What's wrong with the Air Force?

[cantfly]

7 minutes ago, Guardian said:

This stuff is falling exactly in line with the title of the post. I bet a lot of shit would get worked out if we were physically in the same place with some beers and zero retribution. People are afraid to fight but not afraid to post anonymous stuff. And regardless of which side you're on, we all let it happen.


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A man speaking the truth...word.

[Toro]

All bitches, dudes, bros, FGOs and wiggers go back to your corners.  cantfly is in time out, redirect all bitching towards the AF.

[Guest]

All bitches, dudes, bros, FGOs and wiggers go back to your corners.  cantfly is in time out, redirect all bitching towards the AF.

I wonder what his new screen name is going to be. It'll be easy enough to ID him. He'll be the guy liking his own posts and disliking anyone who offends his tender sensibilities.


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[Guest]

Back to the topic, I think the AF really needs to stop picking future GOs on the basis of early "excellence." There are probably a handful of bros who land SOS DG, but I imagine they're in the minority and probably most punch out and never make it to any position of influence to enact change. We keep promoting yes-men who would never dare to challenge the status quo.


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[Guardian]

Back to the topic, I think the AF really needs to stop picking future GOs on the basis of early "excellence." There are probably a handful of bros who land SOS DG, but I imagine they're in the minority and probably most punch out and never make it to any position of influence to enact change. We keep promoting yes-men who would never dare to challenge the status quo.


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The Peter principle. Read the fogleman chat posts.


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[Weezer]

18 minutes ago, ihtfp06 said:

Back to the topic, I think the AF really needs to stop picking future GOs on the basis of early "excellence." There are probably a handful of bros who land SOS DG, but I imagine they're in the minority and probably most punch out and never make it to any position of influence to enact change. We keep promoting yes-men who would never dare to challenge the status quo.


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I think evidence of risking one's professional advancement to do the right thing should be required.  Looking into flag officers generally regarded as "great:"

As a captain, MacArthur had his first Medal of Honor denied because his boss didn't know what he was doing.  As a captain, Eisenhower was threatened with court martial for aggressively advocating tank-centric tactics that looked a lot like Germany's successful blitzkreig scheme.  Nimitz was court-martialed as an ensign for running his ship aground.  George Washington gave advice to his general in the French and Indian War that essentially got him killed.

Mistakes and risks are what make a leader better, and should be forgiven (when they aren't crimes, of course), and rewarded (when appropriate).  Most importantly, they should be learned from.

[Stoker]

1 hour ago, Weezer said:

As a captain, MacArthur had his first Medal of Honor denied because his boss didn't know what he was doing.

Off topic, but do people really think MacArthur was a great general? He let basically the entire Far East Air Force get destroyed on the ground by the Japanese, ten hours after the attack on Pearl Harbor. He won victories later in the war, sure, but they were victories won with numerical superiority and an overwhelming material advantage.

[Guardian]

Squirrel!


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[Weezer]

37 minutes ago, sforron said:

Off topic, but do people really think MacArthur was a great general? He let basically the entire Far East Air Force get destroyed on the ground by the Japanese, ten hours after the attack on Pearl Harbor. He won victories later in the war, sure, but they were victories won with numerical superiority and an overwhelming material advantage.

10 hours was a pretty short time in those days...might as well have been simultaneous.

My point isn't how great he was, but that the system promoted him despite an earlier "blemish."

[Hacker]

Toro, I don't know how you still manage to give a fuck about this monkeyshit fighting.

[M2]

Admin Note: You may have noticed the removal of 35 off-topic posts in this thread.  Sorry if yours was one of them, but it either was offending or quoted an offending post.

As Toro stated, our instigator has been put in the corner and if/when he returns to the conversation, his comments will be moderated before showing up. 

Sorry for the interruption, please continue on with the (somewhat) productive discussion...

[Guardian]

Wahoo! It wasn't me this time!


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[war007afa]

4 hours ago, Toro said:

All bitches, dudes, bros, FGOs and wiggers go back to your corners.  cantfly is in time out, redirect all bitching towards the AF.

Summation:

[brickhistory]

I learned something today about baseops during the recent shenigans on this thread prior to them being wiped:

You can only give four (4) feedbacks on any one (1) day.

I was going to town on the buffoonery of the NSA expert and got the notification.

Thanks, baseops!

[matmacwc]

Censorship!!!  Commie bastards.  My popcorn GIF was epic.

[Day Man]

4 hours ago, M2 said:

Admin Note: You may have noticed the removal of 35 off-topic posts in this thread.  Sorry if yours was one of them, but it either was offending or quoted an offending post.

As Toro stated, our instigator has been put in the corner and if/when he returns to the conversation, his comments will be moderated before showing up. 

Sorry for the interruption, please continue on with the (somewhat) productive discussion...

I have a very important question: what happens to the fake internet points, because I had like 3 on a post that got deleted...

[Guardian]

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[Toro]

13 hours ago, Hacker said:

Toro, I don't know how you still manage to give a fuck about this monkeyshit fighting.

Much more of a passive observer these days, but said offender aggravated enough people to get the thread reported to all the mods.

[BFM this]

1 hour ago, Toro said:

Much more of a passive observer these days, but said offender aggravated enough people to get the thread reported to all the mods.

Go big or go home...?

[nsplayr]

1 hour ago, BFM this said:

Go big or go home...?

Looks like he choose both!

[M2]

On 5/4/2017 at 7:39 PM, Day Man said:

I have a very important question: what happens to the fake internet points, because I had like 3 on a post that got deleted...

I will kindly reinstate the three points you lost back to your total, plus ten more for your trouble! 

[schokie]

I hate being late to the party. I obviously missed something exciting, but now it's all gone and I'll never know. That's what I get for not checking this thread more often. 

[panchbarnes]

1 hour ago, schokie said:

I hate being late to the party. I obviously missed something exciting, but now it's all gone and I'll never know. That's what I get for not checking this thread more often. 

 

it was a classified pissing contest and you don't have the need to know...

[FUSEPLUG]

40 minutes ago, panchbarnes said:

 

it was a classified pissing contest and you don't have the need to know...

...unless you work fort the NSA.  Then you can "go to the vault, dude."

 

[HU&W]

4 hours ago, schokie said:

I hate being late to the party. I obviously missed something exciting, but now it's all gone and I'll never know. That's what I get for not checking this thread more often. 

You didn't miss anything.  Just another scoobs.