I totally understand, because for a guy/gal to bust their ass for the 3 years it takes just to get to MQT, then work for 3 years in the sq, to then get nothing for it and face a career of 11F "required" assignments that aren't in the F16 - why would you stay? *The most recent VML wasn't as bad as that one, but the porch is still telling us that expect only one pilot per base to go ops to ops, everyone else gets non-viper assignments. So the outlook is not very good, and folks in the community are tired of being told the AF needs them so badly, but then figuring out it isn't in the jet.
RTB Posted May 30, 2015 Posted May 30, 2015 ...out of about 160 pilots on that VML ... One ops to ops in the entire VML (and that includes going to teach at the b course).... Damn. Those are downright terrible stats. Anyone know the number or percentage of non-flying "11F required" billets vs. 11F flying billets? Seems like the ratio just keeps getting worse...
McDonut Posted May 30, 2015 Posted May 30, 2015 So when the community hears the AF crying about this major 11F/viper pilot shortage, but then nobody gets to actually stay in the jet (did have some guys go from Kunsan to Osan because it was the only way to stay in) dudes are bailing. Which I totally understand, because for a guy/gal to bust their ass for the 3 years it takes just to get to MQT, then work for 3 years in the sq, to then get nothing for it and face a career of 11F "required" assignments that aren't in the F16 - why would you stay? Personnel mismanagement seems to be a common theme across the Air Force. It's not AFPC's job to be fair, but when they it up so badly that almost everyone wants to leave it becomes an issue. At least 11F isn't under the pred gun. The McChord VML list came out today, 8 RPAs alone, 50% of the assignments (rest white jets). MC-12 had about the same on the fall vml (had almost 40 RPAs drop in one week). Not sure if the remaining pilots have received assignments yet.
Bender Posted May 30, 2015 Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) MC-12 had about the same on the fall vml (had almost 40 RPAs drop in one week). Not sure if the remaining pilots have received assignments yet. Very soon; expect the number to be closer to 30% than 50% for the remaining MC-12 personnel. The 11F community stepping back from filling white jets will alter the situation slightly. Bendy Edited May 30, 2015 by Bender
MD Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) True. I guess compared to the other options it was the only one non costal so I was confused. Already tried that. AZ Guard initially thought of going to Luke before DM; wing there didn't want the RPA mission there, even though it was only MCE ops. Luke is ok. for the west side. Willie was where it was at back in the day. Next to Mather, was the best ATC base around. Edited May 31, 2015 by MD
12xu2a3x3 Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) AZ Guard initially thought of going to Luke before DM; wing there didn't want the RPA mission there, even though it was only MCE ops. that's a better mentality than ten years ago, when for example, the PA guard played a weak hand and lost when trying to avoid C-12s/C-27s. they ended up with a UAV MCE only. sorry MX technicians kick rocks, go work for DCMA. Edited May 31, 2015 by 12xu2a3x3
dvlax40 Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 Next to Mather, was the best ATC base around. Good god so the stories from my childhood about Mather were true? Haha
MD Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 Good god so the stories from my childhood about Mather were true? Haha Yup. Mather's club made the Auger look like a Denny's, just with an underground location.
sqwatch Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 At least 11F isn't under the pred gun. take a look at this VML's fighter bills, you will be unpleasantly supprised.
pawnman Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 take a look at this VML's fighter bills, you will be unpleasantly supprised. "We're so short on fighter pilots we can't man all the cockpits" "Let's send all the fighter pilots to UAVs!" And big AF wonders why no one trusts the system anymore.
Cap-10 Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 https://www.blockedhats.com/ Make the bad man stop!!! Cap-10
Chida Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 DOOOOD! People actually pay $60 for that sheet! End up looking like a gendarme.
HU&W Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 https://www.blockedhats.com/ Make the bad man stop!!! Cap-10 Can I get that in a flight cap?
zrooster99 Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 https://www.blockedhats.com/ Make the bad man stop!!! Cap-10 Looks like shit...but then so do the ABUS...looks better with a little crush on it...
Majestik Møøse Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 People go nuts with ABU mods. Creasing the sleeves is step 1, followed shortly by sticking shit in the hats to make them stiffer. Then the real insanity begins. "I don't put anything in these shirt pockets, so I'll sew them shut! And on the pants too, that'll be real high speed!" Next is buying a coffee can hat I guess. But the real crazy one, the one that shows you've lost all normal human reasoning, is sewing down the collar all the way around the neck. I've only seen it once, but it was heinous. Looked like one of those shitty 3d video game characters from ADLS. 1
guineapigfury Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 People go nuts with ABU mods. Creasing the sleeves is step 1, followed shortly by sticking shit in the hats to make them stiffer. Then the real insanity begins. "I don't put anything in these shirt pockets, so I'll sew them shut! And on the pants too, that'll be real high speed!" Next is buying a coffee can hat I guess. But the real crazy one, the one that shows you've lost all normal human reasoning, is sewing down the collar all the way around the neck. I've only seen it once, but it was heinous. Looked like one of those shitty 3d video game characters from ADLS. I bet it was the guy who steals your govt phone in the cyberawareness one. 1
Disregard Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 I thought that ABUs were "wash and wear." A quick Google search even claims that "starching and hot pressing of ABUs is prohibited." Is that valid?
zrooster99 Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 I've only seen it once, but it was heinous. Looked like one of those shitty 3d video game characters from ADLS. Maybe that's what they want... Become the CBT!
17D_guy Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 I thought that ABUs were "wash and wear." A quick Google search even claims that "starching and hot pressing of ABUs is prohibited." Is that valid? Christ on a pony, I'm starting to have this argument with "high speed" Airmen and Lt's. Would be nice if the CMSAF didn't look like he shaves with this damn stripes. I'm sure he just "bought it that way." I don't like the rim of my cap folded in, so I straighten by hand when I put it on. But those frenchified caps look live vomit. Ugh... It's amazing how the AF can't write a fucking regulation that isn't ambiguous, even when leadership said repeatedly during phase in what the goal for this was - Per 36-2903 - 5.1... Light ironing and center creasing of enlisted chevrons is authorized; however, repeated hot pressing or heavy ironing will accelerate the overall wear of the fabric. Per the label on the inside of the "blouse" I'm wearing - 5. If needed, use light pressing. DO NOT COMMERCIAL HOT PRESS. That's right, the label on the inside of the uniform is more directive than the AF regulation. When can us Cyber Ops folks have flight suits so we can step away from this bullshit "uniform"?
Champ Kind Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 His legendary douchebaggery poisoned a generation of Herk drivers. The best thing that could happen as a result of his toxic leadership is for those that were forced to serve under him to use him as an example of what not to be.
guineapigfury Posted June 1, 2015 Posted June 1, 2015 Rhatigan is retired effective today. This isn't the "What's right with the Air Force" thread. 1
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