What's wrong with the Air Force?

[Weapons Away]

23 hours ago, CaptainMorgan said:

AFSCbot-18X is an RPA operator


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[Boomer6]

What about ppl that de-transition? Were they confused, unbalanced, or what?

[brabus]

They were manipulated, simple as that. 

[Duck]

I highly recommend “What is a Woman?” which can be found on Twitter searching for The Daily Wire. Pretty scary stuff and even scarier that the children are being indoctrinated with this stuff.


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[HeloDude]

The leftist on this site can’t (won’t) even explain what a woman is.

[ClearedHot]

1 hour ago, Boomer6 said:

What about ppl that de-transition? Were they confused, unbalanced, or what?

As you know there is a HUGE difference between acceptance/equal treatment of LGTBQ and the progressive movement that is being forced down our throats, I would hope @nsplayr would agree. 

Compare and contrast how the issue is being handled by the progressive media in Florida and California.  Last year Florida passed a law that the progressive movement absolutely hated because it thwarts their agenda...they hate it so much they changed the name and have repeatedly called it the "don't say gay law" even the the word "gay" is no where in the verbiage.  That law simply states schools will not have “instruction” or “discussion” of sexual orientation and gender identity from kindergarten through third grade.  If you see something wrong with that...god help you.  The progressives are of course upset and screen it impacts their free speech as if their right to proselytize gender change to kids 5-8 years old is more important than parental rights.  

In California schools have allowed institutions like Planned Parenthood and organizations that promote gender change to promote this ideology without the knowledge or permission of parents.  In these sessions they tell 5-8 year olds they can get puberty blockers without their parents finding out.  Truly sick humans.  I supposed these same groups would enable a six year old who wants to be a pirate and schedule his eye removal and peg leg surgery.  This ideology is celebrated in California schools and parents who push back find themselves under surveillance by the FBI as possible domestic terrorists.  It is very interesting that over 80% of kids who seek gender conversion end up changing their mind...80%.

I will support your right to be what you want and love who you want all day, but stop promoting this to pre-adolencents and stop cutting parents out of the process. 

[Standby]

1 hour ago, Boomer6 said:

What about ppl that de-transition? Were they confused, unbalanced, or what?

They were basket cases before, and will be basket cases after. 

[Sim]

 

[Biff_T]

3 hours ago, Boomer6 said:

What about ppl that de-transition? Were they confused, unbalanced, or what?

My best friend became a trans.   I grew up with him. We surfed together, served together, I was a groomsman (his brother was the best man) at his wedding.  I was there when he met the mother of his children.   He got out of the military well before hitting 20 years and was a very successful investor.   Over a decade ago, he got addicted to speed.   He has since left his family, he hasn’t see his children since July of last year.   He’s been battling this crippling addiction for a while.   His latest adventure (which I’ve mentioned here before) is becoming a woman.  He has lost his fucking mind.  The trans movement has made it harder to get him help.   As I’m a bad person for suggesting maybe it’s the drugs making him this way.   I called his mom on Mother’s Day for him.  She’s devastated, along with his dad, ex wife and children.   I check up on him weekly.    My guess is my friend will detransition when he’s finished being a selfish asshole, addicted to drugs.  He’s still my brother, it’s just really hard watching someone do this to himself.  

[Biff_T]

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

I will support your right to be what you want and love who you want all day, but stop promoting this to pre-adolencents and stop cutting parents out of the process. 

This. 

[Day Man]

20 hours ago, bfargin said:

i stand by my observation that 30 plus years of championing abnormal sexual activity has had seriously negative consequences psychologically for our society.

concur.

[HeloDude]

12 minutes ago, Day Man said:

concur.

What leftists fail to realize is that two things can be true at the same time—messing up kids’ lives is bad regardless of who is doing it.  When Bill Maher is saying it, you know it’s pretty bad.

[DosXX]

On 6/3/2023 at 12:54 PM, bfargin said:

Sure a lot of people smoking each others poles throwing out “faggot” at me like it’s an insult. I thought you were telling me it’s normal and good. So am i supposed to be insulted or proud to be labeled a bone smuggler. Make up your mind

You should be proud brother it’s not an insult, totally normal hiding terabytes of gay porn on your computer while going out of your way to hurl bullshit against gay people online.

I’ll double it and throw 200 down

[TreeA10]

Children aren't allowed to drive until 14, get a driver's license at 16, vote or buy a gun until 18, and drink until they are 21 years old.  Why? Because society does not believe that children have the mental capacity to make correct choices regarding those subjects.  But somehow, when it comes to permanent devastating life altering surgical or hormonal choices, children including pre-teens are deemed by the left to be more than competent to make those decisions. The leftist fascination with co-opting children is downright evil.

Whatever another adult wants to do to float their boat is fine by me just don't ask me to to play along with any sort of delusion or celebrate whatever choice that adult may make but leave children alone.

Edited June 4, 2023 by TreeA10

[Standby]

3 hours ago, TreeA10 said:

Children aren't allowed to drive until 14, get a driver's license at 16, vote or buy a gun until 18, and drink until they are 21 years old.  Why? Because society does not believe that children have the mental capacity to make correct choices regarding those subjects. 

Let us not forget that you can also enlist and die (assuming you were to complete basic and whatever MOS/AFSC training was required in time) at the age of 17…

Old enough to chop your fucking dick off and die for your country, but not old enough to bum a cigarette (or fag depending on your culture).

[FourFans]

For those who've read their Robert Heinlein, I can thoroughly envision a near future where the veterans in society have to save it from itself.

[brabus]

6 hours ago, TreeA10 said:

children including pre-teens

To clarify, that includes as young as 5. Apparently 5 yr olds are mature enough to decide hormone altering drugs are OK to take without their parents knowing…because teacher knows better and said you should…yeah, nothing totally fucked up here going on. 

[McJay Pilot]

26 minutes ago, FourFans said:

For those who've read their Robert Heinlein, I can thoroughly envision a near future where the veterans in society have to save it from itself.

I encourage as many people as I can to READ Starship Troopers. The universal reaction is usually “holy shit”.

[Bigred]

12 hours ago, Standby said:

Let us not forget that you can also enlist and die (assuming you were to complete basic and whatever MOS/AFSC training was required in time) at the age of 17…

 

You can only join at 17 if your parents approve and sign paperwork. 

[Biff_T]

13 hours ago, brabus said:

To clarify, that includes as young as 5. Apparently 5 yr olds are mature enough to decide hormone altering drugs are OK to take without their parents knowing…because teacher knows better and said you should…yeah, nothing totally fucked up here going on. 

If you’re mature enough to pour yourself a bowl of Golden Grahams, then you’re more than capable of making life altering choices.  Come on man.  

[tac airlifter]

13 hours ago, McJay Pilot said:

I encourage as many people as I can to READ Starship Troopers. The universal reaction is usually “holy shit”.

Citizenship for service. Absolutely great fucking idea.  The USA is founded on the best ideas and socio-political philosophies humans produced, but the crippling flaw is free citizenship.  A selfish spoiled trust fund baby, a criminal on welfare, and a wounded vet who works full time all have equal voice in selecting future leaders & laws of our land.  Not optimal.

On 6/4/2023 at 11:43 AM, Biff_T said:

My best friend became a trans.   I grew up with him. We surfed together, served together, I was a groomsman (his brother was the best man) at his wedding.  I was there when he met the mother of his children.   He got out of the military well before hitting 20 years and was a very successful investor.   Over a decade ago, he got addicted to speed.   He has since left his family, he hasn’t see his children since July of last year.   He’s been battling this crippling addiction for a while.   His latest adventure (which I’ve mentioned here before) is becoming a woman.  He has lost his fucking mind.  The trans movement has made it harder to get him help.   As I’m a bad person for suggesting maybe it’s the drugs making him this way.   I called his mom on Mother’s Day for him.  She’s devastated, along with his dad, ex wife and children.   I check up on him weekly.    My guess is my friend will detransition when he’s finished being a selfish asshole, addicted to drugs.  He’s still my brother, it’s just really hard watching someone do this to himself.  

you sound like a white supremacist transphobe.  Take 4 COVID shots and one online queer-theory class before signing up for monthly BLM donations to absolve yourself of sin.

[nsplayr]

15 minutes ago, tac airlifter said:

Citizenship for service. Absolutely great fucking idea.  The USA is founded on the best ideas and socio-political philosophies humans produced, but the crippling flaw is free citizenship.  A selfish spoiled trust fund baby, a criminal on welfare, and a wounded vet who works full time all have equal voice in selecting future leaders & laws of our land.  Not optimal.

1000% disagree. Having obtainable naturalization and birthright citizenship is a huge leg up for the US and always has been. Furthermore, the cultural norm that an “American” isn’t a race or a people that one either has or doesn’t but rather a set of ideals and something you can choose is at the foundation of our enduring strength.

I would actually support universal national service for all young people that conferred benefits like college or job training money & opportunities.

But a just-naturalized Bulgarian-American or a second-generation, US-born Colombian-American is just as much a citizen as you or I, and I sincerely believe that is a feature that makes the US superior to other countries.

You can move to China and speak Chinese and live there for 50 years but you’ll never “be Chinese” and that’s simply not the case here.

Edited June 5, 2023 by nsplayr

[Biff_T]

22 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

But a just-naturalized Bulgarian-American or a second-generation, US-born Colombian-American is just as much a citizen as you or I, and I sincerely believe that is a feature that makes the US superior to other countries

This.  

[tac airlifter]

1 hour ago, nsplayr said:

1000% disagree. Having obtainable naturalization and birthright citizenship is a huge leg up for the US and always has been. But a just-naturalized Bulgarian-American or a second-generation, US-born Colombian-American is just as much a citizen as you or I, and I sincerely believe that is a feature that makes the US superior to other countries.

No surprise that we disagree, standard.  I still like you though! 

For clarity, the idea of citizenship for service is highly inclusive to the 2 examples you listed above, and I’d guess preferable to those individuals since Bulgaria and Colombia both have tons of hard working folks interested in US citizenship yet intimidated navigating the Byzantine bureaucracy of current US immigration law.  And I don't think my kids should be entitled to citizenship based on what I’ve done.  I believe in radical fairness, not free handouts.

It’s noteworthy that your two examples are foreign immigrants, whereas my three examples never mentioned immigration or race, it was about who gives back to the community.  It’s an example of how the left and right talk past each other on these discussions: I view race and ethnicity as irrelevant to discussions on citizenship, and you’re chomping at the bit to insert race into the discussion with a tongue in cheek implication I view bi-racial citizens as not fully American. I am interested in more citizens who are hard-working and add value to the country; I do not think those unwilling to put skin in the game should have equal say creating new laws (and I don’t care what color their skin is).  Said another way, people unwilling/unable to send their kids to war & pay taxes should not be allowed to force mine to go or increase my taxes.  But that’s the system we currently have that you believe is a strength.  I’m sure you’ve opened your home to all the illegals and don’t mind having your kids wait for health care so crackheads can go first…. 

This is all just talk though, our system is not changing. 

Edited June 5, 2023 by tac airlifter

[McJay Pilot]

7 hours ago, nsplayr said:

1000% disagree. Having obtainable naturalization and birthright citizenship is a huge leg up for the US and always has been. Furthermore, the cultural norm that an “American” isn’t a race or a people that one either has or doesn’t but rather a set of ideals and something you can choose is at the foundation of our enduring strength.

I would actually support universal national service for all young people that conferred benefits like college or job training money & opportunities.

But a just-naturalized Bulgarian-American or a second-generation, US-born Colombian-American is just as much a citizen as you or I, and I sincerely believe that is a feature that makes the US superior to other countries.

You can move to China and speak Chinese and live there for 50 years but you’ll never “be Chinese” and that’s simply not the case here.

Honest question, have you read the book?