What's wrong with the Air Force?

[slc]

Still standing by on memo for reduction of duties

[Skitzo]

What’s wrong with the USAF?

 

Flight glove wear guidance in the MAJCOM supp to the uniform reg.

 

 

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[tac airlifter]

  On 8/8/2019 at 1:49 AM, Skitzo said:

What’s wrong with the USAF?

 

Flight glove wear guidance in the MAJCOM supp to the uniform reg.

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When are you giving us an ETP so we can continue not wearing gloves?

[BashiChuni]

  On 8/8/2019 at 2:01 AM, tac airlifter said:

When are you giving us an ETP so we can continue not wearing gloves?

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not on my watch, and why you're at it throw out those salomon boots #notFlightRated - unnamed AFSOC GO

[BADFNZ]

  On 8/8/2019 at 1:11 AM, Homestar said:

Show me an ops group doing this and I’ll care. 

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Impossible.  We're either deployed, TDY, or separated.  OG/CC would be the only person there.

[HuggyU2]

  On 8/8/2019 at 1:49 AM, Skitzo said:

Flight glove wear guidance in the MAJCOM supp to the uniform reg.

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Quick story:  U-2 bud does his T-38 check ride shortly after arriving at Beale, and flies it with the DO.  My bud doesn't wear his nomex gloves.  

Examiner/DO debriefs him, and at the end says "you violated such-and-such regulation by not wearing the gloves, and therefore I will Q-3 you.  It's a safety of flight issue."

Bud says:  "how could you tell?"

Examiner/DO:  "I saw it when you took the runway as you lowered your canopy."

Bud:  "so you intentionally allowed me to do the takeoff and the entire flight without correcting me on the spot for what you perceived was a serious safety violation?  I'll take the Q-3... fair enough.  However, you and I are going to go talk to the Squadron commander, and then the OG commander and I'm going to ask THEM if YOU should also be Q-3.".

My bud ended up with a Q-1.  

Edited August 8, 2019 by HuggyU2

[viper154]

  On 8/8/2019 at 1:49 AM, Skitzo said:

What’s wrong with the USAF?

 

Flight glove wear guidance in the MAJCOM supp to the uniform reg.

 

 

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Did that finally happen? Been hearing rumors now for awhile. I just can’t wait to be back from leave............. 

[SurelySerious]

  On 8/8/2019 at 1:49 AM, Skitzo said:

What’s wrong with the USAF?

 

Flight glove wear guidance in the MAJCOM supp to the uniform reg.

 

 

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Not the 11-series reg? Sounds like I can’t find that in my EFB to follow. 

[Cooter]

  On 8/8/2019 at 2:31 AM, BashiChuni said:

not on my watch, and why you're at it throw out those salomon boots #notFlightRated - unnamed AFSOC GO

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Wait...didn't we go through this a few years back?

Unnamed AFSOC GO...riiiiiiiiiight.

I'd rather have gasoline soaked shoes than flame resistant lead weights on my feet.

Cooter

[CharlieHotel47]

  On 8/7/2019 at 10:39 PM, SuperWSO said:

binge drinking.

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hell yeah!!!

[xaarman]

  On 8/7/2019 at 8:34 PM, Majestik Møøse said:

What time do you show for your airline?

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That’s the great thing about the airlines.... one persons trash is another persons treasure. Some people love redeyes for commuting, some people (me) avoid them at all costs. 

 

To answer your question, I haven’t set an alarm clock in months because I prefer late morning to afternoon shows.  

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[Duck]

  On 8/8/2019 at 1:48 PM, xaarman said:

That’s the great thing about the airlines.... one persons trash is another persons treasure. Some people love redeyes for commuting, some people (me) avoid them at all costs. 
 
To answer your question, I haven’t set an alarm clock in months because I prefer late morning to afternoon shows.  

Which is awesome because I like the AM shows and being done with my day around noon. It’s awesome to have the flexibility.


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[Danger41]

For this AFSOC flight glove thing, what is the verbiage? I’m checking all the sources I have available and can’t find this. 

[Danger41]

  On 8/8/2019 at 5:24 AM, HuggyU2 said:

Quick story:  U-2 bud does his T-38 check ride shortly after arriving at Beale, and flies it with the DO.  My bud doesn't wear his nomex gloves.  

Examiner/DO debriefs him, and at the end says "you violated such-and-such regulation by not wearing the gloves, and therefore I will Q-3 you.  It's a safety of flight issue."

Bud says:  "how could you tell?"

Examiner/DO:  "I saw it when you took the runway as you lowered your canopy."

Bud:  "so you intentionally allowed me to do the takeoff and the entire flight without correcting me on the spot for what you perceived was a serious safety violation?  I'll take the Q-3... fair enough.  However, you and I are going to go talk to the Squadron commander, and then the OG commander and I'm going to ask THEM if YOU should also be Q-3.".

My bud ended up with a Q-1.  

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That’s awesome! Kind of like the story someone put on here about a C-17 guy that put his gloves under his headset to meet the requirement of the evaluator.

[pawnman]

  On 8/8/2019 at 1:49 AM, Skitzo said:

What’s wrong with the USAF?

 

Flight glove wear guidance in the MAJCOM supp to the uniform reg.

 

 

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Why on earth would that be in the uniform reg and not an 11- series reg?

Edited August 8, 2019 by pawnman

[tac airlifter]

  On 8/8/2019 at 8:26 PM, pawnman said:

Why on earth would that be in the uniform reg and not an 11- series reg?

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That’s what we’re all asking each other since the 11 MDS series specifically allows you to fly without gloves worn.

[Breckey]

Do you also tuck in your 2 piece top when you don't wear armor and sanitize at home station?

[Skitzo]

  On 8/8/2019 at 9:46 PM, tac airlifter said:

That’s what we’re all asking each other since the 11 MDS series specifically allows you to fly without gloves worn.

FCIF relief tomorrow or the next day. Basically will say the MAJCOM supp is being rescinded. Follow MDS Vol 3 guidance, if your V3 lacks guidance or points to the MAJCOM supp have them avail from engine start to shutdown.


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[raimius]

Problem solved, right?

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2019-08-08/air-force-believes-it-has-stemmed-the-pilot-shortage

[Guardian]

Anyone have an opinion of ole fingers?

[ImNotARobot]

  On 8/9/2019 at 5:46 PM, Guardian said:

Anyone have an opinion of ole fingers?

You do.

[dream big]

  On 8/9/2019 at 5:46 PM, Guardian said:

Anyone have an opinion of ole fingers?

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Met him many times, while he is flat out wrong in claiming the pilot shortage is solved, he’s the best CSAF we could have considering the other crop of HPO wonder GOs. 

[Fuzz]

  On 8/7/2019 at 4:17 PM, rudderrightmore said:

 

This is a real email....

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"Hey we scheduled this at a time we know you won't have childcare so use that plan you have which isn't meant for these things to cover our asshattery"

[Day Man]

maybe if that email would have said 'mandatory for all active duty 'personnel' , buttttt ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[pawnman]

  On 8/10/2019 at 2:47 AM, Fuzz said:

"Hey we scheduled this at a time we know you won't have childcare so use that plan you have which isn't meant for these things to cover our asshattery"

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All to make people more resilient so they don't commit suicide...