What's wrong with the Air Force?

[BashiChuni]

  On 4/26/2018 at 4:43 AM, WTFAF said:

  On 4/25/2018 at 11:56 PM, BashiChuni said:

that's not how the air force world works though...

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Well, your world. Good to know there are perfect people out there like you, sure you must be proud.

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Lol

[Buddy Spike]

  On 4/26/2018 at 6:52 AM, hindsight2020 said:

Linky? LOL

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Seconded... for science.

 

[BADFNZ]

  On 4/26/2018 at 6:25 AM, HuggyU2 said:

Like a private, homemade porn video, that somehow ends up on the internet?  With a male officer and two enlisted gals? 

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I would need to see said video before making any further judgement.

But if this was an honest question, yes.  As a CC, if I found out one of my O's made a sex tape with a couple of E's, my punishment of that individual would be the same whether I was the only one to see the video or if it was posted on the Google home page.  I'm not saying leaders think this way today, but like I said, the audience should have no bearing on the punishment.

[Guest nsplayr]

Over 6,900 hours in the C-130. Nice. 

[Lord Ratner]

  On 4/26/2018 at 6:25 AM, HuggyU2 said:

Like a private, homemade porn video, that somehow ends up on the internet?  With a male officer and two enlisted gals? 

In this scenario, the fraternization, not the publicity of the video would be the punishable offense.

[HuggyU2]

  On 4/26/2018 at 12:52 PM, Lord Ratner said:

  On 4/26/2018 at 6:25 AM, HuggyU2 said:

Like a private, homemade porn video, that somehow ends up on the internet?  With a male officer and two enlisted gals? 

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In this scenario, the fraternization, not the publicity of the video would be the punishable offense.

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It's the Guard.  From what I've seen, nothing in the Guard is considered "fraternization".  

 

[Azimuth]

  On 4/26/2018 at 5:06 PM, HuggyU2 said:

It's the Guard.  From what I've seen, nothing in the Guard is considered "fraternization".  

 

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Depends on what the boss things.  The Washington ANG (-135) Wing King was forced to retire last year, losing his promotion to Brig Gen, for having an affair with the OG Superintendent.

[Danger41]

Like Jesus said, “Let he who has not engaged in a hot ménage with 2 enlisted babes cast the first stone.”

[hindsight2020]

The club parking lot after the Single Airman dinner invite hits the flying squadron incontainers.....

 

[FourFans]

  On 4/27/2018 at 1:36 AM, Danger41 said:

Like Jesus said, “Let he who has not engaged in a hot ménage with 2 enlisted babes cast the first stone.”

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*picks up his active duty stone*

[Danger41]

  On 4/27/2018 at 8:01 AM, FourFans130 said:

*picks up his active duty stone*

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That story was right before the parable of the “inop sarcasm detector”. Believe it is located in the gospel of John (Boyd) 6:9. 

[Lord Ratner]

  On 4/27/2018 at 11:56 AM, Danger41 said:

That story was right before the parable of the “inop sarcasm detector”. Believe it is located in the gospel of John (Boyd) 6:9. 

You missed the joke

[HarleyQuinn]

[17D_guy]

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/20472/retired-general-says-f-22-production-was-killed-so-that-a-new-bomber-could-live

Fuck those guys.  So much faulty logic in the decision to even offer up the F-22 as a sacrificial lamb...

[Guest]

  On 4/29/2018 at 1:28 AM, 17D_guy said:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/20472/retired-general-says-f-22-production-was-killed-so-that-a-new-bomber-could-live
those guys.  So much faulty logic in the decision to even offer up the F-22 as a sacrificial lamb...

Agreed. I will say Tyler Rogoway is a dumbass, however.

[Sprkt69]

i wonder how many times Norty will say “All in” or “Double down” in his book.

[BashiChuni]

Norty didn’t impress me 

didnt blues Monday start under his watch?

[Chuck17]

  On 4/29/2018 at 1:28 AM, 17D_guy said:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/20472/retired-general-says-f-22-production-was-killed-so-that-a-new-bomber-could-live

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Essential in Syria, huh? GMAFB. That's not a knock on the F-22 drivers out there. Just making sure he's saying it was 'mission failure' if the Raptor's weren't up.

Words have meaning, guy.

Chuck

Edited April 29, 2018 by Chuck17

[dream big]

  On 4/29/2018 at 3:38 AM, BashiChuni said:

Norty didn’t impress me 

didnt blues Monday start under his watch?

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Blues Monday, the RIFs, reapings, practice bleeding, etc.....basically all the things we are gripping about today and reasons the good dudes are leaving were all exacerbated under his watch.  

[sqwatch]

  On 4/25/2018 at 11:18 PM, waveshaper said:

Colonel in 'Dino Puppet' Video Speaks: 'I Was Given a Death Sentence';

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/04/25/colonel-dino-puppet-video-speaks-i-was-given-death-sentence.html

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what a bummer for the (Lt) Col. What I find most aggravating is despite his 28 years, multiple deployments, thousands of flight hours etc, three minutes of (minor) misjudgments forces his retirement.

I will caveat with my own personal experience - I faced a similar situation where I could have had the book thrown at me but a cooler head (sts, a three star general in this case) prevailed and instead of an Art 15 I was given a stern talking to about the finer points of the foreign clearance guide and how it spells out applicable curfews to airmen travelling to foreign countries. I don't believe reactionary leadership is systemic in the Airforce, but it sucks that the new retired Lt Col befell its wrath. 

[SocialD]

All because of some ridiculous internet outcry...what a fucking joke!  A great case of, if you can't do something valuable, do some things visible.  Dude will look back on this and realize he is far better off not being a part of this toxic, bullshit laden sinking ship.  Retirement can't get here fast enough.  

[hindsight2020]

  On 4/29/2018 at 8:28 PM, SocialD said:

All because of some ridiculous internet outcry...what a fucking joke!  A great case of, if you can't do something valuable, do some things visible.  Dude will look back on this and realize he is far better off not being a part of this toxic, bullshit laden sinking ship.  Retirement can't get here fast enough.  

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And this happened in the Guard gentlemen. Put in other words: the USAF is fucked. 

[17D_guy]

  On 4/29/2018 at 8:28 PM, SocialD said:

All because of some ridiculous internet outcry...what a fucking joke!  A great case of, if you can't do something valuable, do some things visible.  Dude will look back on this and realize he is far better off not being a part of this toxic, bullshit laden sinking ship.  Retirement can't get here fast enough.  

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And said asshole is now crying about how he didn't mean it that way, and everyone else over-reacted.  "All these places contacted me for comments, or sharing the video...I had no idea it would blow up so big."  

King Blue Falcon acts like he's the arbiter of public Air Force outrage, a Mikey Weintsein of secular "honor" infraction.  A machine of his own making ruined 3 people's lives, and he's attempting to distance himself from it.  What a cowardly villain, inept in his own power - 

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/04/29/military-page-admin-i-wish-id-handled-dino-puppet-video-differently.html

[HarleyQuinn]

This Air Force Puppet Video Would Be Cuter If 3 Airmen Hadn’t Just Had Their Careers Ended

https://www.google.com/amp/s/taskandpurpose.com/dino-puppet-video-elmo-goldfein/amp/

[viper154]

I had a crew chief run out last week to taxi us wearing one of those inflatable dinasour costumes, myself and the crew about lost it, it was hilarious, good for morale, I was deeply sadden about .69 seconds after I saw him and the second thought in my head was “my god, please don’t let anything bad happen happen on this flight and the tapes get pulled” with this puppet incident in the back of my head. The AF has done a fine job of making us to afraid to have fun.