What's wrong with the Air Force?

[hatedont]

When did CFPS and Falcon View get put on the commies cannot load list? One of my Lts told me this the other day. He was told the software is outdated and cannot be loaded on any computers. I just came from a base using the software.

I'm done, going to put my application in for the Space Corps.  https://spacenews.com/rogers-calls-for-separate-space-corps-within-the-air-force/

Edited May 27, 2017 by hatedont

[Blue]

I'm not a Boeing guy, but I've bounced around the Aerospace and Defense industry for awhile.  This job title and job description sounds like something you'd see someone with a Marketing degree and 10 years of experience doing.  Certainly not a retired O-6.

Maybe there is justice in the world.....

[Champ Kind]

When he was a Sq/CC at KSKA, he would print out your emails, call you in his office, and berate you about your poor grammar and not knowing your past participles or whatever. Of course he was an English major at the Zoo and SECAF speech writer.
He also hated being included in Sq wide emails. So you would have to click the plus sign in email distro address and remove him, as the Sq/CC, or he'd call you in his office and berate you about "spamming his inbox."
Good riddance

I'm in no way defending Rhat's douchiness, but I've seen some pretty dumb Sq/All emails.

[Fuzz]

5 hours ago, hatedont said:

When did CFPS and Falcon View get put on the commies cannot load list? One of my Lts told me this the other day. He was told the software is outdated and cannot be loaded on any computers. I just came from a base using the software. I'm done, going to put my application in for the Space Corps.  https://spacenews.com/rogers-calls-for-separate-space-corps-within-the-air-force/

I keep hearing that CFPS is supposed to be going away sometime this year and being replaced by JUMPs. My base is still using CFP.

[hatedont]

21 minutes ago, Fuzz said:

I keep hearing that CFPS is supposed to be going away sometime this year and being replaced by JUMPs. My base is still using CFP.

We were told no soup for us. The Lt asked about JUMPs too. 

[dream big]

6 hours ago, hatedont said:

When did CFPS and Falcon View get put on the commies cannot load list? One of my Lts told me this the other day. He was told the software is outdated and cannot be loaded on any computers. I just came from a base using the software. I'm done, going to put my application in for the Space Corps.  https://spacenews.com/rogers-calls-for-separate-space-corps-within-the-air-force/

Dude don't even get me started. If I ever have to deal with comm and falcon view on the same day again I may jump out the window 

[17D_guy]

I'm not familiar w/ CFPS, JUMPS...and remember Falcon View as bad software circa 2005.  I have a feeling I should know what these things are...

While we're talking about Col's.  I was setting up a brief for a GO w/ 2 other Jr Officers in a NAF Conference room.  People walking in and out as we fiddled with the VTC since the TSgt was out volunteering.  A  Wing/CC Col walks in and looks around as we're messing with the remotes and the other officer is sitting preparing her notes.

Cols says, "Um, I'm not that person, but lets remember our customs and courtesies and when a Col enters the room you need to stand up."  We all get blinky eyed, and the sitting O apologizes but doesn't get up, and the Col leaves. 

Get done with brief, atta boys all around, and same Col comes over and says, "That was pretty good.  But in the future the chomping gum is very distracting."  Went to gather up things and talk with the exec who mentions it and the GO calls me into his office laughing asking if I have to chew gum as he shoves a piece in his mouth, and throws a piece at me.  I then briefed him on a different subject chewing that gum.  

That Col is probably going to get a star.

[HU&W]

32 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

I'm not familiar w/ CFPS, JUMPS...and remember Falcon View as bad software circa 2005.  I have a feeling I should know what these things are..

Mission planning software.  It helps us blow up the stuff we want to without running out of gas or hitting mountains.

[pawnman]

18 hours ago, Azimuth said:

When he was a Sq/CC at KSKA, he would print out your emails, call you in his office, and berate you about your poor grammar and not knowing your past participles or whatever. Of course he was an English major at the Zoo and SECAF speech writer.

He also hated being included in Sq wide emails. So you would have to click the plus sign in email distro address and remove him, as the Sq/CC, or he'd call you in his office and berate you about "spamming his inbox."

Good riddance

I was waiting for the second half of the story, where you removed him from the SQ/All emails and he berated you for not keeping him in the loop.

[Fuzz]

13 hours ago, dream big said:

Dude don't even get me started. If I ever have to deal with comm and falcon view on the same day again I may jump out the window 

My OPs Group hired a contractor to manage CFPS/FV on our computers instead of Comm. 

[Herk Driver]

My OPs Group hired a contractor to manage CFPS/FV on our computers instead of Comm. 

AMC units I have been in for years have had a contractor to manage the program on stand alone computers, IIRC.


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[Fuzz]

13 hours ago, hatedont said:

We were told no soup for us. The Lt asked about JUMPs too. 

Even with all the queep and other stuff that have been repeatedly mentioned on here, this is my biggest gripe about the AF. The continuous inability to properly resource us to do out jobs and I'm not talking MC rates etc. I'm talking about small stuff that forces us to jump through our ass to figure out how to do our job because nobody knows how the hell to get the one program suite we need to do it. Other things like the continuous daily struggle to get computers or printers to work which suck hours of productivity each day. Flying around the world with no international cell phone unless I want to pay for it on my plan out of pocket and having to rack up international charges from my hotel room which the JTR doesn't reimburse. Better yet, when technology like ADS pucks or GPS moving maps on iPads which provide crews with an significant boost in SA are just now being appproved for use if you want to go pay out of pocket again.

There a lot of big problems with the AF but those are to be expected in any organization, its the small things that add up in a daily basis.

/rant off

[pawnman]

14 hours ago, Fuzz said:

I keep hearing that CFPS is supposed to be going away sometime this year and being replaced by JUMPs. My base is still using CFP.

We've been using JMPS for years.

[Fuzz]

6 minutes ago, Herk Driver said:

AMC units I have been in for years have had a contractor to manage the program on stand alone computers, IIRC.


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Our contractors handle it on networked computers too but we also have another contractor who handle our NIPR & SIPR networks instead of the base Comm. 

[17D_guy]

1 hour ago, Fuzz said:

Our contractors handle it on networked computers too but we also have another contractor who handle our NIPR & SIPR networks instead of the base Comm. 

Sounds magical.  

I can't talk about current manning throughout the cyber force - it's rough.  

I will say in Comm Sq leadership in 2015ish I had 22 billets for helpdesk/computer support tech's supporting a base of 5K.  16 of those billets were manned w/ mostly 3-levels (approx 6-8).  Most of my NCO's were cross-trainees or 20 yr techs because the outside was hiring so hard and RIF/Tera/etc.

Then AEF-Next came and I got to keep 8 Amn, out of 22 billets.  4 went as CST deployed down range and the other 4 went as TCN escorts because that was the fair-share around the base.  Our COMSEC office had to pony up 1/2 their Amn as well to support the TCN.  One of our brightest new SSgt's got out because of that.

The person after me came in and was getting so much more accomplished.  I couldn't figure how we'd failed so hard for those 6 months as my whole flight was motivated and talented enough to really improve a lot on the base.  Then I remember how I had 1/3 of the people I was billeted for, which was on-top of the cuts to manpower we realized with the synergy of the Enterprise Service Desk.

[hatedont]

1 hour ago, Fuzz said:

Our contractors handle it on networked computers too but we also have another contractor who handle our NIPR & SIPR networks instead of the base Comm. 

Just brilliant. How did you and Fuzz get leadership to hire contractors and totally break away from the tyrannical commies?

[Fuzz]

22 hours ago, hatedont said:

Just brilliant. How did you and Fuzz get leadership to hire contractors and totally break away from the tyrannical commies?

I don't know how it works, it was established before I arrived at my base and we still have it several years later.

[Herk Driver]

I don't know how it works, it was established before I arrived at my base and we still have it several years later.

 

Same here, but I remember it as far back as '99, at a minimum. There's even a guy at a particular deployed location that does the same function there.

 

 

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[hatedont]

Has this article been posted already?

https://www.google.com/amp/foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/04/jack-mccain-is-right-that-the-air-force-has-big-problems-but-hes-wrong-about-why-officers-are-bailing-out-so-much/amp/

The Air Force’s retention problems will only be fully resolved when the service’s senior leadership creates a performance feedback program that recognizes and promotes talented individuals who may not desire to serve as commanders yet have the technical skills to continue serving. The service should stop using a performance feedback model designed to identify the top 20 percent of officers at their board for promotion to major and switch to one that accommodates an adaptable force that allows officers to achieve their professional and personal goals at their own pace, while still fulfilling specific “needs of the Air Force.”

Edited May 29, 2017 by hatedont

[pawnman]

50 minutes ago, hatedont said:

Has this article been posted already?

https://www.google.com/amp/foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/04/jack-mccain-is-right-that-the-air-force-has-big-problems-but-hes-wrong-about-why-officers-are-bailing-out-so-much/amp/

The Air Force’s retention problems will only be fully resolved when the service’s senior leadership creates a performance feedback program that recognizes and promotes talented individuals who may not desire to serve as commanders yet have the technical skills to continue serving. The service should stop using a performance feedback model designed to identify the top 20 percent of officers at their board for promotion to major and switch to one that accommodates an adaptable force that allows officers to achieve their professional and personal goals at their own pace, while still fulfilling specific “needs of the Air Force.”

Agreed.  The recent uptick in people being picked up above-the-zone gives me a little hope that the Air Force is following the guidance of rating the records, not the year groups.  Some people are fast burners, others take longer to develop.  In my personal opinion, the year group construct is a self-inflicted wound that just continues to bleed...in this case, bleeding talent to the airlines and other outside jobs.

[FourFans]

Couldn't find a better place to put this, but an excellent read.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/29/the-end-of-history-is-the-birth-of-tragedy/

[Jaded]

13 minutes ago, gearpig said:

Call me cynical, but many of the expressions of patriotism, remembrance, and grief I see, especially on social media, seem to be more about public "virtue signaling" than a commitment to preventing history from repeating itself.

I agree.

I have trouble knowing how to respond when people say, "Thank you for your service." It seems like they say it to make themselves feel good while at the same time being completely disinterested in the current wars going on and utterly incapable of holding politicians accountable for years of institutional neglect and a complete lack of a cohesive strategy for the war on terror.

[dream big]

1 hour ago, Jaded said:

I agree.

I have trouble knowing how to respond when people say, "Thank you for your service." It seems like they say it to make themselves feel good while at the same time being completely disinterested in the current wars going on and utterly incapable of holding politicians accountable for years of institutional neglect and a complete lack of a cohesive strategy for the war on terror.

Just say thank you, my pleasure? That's what I do.  Some people genuinely mean it, and I don't try to dissect a basic compliment into the deeper meanings, that's what liberals do. 

[FourFans]

I agree.
I have trouble knowing how to respond when people say, "Thank you for your service." It seems like they say it to make themselves feel good while at the same time being completely disinterested in the current wars going on and utterly incapable of holding politicians accountable for years of institutional neglect and a complete lack of a cohesive strategy for the war on terror.

This is precisely why I posted this under this topic. I would argue that "what's wrong with the Air Force" is really just a reflection of the current national attitude and amnesia about how we got where we are.

[FlyLow]

1 hour ago, dream big said:

Just say thank you, my pleasure? That's what I do.  Some people genuinely mean it, and I don't try to dissect a basic compliment into the deeper meanings, that's what liberals do. 

I've found "Thank you for your support" works well.