What's wrong with the Air Force?

[LookieRookie]

The Reserves are a little behind the power curve. We're currently getting manpower studies/updated UMDs that move the CSSs to the group level. Oh and SQ/CCs lost their secretaries! Wahoo!

[Bode]

The Reserves are a little behind the power curve. We're currently getting manpower studies/updated UMDs that move the CSSs to the group level. Oh and SQ/CCs lost their secretaries! Wahoo!

Pretty sure active duty has already said man power study. We moved CSSs to the group back in 06 at Spangdahlem as a test. Of course though we probably have no record of it either.


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[SuperWSO]

41 minutes ago, Lstcause257 said:

 Of course though we probably have no record of it either.


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No shit, the CSS was probably the records manager, maintainer of file plans!  The history of the test was rejected at the Group for formatting and punctuation errors in paragraph one and returned to the SQ CSS after they left town.

[skibum]

8 hours ago, Azimuth said:

I think the mods should move this to the WTF thread. At least everyone at Boeing has the option to quit, and Rhat can't fire them without cause.

[dream big]

9 hours ago, Azimuth said:

Oh holy hell.  Little Rock AFB's morale is still recovering from this piece of work.  He is everything that was toxic in the AF.  I remember IPs were terrified of air dropping because a bad bomb board would be preceded with a trip to ole Rhat 

[FourFans]

Azimuth, you everyone beer for posting that picture.

Good riddance!

You might as well have posted a picture of this guy.

(DISCLAIMER: If you were in the 41 AS in the 2008-2009 time frame, don't click that link, you already know who it is.)

 

FF

Edited May 26, 2017 by FourFans130

[Azimuth]

1 hour ago, FourFans130 said:

Azimuth, you everyone beer for posting that picture.

Good riddance!

You might as well have posted a picture of this guy.

(DISCLAIMER: If you were in the 41 AS in the 2008-2009 time frame, don't click that link, you already know who it is.)

 

FF

Rat was my CC twice. He's by far the worst. Only guy that might come close is Ole 777.

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[FourFans]

33 minutes ago, Azimuth said:

Rat was my CC twice. He's by far the worst. Only guy that might come close is Ole 777.

Ouch!  Well done hanging tough through that!

[HuggyU2]

Posted so you can "friend him"...

https://www.facebook.com/colonelpatrickjrhatigan

Of course, once you do, drop him a note and say hi.  

[hatedont]

6 hours ago, Azimuth said:

Rat was my CC twice. He's by far the worst. Only guy that might come close is Ole 777.

FYI:My years might be a little off. I wasn't in the 40 AS. But I heard their CC from 2009-11 was a piece of work.  The Gp/CC didn't hesitate to remove her and there wasn't any PC about removing a female. She dug her grave on a unit deployment. Never seen a CC removed so fast.

Edited May 26, 2017 by hatedont

[polcat]

1 hour ago, hatedont said:

FYI:My years might be a little off. I wasn't in the 40 AS. But I heard their CC from 2009-11 was a piece of work. The The Gp/CC didn't hesitate to remove her and there wasn't any PC about removing a female. She dug her grave on a unit deployment. Never seen a CC removed so fast.

That was a very interesting time in the 317th. The 40th was blessed with a great commander after her. He was our deployed DO and our saving grace in the desert but was pulled home early because of this.

[hatedont]

3 minutes ago, polcat said:

That was a very interesting time in the 317th. The 40th was blessed with a great commander after her. He was our deployed DO and our saving grace in the desert but was pulled home early because of this.

Someone told me it was over a closet in the squadron the GP/CC wanted cleaned out. Making dumb decisions while deployed seemed more or less like the truth. What was the low down?

[Weezer]

Just going to put this here for your amusement.

[LookieRookie]

1 hour ago, Weezer said:

Just going to put this here for your amusement.

Unless it's on a contract counter signed by AFPC/CC I don't believe it.

[Weezer]

4 minutes ago, LookieRookie said:

Unless it's on a contract counter signed by AFPC/CC I don't believe it.

Not sure I would trust it even then:  was on a 365 back in the early days with about 120 others.  AFPC/CC at the time came out and was "so impressed," that he personally guaranteed we could have any assignment we wanted afterwards.  He went so far as to say he would move people out of jobs to get us where we wanted to go.

Needless to say, he issued a correction a few weeks later to say that AFPC would "do their best" to get us where we wanted to go.

[17D_guy]

1 hour ago, Weezer said:

Just going to put this here for your amusement.

"Officers and enlisted airmen who volunteer for an extended 365-day deployment can, if eligible, apply for either an advanced assignment or a two-year deferment from a permanent change of station."

Love that caveat.  Of course, this won't mention the promotion impacts since now we can't move you to that GO exec job, or staff somewhere, to "groom you."

[hatedont]

42 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

"Officers and enlisted airmen who volunteer for an extended 365-day deployment can, if eligible, apply for either an advanced assignment or a two-year deferment from a permanent change of station."

Love that caveat.  Of course, this won't mention the promotion impacts since now we can't move you to that GO exec job, or staff somewhere, to "groom you."

Don't fall for it. I was BTZ to SrA and made SSgt my first time. I pinned on SSgt a few weeks after leaving Korea. Tons of awards under my belt. After Korea you are supposed to receive your assignment of preference. I listed all the options overseas I could think of guys. They came back with Beale. My CMSgt and everyone else was like Nooooo... don't go there. This was back in 2000 when Lincoln and Roseville were probably small communities if they existed at all. I tell assignments to go kick rocks, so they come back with San Antonio. Really? I had lived in Texas for most of my whole damn life. It didn't matter because I had received my SOAR scholarship to AFROTC a few weeks before. They cut me orders from Osan direct to AFROTC to be a cadet. But guess what my ex girlfriend at the time left Korea for an assignment in Hawaii. 

DO NOT TRUST AFPC! You will go from a 365 to Cannon AFB or Grand Damn Forks. I will tell everyone under me don't be the sacrificial lamb.

Edited May 26, 2017 by hatedont

[Guest]

Unless it's on a contract counter signed by AFPC/CC I don't believe it.

They'll only make the offer available when the current AFPC/CC only has 364 or fewer days left on the job. This way, his successor can refuse to honor the agreement.


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[Bode]

I put in my 365 follow on assignment request. It bounced around the assignments team for about 3 months then was returned stating they would only work my assignment once my wife received one. The big gotcha with that I'm an O and my wife's an E. so really she should be getting her assignment based on mine. Also she can go to basically any USAF base so that's not an issue.


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[ClearedHot]

[MooseAg03]

I wonder if upper management realizes that almost any new "policy" they dream up to help retain people will be instantly discounted due to their lack of integrity in past dealings. I think it will probably be close to a decade (only with improved treatment and showing they can actually do what they say) before any of these policies positively affect retention.

They require 24 months TOS upon re-deployment and then 36 prior to PCS, sounds like a back door way to get an extra year.


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[Inertia17]

Unnecessary Deployments

Perhaps they are paying some attention. Who knows if anything will actually come of it though.

Edited May 26, 2017 by Inertia17

[hatedont]

58 minutes ago, Inertia17 said:

Unnecessary Deployments

Perhaps they are paying some attention. Who knows if anything will actually come of it though.

Call me dumb. But deployment requirements would vanquish if the AF figured out WTF we are still doing in Afghanistan. Say we annihilate ISIS in Syria/Iraq. They are still going to want people over there to offset popup ISIS groups, Syria, and Iran. You cant kill a group of roaches and not think they didn't lay eggs to ensure they continue to exist. I'm done with the stupidity we call policy.

I've seen countless members of  the Taliban die. Yet, they have come roaring back because they have always had a ton of support. I remember a high ranking officer telling me in 2010 ANA would fail. People in the government are helping the Taliban but we continue to act like we know everything. You can't win continuously playing patty cake with someone.

A. You either have to go all in with your air and land forces and allow no media into the country. 

B. STFU and leave the country.

Option B is more likely.

 

Edited May 26, 2017 by hatedont

[Azimuth]

10 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

Posted so you can "friend him"...

https://www.facebook.com/colonelpatrickjrhatigan

Of course, once you do, drop him a note and say hi.  

When he was a Sq/CC at KSKA, he would print out your emails, call you in his office, and berate you about your poor grammar and not knowing your past participles or whatever. Of course he was an English major at the Zoo and SECAF speech writer.

He also hated being included in Sq wide emails. So you would have to click the plus sign in email distro address and remove him, as the Sq/CC, or he'd call you in his office and berate you about "spamming his inbox."

Good riddance

Edited May 26, 2017 by Azimuth

[Weezer]

2 hours ago, Inertia17 said:

Unnecessary Deployments

Perhaps they are paying some attention. Who knows if anything will actually come of it though.

A lot of what they're promising has more to do with combatant commanders, component commands (e.g., AFCENT), Joint Staff, and SecDef.  These aren't things the A3 can just decree away.

Granted, the CSAF may have administrative influence over the AF component commanders for the COCOMs, it's not as simple as just telling AFCENT to stop asking for rated staff.