What's wrong with the Air Force?

[raimius]

 

8 hours ago, dream big said:

The intent is that they’ll make up for the lost training at the FTUs.  Can’t speak for the fighter side but on the MAF guys, the FTUs are running at max capacity and min manning.  They will definitely not get their lost UPT training at the FTUs.  Then they’ll show up to the units and be our problem.  

Exactly.  How many ops units are having to run more grade books than the school house?  I know mine does.  
The AF is transferring BASIC aircrew training to the ops units, and still lying to itself that the products are going to be the same.  Eventually, this will get people killed. 

We are already seeing an increased normalization of high fatigue, all-inexperienced aircrews, and guidance to "maximize training" (often during operational sorties)...and the new aircrew with even fewer hours are just starting to arrive, and its going to get even worse.  I used to have a fair number of flights where I could do proficiency and skill development with people.  Now, I spend the vast majority of time on operational sorties or just trying to do enough to log the currency requirements (sometimes at the same time).  We are going to get more inexperienced crews and more so-called "experienced" crews that have fewer and rustier skills (even if their beans look good).

[brabus]

One of those things being Wilkerson peeping on a subordinate's wife in the bathroom.

I was there, it was not even remotely what the prosecutor made it out to be.  The accuser was also well known to have lied in court previously and was a veteran of making shit up to get back at other dudes in the past.  Maybe it happened, maybe it didn't, but the fact remains you had a questionable accuser and it was merely his word vs. hers.  Frankly, it's bullshit to send someone to prison based on that weak of a case, and that's why Gen Franklin did what he did.

[Homestar]

So he was watching a woman pee in a way that was somehow not weird?

[SFG]

9 hours ago, dream big said:

They will continue to be burdened with nonner duties because commanders can’t seem to follow CSAF guidance.  They’ll waste time on being equipment custodian, security manager, Christmas party planner, unit piss test POC or whatever.  They’ll have no one to set them straight and teach them how to be pilots because all of our experience is running for the airlines, if they aren’t shackled up at the wing exec or DS office.  We are so f*c&ed. 

Solution. Roll all support positions underneath the ops squadrons that they support. That would make them directly responsible to the Commander that needs to hack the mish, and more importantly, decreases the number of Squadron Christmas parties by the same number as support squadrons we get rid of, plus builds in volunteers for the ops squadron Christmas party.

[Disco_Nav963]

9 hours ago, Homestar said:

So he was watching a woman pee in a way that was somehow not weird?

From what I recall it was a unisex Deid trailer style "bathroom" IVO the hooch where the deployed unit did their roll calls. It was during/after a members only unit social event, and Wilkerson noticed a line had started forming up to use the pisser because someone had locked themselves in the stall for quite a while and wasn't answering when people were knocking. He knocked and went to check WTH was going on, and it was two female dependents (who weren't even supposed to be there) who had locked themselves in to gossip and look at their Instagram. He then apologized. NBD.

At the trial, the prosecution never entered the incident into evidence. They just asked multiple of Wilkerson's character witnesses, on cross-examination, if they had heard of the incident... to try to get it into the jury's heads by implication that Wilkerson was a creepo.

[brabus]

That mostly sums it up.  To add, it was not uncommon to have someone passed out in there who required some help back to their room, so not unusual to think that had happened, knock a few times, then go in to get the poor SOB (and remind him how much he owes you later).  It just so happened to be Roscoe that walked in, could have been me or any other of the dudes who went in.

[Fuzz]

On 7/1/2018 at 9:02 PM, HarleyQuinn said:

My apologies. It was in my Google news feed and all of the stories in my Google feed do not require a subscription except for the Wall Street Journal at times of course. Crazy how Google knows exactly what I want to read..nerd algorithms. 

Google the title and you should be able to see it without the paywall

[Fuzz]

On 7/1/2018 at 7:40 PM, dream big said:

The intent is that they’ll make up for the lost training at the FTUs.  Can’t speak for the fighter side but on the MAF guys, the FTUs are running at max capacity and min manning.  They will definitely not get their lost UPT training at the FTUs.  Then they’ll show up to the units and be our problem.  They will continue to be burdened with nonner duties because commanders can’t seem to follow CSAF guidance.  They’ll waste time on being equipment custodian, security manager, Christmas party planner, unit piss test POC or whatever.  They’ll have no one to set them straight and teach them how to be pilots because all of our experience is running for the airlines, if they aren’t shackled up at the wing exec or DS office.  We are so f*c&ed. 

According to one of the MAF functionals the MAF FTUs aren't at max capacity. Which makes sense because last I checked the C-17 schoolhouse was only several weeks behind /sarc.

[dream big]

On 7/3/2018 at 5:16 AM, Fuzz said:

According to one of the MAF functionals the MAF FTUs aren't at max capacity. Which makes sense because last I checked the C-17 schoolhouse was only several weeks behind /sarc.

Interesting; on the 130 side talking to my bros they are each flying 3 times a week.  The sim is running weekend sims. 

[billy pilgrim]

On 7/2/2018 at 2:08 AM, raimius said:

The AF is transferring BASIC aircrew training to the ops units, and still lying to itself that the products are going to be the same.  Eventually, this will get people killed.

Take a look at the USAF mishap rate this year.  Cutting corners is expensive.

[cragspider]

6 hours ago, dream big said:

Interesting; on the 130 side talking to my bros they are each flying 3 times a week.  The sim is running weekend sims. 

That’s true, the  standard J school program. 6 day weeks in the sim which should be at max capacity with the sims they have.  

[xaarman]

5 hours ago, billy pilgrim said:

Take a look at the USAF mishap rate this year.  Cutting corners is expensive.

Different pots of money!

[Guardian]

The expense is in life. Who cares about the dollars compared to that.

[flyusaf83]

3 hours ago, Guardian said:

The expense is in life. Who cares about the dollars compared to that.

Our leadership, both Congressional and AF. For example, In our latest T-6 PIT safety day, we were told by the OG/CC that leadership understands that there is a realistic chance that by continuing to fly the T-6 with the current rate of UPEs, there will be eventually be class A mishaps and fatalities.  

However, the AF is also bleeding pilots and has decided to grow their way out of the pilot manning crisis, meaning increasing pilot production.  So they have conducted their strategic risk assessment and have chosen to accept the risk of flying bad jets so we can churn out pilots.  They are willing to accept some smoking holes in the ground, rather than stand down the whole fleet for a few months and lose a few hundred pilots.

[IDALPHA]

55 minutes ago, flyusaf83 said:

Our leadership, both Congressional and AF. For example, In our latest T-6 PIT safety day, we were told by the OG/CC that leadership understands that there is a realistic chance that by continuing to fly the T-6 with the current rate of UPEs, there will be eventually be class A mishaps and fatalities.  

However, the AF is also bleeding pilots and has decided to grow their way out of the pilot manning crisis, meaning increasing pilot production.  So they have conducted their strategic risk assessment and have chosen to accept the risk of flying bad jets so we can churn out pilots.  They are willing to accept some smoking holes in the ground, rather than stand down the whole fleet for a few months and lose a few hundred pilots.

Shack...

Only a matter of time before we write more “guidance” with blood.

 

[ClearedHot]

Mission first, people always...

[Ram]

Mission first, people always...

A little grammatical correction yields the truth:

“Mission first, people! Always!”

[YoungnDumb]

Mission first, people when it means I'll look good in front of my boss.

[snoopyeast]

They've figured out that people can be replaced much faster and cheaper than aircraft.  

[TheImplication]

On 8/18/2011 at 1:24 PM, chim richalds said:

Crosswind- yes, our military has made it known that humanitarian support is more important than war-fighting, anybody who doubts that just hasn't been around enough. So, 5 things I hate the most about the Air Force:

 

1- Closed for training on (insert day here).

2- Sexual assault training.

3- The 10 different offices that you can complain to: ig, chaplain, meo, sarc, afrc what do these people do all day?

4- The term "standby to standby".

5- Senior Ncos, they usually have bad haircuts and no real purpose in life.

#5 spot on. Both ROTC senior NCOs I had were  ROTC NCOs for all but 2 years of there AF career. 

[TheImplication]

17 hours ago, flyusaf83 said:

Our leadership, both Congressional and AF. For example, In our latest T-6 PIT safety day, we were told by the OG/CC that leadership understands that there is a realistic chance that by continuing to fly the T-6 with the current rate of UPEs, there will be eventually be class A mishaps and fatalities.  

However, the AF is also bleeding pilots and has decided to grow their way out of the pilot manning crisis, meaning increasing pilot production.  So they have conducted their strategic risk assessment and have chosen to accept the risk of flying bad jets so we can churn out pilots.  They are willing to accept some smoking holes in the ground, rather than stand down the whole fleet for a few months and lose a few hundred pilots.

Might as well bring back the t-37 too

[IDALPHA]

"We have an increase student load coming and from 2017 to 2021 the forecast is a 34 percent increase in students," said Col. Darrell Judy, 71st Flying Training Wing commander.

Judy said the student increase won't come with more instructors, at least not for a few more years.

https://newsok.com/article/5600396/vance-air-force-base-prepares-for-boost-in-pilot-training

This will definitely help retain existing instructors right?

[billy pilgrim]

It sucks to be one of those studs during the this surge.  They are going to have less training and fierce competition through their years AD.

A lot more weight of effort has to be placed on retention rather than production.  Period...  and I'm not talking about getting rid of a CBT or two or pen tab patches.

[ThreeHoler]

34% increase? That’s old news. The current number is from 1200->2000 per year just to keep up with people leaving. And the UPT bases can’t even meet the 1200 existing number let alone the previous 1400 number that was thrown around last year.

[HU&W]

Official propo on the current status of the aircrew crisis.  

https://airman.dodlive.mil/2018/06/27/finding-answers/