What's wrong with the Air Force?

[pawnman]

14 hours ago, brickhistory said:

And this is why we can't break nice things...

https://dailycaller.com/2018/05/17/air-force-sorry-tweet-terrorists/

 

Apparently it's not our job to kill things anymore.  

The irony is that there are probably plenty of articles out there with far more details about weapons drops and shooting terrorists that are still considered "just fine" by AF PA.  I don't understand why we are so bi-polar when it comes to recognizing that the Air Force is a military branch, and therefore, that we kill people and break things.

[Halo]

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/05/18/air-combat-command-wing-removes-group-vice-commanders-experiment.html

Thoughts?

[ThreeHoler]

What is old is new again. It has been done before.

[YoungnDumb]

Instead of moving O-6's around in a pretend effort to show progress, why don't they change all the regs/rules that say "require Group/CC approval" to "Squadron CC approval?"  I mean isn't the point to make squadrons important again?

[NKAWTG]

3 hours ago, Halo said:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/05/18/air-combat-command-wing-removes-group-vice-commanders-experiment.html

Thoughts?

Are they streamlining, or did they run out of HPO type 11F O-6s?

[Azimuth]

2 hours ago, ThreeHoler said:

What is old is new again. It has been done before.

This. How long until MX Officers wine about lack of command billets...like they did before?

 

Edited May 19, 2018 by Azimuth

[Skitzo]

This. How long until MX Officers wine about lack of command billets...like they did before?
 

Then I guess they would bring back MX Ops Squadrons instead of attaching them at the Group Staff level. That’s like 50 command billets right there.

https://www.amc.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/144275/62nd-maintenance-operations-squadron-deactivates/

[ThreeHoler]

Instead of moving O-6's around in a pretend effort to show progress, why don't they change all the regs/rules that say "require Group/CC approval" to "Squadron CC approval?"  I mean isn't the point to make squadrons important again?

This has already been done. Any T-3 item in a reg is the Sq/CC if the Wg/CC delegates the authority (used to be Gp/CC).

[HarleyQuinn]

Returned from a 6 month deployment and was staying in lodging. Picked up my truck registration off base because it had expired while I was deployed. A rent-a-civilian cop wouldn't let me on base with my brand new registration in my hand. "You need to peel off the old sticker he told me." Hey dumbass, I've been deployed and my truck has been sitting in a hot ass storage unit. That sticker isn't going to just peel off without a razor blade and some window cleaner which is in my toolbox on the base. After going back and forth he called someone and they told his dumbass to let me on the base. Moron....where do they find these people?

Edited May 21, 2018 by HarleyQuinn

[YoungnDumb]

Walmart?

[FourFans]

On ‎5‎/‎20‎/‎2018 at 12:29 AM, Azimuth said:

This. How long until MX Officers wine about lack of command billets...like they did before?

 

Don't jump the gun.  Ops and MX have to get full on married again, consummate the union, and buy a dog before we get to the complaining about needs not being met and getting divorced again.

[Fuzz]

On 5/20/2018 at 5:43 PM, HarleyQuinn said:

Returned from a 6 month deployment and was staying in lodging. Picked up my truck registration off base because it had expired while I was deployed. A rent-a-civilian cop wouldn't let me on base with my brand new registration in my hand. "You need to peel off the old sticker he told me." Hey dumbass, I've been deployed and my truck has been sitting in a hot ass storage unit. That sticker isn't going to just peel off without a razor blade and some window cleaner which is in my toolbox on the base. After going back and forth he called someone and they told his dumbass to let me on the base. Moron....where do they find these people?

Most states have a rule that personnel returning from out of state (due to PCS or deployment) typically have a 30 day grace period to renew their tags before they are actually considered expired. Not helpful now but for future reference when dealing with the SF at the gate.

[Fly]

I got this beauty today;

"The MPS is currently closed for sports day and will reopen Wednesday 23 May 2018 at 0830. 

Due to the high volume of emails, please allow 5-10 Business Days for a response. Thank you for patience."--11th Force Support Squadron 

Meanwhile, I still don't have orders to make arrangements for my family. Nice. 

[Jaded]

I always wondered what would happen if people stopped jumping through their asses to get orders. Just do nothing, and when your DEROS is up or whatever and you don't have orders, you stay an extra week while the FSS gets fucked by some O6s. 

[brabus]

I wish I had done that, at least once.  But I think it would only work in theory, you'd still get fucked over somehow...forced out of your rental house/paying for a hotel out of your pocket, all of your shit not getting picked up on time out of said rental house, etc.  I think it'd be a great play for a single guy, probably not so much with wife/kids in tow.

[Warrior]

I wish I had done that, at least once.  But I think it would only work in theory, you'd still get ed over somehow...forced out of your rental house/paying for a hotel out of your pocket, all of your shit not getting picked up on time out of said rental house, etc.  I think it'd be a great play for a single guy, probably not so much with wife/kids in tow.

Valid. It costs a little bit in hotels/incidental expenses. But the reduced stress that comes with saying “ it, they’ll cut my orders and I’ll report on time or they won’t and I won’t and it’s good either way” is amazing. Highly recommend; have not executed on an OCONUS PCS.

[Snooter]

9 hours ago, Jaded said:

I always wondered what would happen if people stopped jumping through their asses to get orders. Just do nothing, and when your DEROS is up or whatever and you don't have orders, you stay an extra week while the FSS gets fucked by some O6s. 

I racked up 10,000 in GTC charges on a PCS that went delinquent for like six months.  The commander asked me why my card wasn’t paid off and I told him because I hadn’t been paid.  When everyone realized I wasn’t going to pay it until I got paid and it started working it’s way up the chain I got paid within the next week.  

[SocialD]

3 hours ago, Snooter said:

I racked up 10,000 in GTC charges on a PCS that went delinquent for like six months.  The commander asked me why my card wasn’t paid off and I told him because I hadn’t been paid.  When everyone realized I wasn’t going to pay it until I got paid and it started working it’s way up the chain I got paid within the next week.  

This is pretty much my plan of attack with my GTC.  I don't put anything on it that isn't reimbursable.  If it's not paid, I just let it ride, and attach any late fees to the voucher.  Eventually you will show up on someones list and questions will be asked.  It usually gets fixed pretty quickly.  No fuckin way I'm paying 3k of my own money because of their incompetence.  So now I have a GTC that is cutoff and late fees are piling up (which I just add to my voucher).  Funny part is finance tried threatening me by saying I wouldn't be able to go TDY since my GTC was about to be cutoff.  

[Standby]

How do you get 2x miles or bomb-ass cash rewards with the GTC...oh wait, never mind. 

[nunya]

Oh, someone is getting bomb-ass cash from the GTC stranglehold, just not you or me.

[uhhello]

Airfare is pretty much the only charge on my GTC as a standard.  Been doing it for about 10 years now and nobody has said boo.  

[Ram]

 

20 hours ago, Jaded said:

I always wondered what would happen if people stopped jumping through their asses to get orders. Just do nothing, and when your DEROS is up or whatever and you don't have orders, you stay an extra week while the FSS gets fucked by some O6s. 

 

20 hours ago, brabus said:

I wish I had done that, at least once.  But I think it would only work in theory, you'd still get fucked over somehow...forced out of your rental house/paying for a hotel out of your pocket, all of your shit not getting picked up on time out of said rental house, etc.  I think it'd be a great play for a single guy, probably not so much with wife/kids in tow.

I see this happen all the time with members of the MXG here in Korea.  Usually the FSS just extends their DEROS, and the MXG middle management (junior NCOs) in charge of those young airmen don't mind, because they keep their "bodies" around.

I saw a guy PCS 3 months after his original DEROS, and only after a high-speed Top-3 buddy of mine overheard his story and started advocating for him.  Then we got to watch everyone act all surprised:  "WHAT???  THAT'S HAPPENING HERE???"  GMAFB.

When overseas on a remote, playing chicken with the FSS doesn't end well.  It **SHOULD** result in people getting fired, but leadership on that side of the flightline has been broken for so long, you can't expect much.

[HuggyU2]

8 hours ago, SocialD said:

 I don't put anything on it that isn't reimbursable.  

My plan was to never get a GTC card.  They said I couldn't pull it off.  When I retired Nov 2014, I proved them wrong.

Without a GTC, getting airline tickets to TDY was slightly painful for other agencies.  And the looks I got at Finance when I needed help were priceless.  But I made it work.  

One of the small victories is really enjoyed.  (The other was going 8 for 8 against AFPC).

[ColoradoAviator]

4 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

My plan was to never get a GTC card.  They said I couldn't pull it off.

You sir are my hero.  I had to bring my GTC to a recent deployment line as a required item for visual inspection.  "GTC Visa - I literally could not leave home station without it."

[spaceman]

I'm currently TDY for something like 55 days and I'm staying at a motel that costs $93 a night...  I just got the AmEx platinum card that gives you $600 in free points if you put $5k on it in the first 3 months.  55 x $93 = $5115; perfect!!!!!  Who needs a GTC!