What's wrong with the Air Force?

[di1630]

  On 11/16/2023 at 12:19 AM, BashiChuni said:

step 3. piss off new FTU with your "untouchable" attitude...get "fired" from your ANG fighter unit before graduation.
step 4. repeat step 1.

Haha, ain’t no leadership that’s gonna stand up to this madness and risk their career.


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[HuggyU2]

  On 11/15/2023 at 4:30 PM, HeloDude said:

Doesn’t sound like equality to me…

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Equity.  

[SocialD]

  On 11/16/2023 at 12:56 AM, di1630 said:

Haha, ain’t no leadership that’s gonna stand up to this madness and risk their career.

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Most of the ANG SQ/CCs already have a seniority number and are close enough to a 20 yr retirement, they're not that worried 🤣.  

Edited November 16, 2023 by SocialD

[LookieRookie]

  On 11/16/2023 at 5:29 AM, HuggyU2 said:

Equity.  

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A lot of people are under the misunderstanding that DE&I means diversity, equality and inclusion.

 It may have originally, but now it means diversity, equity and inclusion. AKA management/leadership forced outcomes no matter the input.

Also known as make the slides green.

 

[HeloDude]

The Air Force doesn’t want its members to go a conservative rally…shocking.
 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/air-force-base-warns-service-members-avoid-rally-speaker-pro-trump-group

[Blue]

  On 11/21/2023 at 3:48 PM, HeloDude said:

The Air Force doesn’t want its members to go a conservative rally…shocking.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/air-force-base-warns-service-members-avoid-rally-speaker-pro-trump-group

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Copy of the chat posted below, pulled from the Air Force amn/nco/snco Facebook page.

Fox News obviously has their own bias, and they love to rage-bait their audience.  But I really love how the SFS (and to a lesser extent, the MDG) really step all over their dick on this, for all the world to see.  This could have been: "Hey military members, there is a large political-related gathering downtown this weekend.  If you go, please use caution, as these things can get sporty  Also, don't be a dumbass and wear your uniform at the rally, because UCMJ."

Instead, they let their bias show: The Turning Point Action group is "Alt right?"  "Confrontational to military members?"  Says who?

Along with a veiled threat about attendance could "jeopardize their military careers."  And in the interest of just kinda throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks, they try to tie the rally to some random shooting elsewhere in Minot.

5SFS/CCF is the First Shirt, right?  Used to be that being posted as a Shirt was something special, reserved only for those SNCOs with superior levels of knowledge and judgement.  I'm going to take a wild guess that this First Shirt who chose to shine his/her ass for all the world to see is your typical diversity posting, promoted to a level and a position beyond his or her skill.  And nonsense like this is the inevitable result.

Kudos to the Air Force amn/nco/snco page.  It's 75% memes and other nonsense, but buried in there is a lot of real-live shining the light on the stupid, idiotic, and absurd.  This is an exceptionally good example - the chat was posted to the page about noon on Sunday, and made it to Fox News less than 48 hours later.

Look forward to the Minot Public Affairs folks releasing their inevitable back-pedaling statement.

 

[brabus]

 The definition of “alt right” is actually, “anything that isn’t in line with progressive ideology.” Same can be said for the opposite side. What if we just defined things for what they are, and only attached the “extremist” label on things that truly are an extreme departure from the majority. Hint, organizations like Turning Point are not extreme. 

Edited November 21, 2023 by brabus

[BashiChuni]

conservative = alt right

the dems have done a good job with their "MAGA Extremist" propaganda campaign. anything that doesn't fall in line with the extreme left is "extremist"

 

[dream big]

  On 11/21/2023 at 5:12 PM, Blue said:

Copy of the chat posted below, pulled from the Air Force amn/nco/snco Facebook page.

Fox News obviously has their own bias, and they love to rage-bait their audience.  But I really love how the SFS (and to a lesser extent, the MDG) really step all over their dick on this, for all the world to see.  This could have been: "Hey military members, there is a large political-related gathering downtown this weekend.  If you go, please use caution, as these things can get sporty  Also, don't be a dumbass and wear your uniform at the rally, because UCMJ."

Instead, they let their bias show: The Turning Point Action group is "Alt right?"  "Confrontational to military members?"  Says who?

Along with a veiled threat about attendance could "jeopardize their military careers."  And in the interest of just kinda throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks, they try to tie the rally to some random shooting elsewhere in Minot.

5SFS/CCF is the First Shirt, right?  Used to be that being posted as a Shirt was something special, reserved only for those SNCOs with superior levels of knowledge and judgement.  I'm going to take a wild guess that this First Shirt who chose to shine his/her ass for all the world to see is your typical diversity posting, promoted to a level and a position beyond his or her skill.  And nonsense like this is the inevitable result.

Kudos to the Air Force amn/nco/snco page.  It's 75% memes and other nonsense, but buried in there is a lot of real-live shining the light on the stupid, idiotic, and absurd.  This is an exceptionally good example - the chat was posted to the page about noon on Sunday, and made it to Fox News less than 48 hours later.

Look forward to the Minot Public Affairs folks releasing their inevitable back-pedaling statement.

 

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I’ve seen some real dipshits work as “shirts” these days, just underneath a toxic lazy SEL. I used to respect the hell out of Command Teams SNCOs. 

[skibum]

  On 11/22/2023 at 5:01 AM, dream big said:

I’ve seen some real dipshits work as “shirts” these days, just underneath a toxic lazy SEL. I used to respect the hell out of Command Teams SNCOs. 

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Yeah, I don't know. I've been around a while and am not sure the good ol' days were any better. About 20 years ago I recall the Command SNCOs were telling be I couldn't eat at the chow hall because my shorts had pockets. I can think of a few more examples that date back even further.

[Biff_T]

  On 11/22/2023 at 5:29 PM, skibum said:

Yeah, I don't know. I've been around a while and am not sure the good ol' days were any better. About 20 years ago I recall the Command SNCOs were telling be I couldn't eat at the chow hall because my shorts had pockets. I can think of a few more examples that date back even further.

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Most Non Flying AF SNCOs are turds (I will never spell it with an u, those are for pussies lol), prove me wrong.  

"If I cant trust you to keep your hands out of you pockets, how can I trust you to fly a military aircraft?" -SNCO that isn't ops or mx

"Fuck off!" - Me 

Edited November 23, 2023 by Biff_T
U know

[HeloDude]

  On 11/22/2023 at 5:29 PM, skibum said:

Yeah, I don't know. I've been around a while and am not sure the good ol' days were any better. About 20 years ago I recall the Command SNCOs were telling be I couldn't eat at the chow hall because my shorts had pockets. I can think of a few more examples that date back even further.

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Did they only tell certain people who supported certain political parties, etc that they could/couldn’t eat at a chow hall because of their shorts?  Singling out those who follow one political party/ideology and not the other is far worse than anything I saw 20 years ago.

[ViperMan]

  On 11/22/2023 at 5:46 PM, Biff_T said:

Most Non Flying AF SNCOs are turds (I will never spell it with an u, those are for pussies lol), prove me wrong.

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Well, you do put the 'u' in 'turd' - no one can argue that...

 

[Biff_T]

  On 11/23/2023 at 1:28 AM, ViperMan said:

Well, you do put the 'u' in 'turd' - no one can argue that...

 

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I learned how to spell turd on baseops.net.   

[HeloDude]

He was a top General in the Air Force and was one of the top guys in the intelligence world…let this sink in for a minute about what people in these positions think.

[Biff_T]

  On 11/23/2023 at 6:32 PM, HeloDude said:

 

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"What's the difference?" - Intel Officer

"One likes Americans the other doesn't." - Pilot 

[BashiChuni]

  On 11/23/2023 at 6:32 PM, HeloDude said:

He was a top General in the Air Force and was one of the top guys in the intelligence world…let this sink in for a minute about what people in these positions think.

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Hayden has been off in the deep end for a long time now. 

[HeloDude]

  On 11/23/2023 at 6:51 PM, BashiChuni said:

Hayden has been off in the deep end for a long time now. 

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I’m of the opinion that this has been his philosophy for quite a while, definitely spanning while he was on AD and being a high member of the intel community.

[Lord Ratner]

  On 11/23/2023 at 6:32 PM, HeloDude said:

He was a top General in the Air Force and was one of the top guys in the intelligence world…let this sink in for a minute about what people in these positions think.

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I'm still confused that anybody in the military would hold a general to some sort of higher expectation. If anything my experience demonstrates that they are less likely to impress. 

 

These are the people that taught themselves to love the taste of shit just so they could one day be a general. The ultimate "yes men". They were not promoted in the field due to battle competence.

Edited November 23, 2023 by Lord Ratner

[FourFans]

  On 11/23/2023 at 6:47 PM, Biff_T said:

"What's the difference?" - Intel Officer

"One likes Americans the other doesn't." - Pilot 

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Wait...you're not calling dibs?

[ViperMan]

  On 11/23/2023 at 9:59 PM, Lord Ratner said:

They were not promoted in the field due to battle competence.

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Especially that one.

[busdriver]

The one on the left looks to be fake.  I'd guess AI.

Big ole man hands on the old lady if it's real.

[arg]

  On 11/23/2023 at 9:59 PM, Lord Ratner said:

I'm still confused that anybody in the military would hold a general to some sort of higher expectation. If anything my experience demonstrates that they are less likely to impress. 

 

These are the people that taught themselves to love the taste of shit just so they could one day be a general. The ultimate "yes men". They were not promoted in the field due to battle competence.

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The list of them could be its own thread.

[Biff_T]

  On 11/23/2023 at 10:07 PM, FourFans said:

Wait...you're not calling dibs?

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It'd take a few pallets of Busch Heavy. 

[FourFans]

  On 11/24/2023 at 4:30 AM, Biff_T said:

It'd take a few pallets of Busch Heavy. 

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