What's wrong with the Air Force?

[Duck]

His speech to my SOS class was god awful, he probably single handedly validated most of the CGO's decision in the room to leave this failing force ASAP.
Someone asked the question about a pilot shortage and his response in a nutshell : "there is no pilot shortage, stop your whining."
Noted General sir.

Hilarious. He came to my base right before he left AETC and begged us senior Captains to give the Air Force a second chance.


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[ClearedHot]

I knew him well and bought into his BS when he was a Colonel. 

He gave some great speeches when he was the Commandant of the Weapons School and acted as if he genuinely cared, turns out it was nothing but empty words.  Get out...as soon as you can...seriously, run for the door while you still have an option, it is only going to get worse.

[matmacwc]

Me thinks you know something.

[Jaded]

Come on, this is the trust tree. We ready know that leadership doesn't read this board. 

[Bode]

Come on, this is the trust tree. We ready know that leadership doesn't read this board. 

I bet some do and when they see something they don't like the just ignore it... unless they are the prior Laughlin wing king to which he will hunt you down and destroy your career for drug use. (Too soon?)


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[Clark Griswold]

As this is a thread on what is wrong with the AF, I offer a movie on that theme, basically about a GO trying to cover up his crime, using his power and influence and the culture of officers that sometimes fight it and others that enable it.

Sole Survivor from 1970.  Found on Youtube - worth 1+30 of your time if sitting SOF, faking work, etc...

 

[Duck]

Two gems tonight from the Air Force Magazine Daily Report...

Air Force Exceeds Recruiting, Retention Goal —BRIAN EVERSTINE

The number of Active Duty airmen currently in service has exceeded the Air Force's goal for Fiscal 2017, thanks to an increased effort on recruitment and retention. There are about 317,800 airmen in uniform, up from 309,000 a year ago—that's 800 more than its stated goal of 317,000, said Lt. Gen. Gina Grosso, the service's deputy chief of staff for manpower. Speaking at an AFA-sponsored, Air Force event Wednesday in Arlington, Va., Grosso said many inside the Defense Department, and in the Air Force itself, didn't think it could grow its ranks that quickly. But fast work inside Air Education and Training Command enabled the service to exceed its goals, Grosso said. Air Force Secretary Deborah Lee James has placed a high focus on building the ranks, which she said dropped too low because of budget constraints. James told reporters earlier this year she was considering enacting a little-known law that enabled her to bolster the service's end strength by up to two percent—or as many as 6,340 airmen—above congressional mandates.

 

 

Is Uniformity Needed for All in Uniform? —BRIAN EVERSTINE

The Air Force is thinking outside of the box and is considering relaxing its fitness standards for some career fields or changing its tattoo policy in an effort to broaden its recruiting pool. Lt. Gen. Gina Grosso, the service's deputy chief of staff for manpower, said USAF needs to "think deliberately about how we value uniformity." Standards across the entire force "scares a lot of people," she said during an AFA-sponsored, Air Force event Wednesday in Arlington, Va. "Do I care what a cyber warrior weighs?" Grosso asked, adding if someone who works on cyber networks needs to focus as much on their mile and a half time. Similarly, does the Air Force need to enforce standards related to tattoos the same way now? "Do I care that someone has a flower on their arm?" Grosso said. Still, the service must make sure it doesn't stray too far from the requirements it has had for decades. "We're certainly going to need some people who are brawny, and we're also going to need some people for their intellect as well," she said.

 

Hello early 2000s?

 

[tk1313]

6 hours ago, Duck said:

Two gems tonight from the Air Force Magazine Daily Report...

Air Force Exceeds Recruiting, Retention Goal —BRIAN EVERSTINE

The number of Active Duty airmen currently in service has exceeded the Air Force's goal for Fiscal 2017, thanks to an increased effort on recruitment and retention. There are about 317,800 airmen in uniform, up from 309,000 a year ago—that's 800 more than its stated goal of 317,000, said Lt. Gen. Gina Grosso, the service's deputy chief of staff for manpower. Speaking at an AFA-sponsored, Air Force event Wednesday in Arlington, Va., Grosso said many inside the Defense Department, and in the Air Force itself, didn't think it could grow its ranks that quickly. But fast work inside Air Education and Training Command enabled the service to exceed its goals, Grosso said. Air Force Secretary Deborah Lee James has placed a high focus on building the ranks, which she said dropped too low because of budget constraints. James told reporters earlier this year she was considering enacting a little-known law that enabled her to bolster the service's end strength by up to two percent—or as many as 6,340 airmen—above congressional mandates.

 

 

Is Uniformity Needed for All in Uniform? —BRIAN EVERSTINE

The Air Force is thinking outside of the box and is considering relaxing its fitness standards for some career fields or changing its tattoo policy in an effort to broaden its recruiting pool. Lt. Gen. Gina Grosso, the service's deputy chief of staff for manpower, said USAF needs to "think deliberately about how we value uniformity." Standards across the entire force "scares a lot of people," she said during an AFA-sponsored, Air Force event Wednesday in Arlington, Va. "Do I care what a cyber warrior weighs?" Grosso asked, adding if someone who works on cyber networks needs to focus as much on their mile and a half time. Similarly, does the Air Force need to enforce standards related to tattoos the same way now? "Do I care that someone has a flower on their arm?" Grosso said. Still, the service must make sure it doesn't stray too far from the requirements it has had for decades. "We're certainly going to need some people who are brawny, and we're also going to need some people for their intellect as well," she said.

 

Hello early 2000s?

 

I read the second article as "well, we struck out with the hottest chick in school, but we still need to have fun after prom so... we'll settle for an average-looking chick from another school"

[SuperWSO]

I've heard this argument numerous times, especially in regard to Cyber.  I work with some incredibly smart airmen who can all pass the PT test. I do not want to give up our standards to get a couple fat hackers on the team.  That is what contractors are for.

[Duck]

It only makes sense. The stricter PT standards all came upon as a force management tool during a period of high retention. Now that retention sucks, regardless of what the other article says, it's time to relax the standards... give me a freaking break...


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[HeloDude]

4 minutes ago, Duck said:

It only makes sense. The stricter PT standards all came upon as a force management tool during a period of high retention. Now that retention sucks, regardless of what the other article says, it's time to relax the standards... give me a freaking break...

This is part of it, but here's the other part that people are missing:  Relaxing obejctive standards (i.e. weight, PT standards, etc) gives AF management more subjective say on who gets retained, who gets separated, who does and does not get promoted, etc.    The AF has publicly admitted that one of their main goals is increasing diversity in certain jobs and ranks...well, having to navigate through objective standards can get in the way, especially when the pool of these diversified members is much smaller.  

[Duck]

Where does health of the member come in to play then? Isn't that what we were told? The Air Force cares about you. They want you to be healthy and happy. Surely they didn't use the PT program as a lazy way to "fix" the end strength numbers...


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[ClearedHot]

1 hour ago, Duck said:

Where does health of the member come in to play then? Isn't that what we were told? The Air Force cares about you. They want you to be healthy and happy. Surely they didn't use the PT program as a lazy way to "fix" the end strength numbers...


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The Air Force does NOT care about you, they care about increased health care costs as it impacts the bottomline.

The way the seniors spew the core values is ohhh sooo Ironic given the lasted indicators.  Internal memos calling to relax standards at Fighter RTUs...relax PT standards...what next...drug standards.

The way we manage people is absolutely laughable.

 

[panchbarnes]

Dear AF Leaders and HR,

Thank you for letting us know how much you care by nonchalantly dismissing a workplace survey, in which many man-hours were spent to complete. 

We will now adopt your response whenever we get task saturated: "To be frank, that got lost in the shuffle. There's nothing controversial in it. It just got lost in all the things that we're doing."

Sincerely,

The Serfs

https://www.airforcetimes.com/articles/climate-survey-results-not-released

'When asked about the climate survey results after an Air Force Association breakfast Wednesday, Air Force personnel chief Lt. Gen. Gina Grosso said, "To be frank, that got lost in the shuffle. There's nothing controversial in it. It just got lost in all the things that we're doing."'

[panchbarnes]

8 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

 Internal memos calling to relax standards at Fighter RTUs...relax PT standards...what next...drug standards.

"And Grosso suggested that the Air Force may eventually change some of its rules regarding HIV. Currently, anyone who is HIV-positive cannot be assessed into the Air Force, but with increasing advancements in treatment, Grosso said that could change in the future. "

https://www.airforcetimes.com/articles/officer-evaluation-overhaul

[Duck]

Dear AF Leaders and HR,
Thank you for letting us know how much you care by nonchalantly dismissing a workplace survey, in which many man-hours were spent to complete. 
We will now adopt your response whenever we get task saturated: "To be frank, that got lost in the shuffle. There's nothing controversial in it. It just got lost in all the things that we're doing."
Sincerely,
The Serfs
https://www.airforcetimes.com/articles/climate-survey-results-not-released
'When asked about the climate survey results after an Air Force Association breakfast Wednesday, Air Force personnel chief Lt. Gen. Gina Grosso said, "To be frank, that got lost in the shuffle. There's nothing controversial in it. It just got lost in all the things that we're doing."'

Holy Hell... what a crock of sheet. That's a lame excuse for a coverup.

"Well we just didn't get around to looking at it"
"There's nothing controversial in it... pinky promise"
"We think our peeps are just over surveyed..."

I know how me and all my bros answered it... honestly, with the unvarnished truth of our view of the Air Force and its senior leadership. I guess we hurt their feelings that no one wants to be in their stupid little club anymore.




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[Boilermaker]

So on a somewhat separate note, I was curious if any of you have seen this yet? I have a bit of a personal interest in military history, tactics, strategy etc... and I thought I'd like to do a little reading up on the topic. I thought to myself, no need to reinvent the wheel, surely there is a shortlist of must reads that already exists on this topic to get me started. Then I remembered one of the CSAF AF wide emails that referenced a reading list. A short google search later and here it is. Thing is, I'm honestly not surprised, but it just put it in a new light. I text the link to my dad who served in the 70s and 80s. His response, "ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? ing pussies all of them!!!!" Couldn't have said it better myself. Reality hits you hard bro.

https://static.dma.mil/usaf/csafreadinglist/index.html

For anyone who doesn't take the time, a quick summary of some of the leading titles

How to Overcome our Biases? Walk Boldly Toward Them

Why We Have Too Few Women Leaders

How Great Leaders Inspire Action

[tac airlifter]

27 minutes ago, Boilermaker said:

 Then I remembered one of the CSAF AF wide emails that referenced a reading list. A short google search later and here it is. 

https://static.dma.mil/usaf/csafreadinglist/index.html

For anyone who doesn't take the time, a quick summary of some of the leading titles

How to Overcome our Biases? Walk Boldly Toward Them

Why We Have Too Few Women Leaders

How Great Leaders Inspire Action

I don't disagree with your sentiment or that of your dad, but in the name of accuracy--- those aren't titles of the CSAF reading list.  Those are featured TED talks.  The books are Here.  And they're mostly pretty good.

[SurelySerious]

If looking for some reading recommendations and haven't seen it, Mattis has a few words on the matter:
https://www.businessinsider.com/viral-james-mattis-email-reading-marines-2013-5

[GKinnear]

1 hour ago, gearpig said:

From JQP's latest article:

You Have Got To Be Shitting Me.

Well it's no surprise Sky Cops need to be taught how to put one on...now they just need to figure out where to stick it!

[Boilermaker]

6 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

I don't disagree with your sentiment or that of your dad, but in the name of accuracy--- those aren't titles of the CSAF reading list.  Those are featured TED talks.  The books are Here.  And they're mostly pretty good.

I will concede that many of the physical books look to be descent. But the TED talks are part of the "reading list" and are ridiculous. Further I'd point out, when you first go to the reading list, does it take you to the books page? No, it takes you to the Home tab, and what is featured front and center? Not the books, but the TED Talks. I do find it ironic that of the short list of 12 books 2 of them are about eating right while as referenced above they are discussing relaxing PT standards. 

Edited October 22, 2016 by Boilermaker
Add TED Talks being front and center

[Boilermaker]

6 hours ago, SurelySerious said:

If looking for some reading recommendations and haven't seen it, Mattis has a few words on the matter:
https://www.businessinsider.com/viral-james-mattis-email-reading-marines-2013-5

No, I hadn't seen this, but I'll check it out. Thanks for the info.

[guineapigfury]

3 hours ago, gearpig said:

From JQP's latest article:

You Have Got To Be Shitting Me.

This is negative training.  Those wooden dildos should be twice as large, blue, and the condoms should be sandpaper instead of latex.

[Duck]

And then they should shove it up their own... that way they know what's in store for them in Big Blue.


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[Prosuper]

Maybe it's a self gratification class on how to not make a mess in the tent, that would be useful.