What's wrong with the Air Force?

[gearhog]

4 hours ago, joe1234 said:

See, that's the beauty of being a part timer. The military is far more attractive as a side piece than as a wife.

When you get tired of the Air Force's shit, just ghost it for a few weeks until a nice TDY drops down.

Until you get burned a few times by having the TDY cancelled last minute by the Guard Bureau (after you've taken military leave) due to lack of funds, cancelled by the Sq due lack of interest from other crewmembers, or cancelled by MX for broken aircraft. Then you sit around the Sq all week trying to recoup a fraction of your lost airline pay by logging doubles doing CBTs and OPRs if the network is up. I sure hope I don't sound bitter.

[Champ Kind]

Deep-seated?

Thanks. Typed on mobile.

[tac airlifter]

12 hours ago, snoopyeast said:

For all the value that the af places on education, and sending people to get advanced degrees, PME and the like, we have of a lot of people who are quite naive.

Shack.  We are the most educated force in the history of the world, yet we’re losing wars while experienced people walk out in disgust.  Our entire effort at education has failed us: every O5 has a masters yet we do the dumbest shit, repeatedly, and value the inexperienced BTZ over the experienced APZ.  

We've created a military force where combat experience has no value.  Career success can be had without combat success, and combat success doesn’t necessarily equate to career success.  WTF are we doing?

[slc]

6 hours ago, joe1234 said:

See, that's the beauty of being a part timer. The military is far more attractive as a side piece than as a wife.

When you get tired of the Air Force's shit, just ghost it for a few weeks until a nice TDY drops down.

Very well said!!

[slc]

56 minutes ago, torqued said:

Until you get burned a few times by having the TDY cancelled last minute by the Guard Bureau (after you've taken military leave) due to lack of funds, cancelled by the Sq due lack of interest from other crewmembers, or cancelled by MX for broken aircraft. Then you sit around the Sq all week trying to recoup a fraction of your lost airline pay by logging doubles doing CBTs and OPRs if the network is up. I sure hope I don't sound bitter.

Happens to me all the time!! And that's the beauty of it.  If the TDY CX, do a TP (or 2) to justify that MLOA.  Now you can stay at home (and here's a novel idea, go bang the wife!!).  When you hit a certain age, you really have to ask the question, do I really NEED all that money.  The answer is probably no.  

[snoopyeast]

9 hours ago, BADFNZ said:

good stuff

You're absolutely correct.   That's why this situation is amusing.  A bunch of high ranking officers saying "my hands are tied" for problems created by the organization they are leaders in.  It's better to ignore the problem and hope it goes away.  Bunch of smart people we have running the joint.

[snoopyeast]

9 hours ago, Champ Kind said:

A symptom of the deep-seated trust issues in the AF.  

 

A pilot mentioned to the SQ/CC during a mentoring secession about an upcoming wing staff job that he wasn't sure what his 5 year AF plan was.   No kidding 2 days later, that guy had a 6 month non-flying assignment dropped on him, and no wing job following.   You had better bet that every pilot in the wing, from the newest Lt to crusty Major know about that one.  

Edited December 18, 2018 by snoopyeast

[snoopyeast]

Freudian slip apparently. 

[ATIS]

13 hours ago, Bobsan said:

Free hugs to "stay fit to fight"

What the Flying F&*K.

Fit to fight....I weep.

ATIS

[17D_guy]

14 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

 repeatedly, and value the inexperienced BTZ over the experienced APZ. 

I've got my grievances with the HPO/Shiny Penny method of leadership selection we utilize.  But there's got to be a difference between the APZ's you guys work with and the ones I do...because the ones I do are awful. 

Maj's that can't communicate, can't lead, can't even manage, extremely risk averse and should just dress up in a Blue Falcon costume.  Never mind failing training requirements, and still demanding to be "first out the door."

Perhaps I'm just institutionalized since I hit 20 early next year.

[Warrior]

I've got my grievances with the HPO/Shiny Penny method of leadership selection we utilize.  But there's got to be a difference between the APZ's you guys work with and the ones I do...because the ones I do are awful. 

Maj's that can't communicate, can't lead, can't even manage, extremely risk averse and should just dress up in a Blue Falcon costume.  Never mind failing training requirements, and still demanding to be "first out the door."
Perhaps I'm just institutionalized since I hit 20 early next year.

Selection bias. We like to bitch about the bro who got passed over who’s a really good/smart:hard working dude and hold that example up as indicative of everyone who got passed over. I know a handful who fit the criteria-shocked that they didn’t make it.

Then there are the retards who suck in the jet and at office work. Those are the ones who should have been passed over, but there’s a delta between the number of tards and the total number who get passed over. Those are the stories that are much more dramatic to complain about.

[NKAWTG]

11 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

I've got my grievances with the HPO/Shiny Penny method of leadership selection we utilize.  But there's got to be a difference between the APZ's you guys work with and the ones I do...because the ones I do are awful. 

Maj's that can't communicate, can't lead, can't even manage, extremely risk averse and should just dress up in a Blue Falcon costume.  Never mind failing training requirements, and still demanding to be "first out the door."

Perhaps I'm just institutionalized since I hit 20 early next year.

Most APZ pilots tend to have flown their entire career and are very good at it.  They've given the Heisman to queep, and paid the price in promotion rates.  They do most of the flying, teaching, and mentoring of our next generation of pilots.  In the MAF world, the guys who are BTZ got that way by doing everything but aircraft related duties, and typically have little credibility flying.  Most I've known want to fly more, but the AF won't let them do it often enough to stay good. 

[pawnman]

9 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

I've got my grievances with the HPO/Shiny Penny method of leadership selection we utilize.  But there's got to be a difference between the APZ's you guys work with and the ones I do...because the ones I do are awful. 

Maj's that can't communicate, can't lead, can't even manage, extremely risk averse and should just dress up in a Blue Falcon costume.  Never mind failing training requirements, and still demanding to be "first out the door."

Perhaps I'm just institutionalized since I hit 20 early next year.

We've got a few that way, but we also have a few who were just legitimately screwed over, like the guy passed over on his O-5 board with a DP.

[slc]

21 hours ago, torqued said:

True, and actually, that's exactly what I did last time. Still don't know who's wife it was.

Awesome.  Well played

[Skitzo]

We've got a few that way, but we also have a few who were just legitimately screwed over, like the guy passed over on his O-5 board with a DP.

What?


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[pawnman]

5 minutes ago, Skitzo said:

 

What?


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WE HAVE A FEW THAT WAY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A FEW WHO WERE JUST LEGITIMATELY SCREWED OVER, LIKE THE GUY PASSED OVER ON HIS O-5 BOARD WITH A DP.

[Skitzo]

WE HAVE A FEW THAT WAY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A FEW WHO WERE JUST LEGITIMATELY SCREWED OVER, LIKE THE GUY PASSED OVER ON HIS O-5 BOARD WITH A DP.

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[xaarman]

On a side note, this happened: https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/19/us/air-force-base-active-shooter-confusion/index.html

 

lol I'm sure no one got fired for this innocent mistake

[HU&W]

12 minutes ago, xaarman said:

On a side note, this happened: https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/19/us/air-force-base-active-shooter-confusion/index.html

 

lol I'm sure no one got fired for this innocent mistake

The article never said what happened to the jogger.  Did he ever get his motrin?

[raimius]

1 hour ago, xaarman said:

On a side note, this happened: https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/19/us/air-force-base-active-shooter-confusion/index.html

 

lol I'm sure no one got fired for this innocent mistake

Hey man, two things happening at once gets really tough!  You wouldn't expect that to happen in a million years.

Also, is shooting through the door not how we are supposed to open them?

.....

Lots of new airmen with drive but not the training...

[17D_guy]

2 hours ago, xaarman said:

On a side note, this happened: https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/19/us/air-force-base-active-shooter-confusion/index.html

 

lol I'm sure no one got fired for this innocent mistake

Oh, are we still pretending Wright Pat is a Air Force Base, and not a civilian run self-licking ice cream cone?

[MooseClub]

[pbar]

1 hour ago, MooseClub said:

I don't get it.  What do Army dress shoes have to do with what's wrong with the AF?

[Tonka]

I'm pretty amazed no one died...

" The report made recommendations for the base to improve its communications about drill exercises, and inter-operability with state and local first responders. " 

Edited December 21, 2018 by Tonka
more stuff

[brabus]

"There was an "incredible convergence of stimuli," Col. Thomas Sherman, commander of the 88th Air Base Wing, told reporters Wednesday. "Sounds, yells, sights. All of those things that are really testing the senses."

Hahaha, oh wait, you're serious?  This is one, rare time where I think some leadership deserves to get fired.  Unbelievable clown show.