What's wrong with the Air Force?

[Lawman]

Because I gave you a date of my previous career field, you assume I'm not in the loop?

When there is icing and thunderstorms in theater, manned aircraft still launch. If it ain't icing or storms trying to kill me, its a controller going an RPA went lost link and we don't know where they are as you say internally WTF and start scanning outside the jet.

 

Because it shows a lack of honesty on some of the more interesting things RPAs have been doing recently and are doing right now. There is plenty going on right now today with drones and other tools that resembles far more closely the scary scenarios than the permissive scenario of putting a predator orbit over a mud hut in Afghanistan for days on end.

 

Everybody wants to scream "RPAs aren't mature for the near peer fight" well after 15 years of coin-centric warfare neither is probably 60% of the military. The Army has only just been getting its shit in a sock to do Brigade level maneuver warfare again. I've been in units where my senior NCOs don't know how to put up a GP medium because up until now they've never had to.

 

But if you or others want to sit here and pretend that the RPA structure from tactical to strategic is just gonna throw up it's hands and say "we can't play" either you're inventing a scenario that doesn't exist or ignoring the laundry list of other systems/players/platforms that are going to be just as screwed or have to work around just as many issues in the nightmare worst case WWIII fight.

 

 

 

[cantfly]

4 minutes ago, Lawman said:

 

Because it shows a lack of SA on some of the more interesting things RPAs have been doing recently and are doing right now. There is plenty going on right now today with drones and other tools that resembles far more closely the scary scenarios than the permissive scenario of putting a predator orbit over a mud hut in Afghanistan for days on end.

Everybody wants to scream "RPAs aren't mature for the near peer fight" well after 15 years of coin-centric warfare neither is probably 60% of the military. The Army has only just been getting its shit in a sock to do Brigade level maneuver warfare again. I've been in units where my senior NCOs don't know how to put up a GP medium because up until now they've never had to.

But if you want to sit here and pretend that the RPA structure from tactical to strategic is just gonna throw up it's hands and say "we can't play" either you're inventing a scenario that doesn't exist or ignoring the laundry list of other systems/players/platforms that are going to be just as screwed or have to work around just as many issues in the nightmare worst case WWIII fight.

 

 

When the AF starts sending the E's to RPAs, they will be responsible for crashing them all. Doing every pilot a huge favor. I would sign off on a medal for that.

[BashiChuni]

35 minutes ago, cantfly said:

Would you rather me say get on NSA net because nobody here has access to it unless you are based in Maryland?

I didn't think "get into the vault" could be trumped but this post does it 

[mcbush]

3 hours ago, cantfly said:

When the AF starts sending the E's to RPAs, they will be responsible for crashing them all. Doing every pilot a huge favor. I would sign off on a medal for that.

I don't think anyone has any idea what you're talking about anymore. 

[tac airlifter]

2 minutes ago, mcbush said:

I don't think anyone has any idea what you're talking about anymore. 

Dude, it all makes perfect sense.  You just need to spend some time in the NSA vault in Maryland.  

[Homestar]

4 hours ago, Guardian said:

While objectively that's how it should work.....subjectively it doesn't.


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I always assumed they had a dart board in the 365 office and tacked a list of names up and threw a dart when they got put in a bind. I was hit with a 365 with just 10 years of service because I happened to check a bunch of boxes on the line remarks for the position. I was probably the only one on a 365 without prior E experience in that little corner of Afghanistan. 

Edited May 3, 2017 by Homestar

[Guardian]

Dude, it all makes perfect sense.  You just need to spend some time in the NSA vault in Maryland.  

Classified Sword fight!!!!! 🤺


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[Homestar]

Cliffs Notes:

Root Cause 1: The airlines are hiring like mad.

Root Cause 2: Demographic trends make it hard to be a military pilot.

Root Cause 3: We have been in a steady-state of crisis for 15+ years.

Root Cause 4: Despite that ongoing state of war, we have been under constant budget pressure and our job security has been at risk.

Second Order Cause 1: Military Pilots do shockingly little flying.

Second Order Cause 2: It isn’t about the money, but the Air Force made it about the money.

Second Order Cause 3: The Air Force organizational structure is not designed to retain pilots if they are not tracking to command and promotion to senior management ranks.

Second Order Cause 4: The Air Force personnel and manpower apparatus lacks the ability to maintain the “right” number of pilots at the “right” experience level.

 

I'm actually thinking of copy/pasting this and emailing it to Gen Everhart's suggestions box.

[cantfly]

12 minutes ago, Homestar said:

Cliffs Notes:

Root Cause 1: The airlines are hiring like mad.

Root Cause 2: Demographic trends make it hard to be a military pilot.

Root Cause 3: We have been in a steady-state of crisis for 15+ years.

Root Cause 4: Despite that ongoing state of war, we have been under constant budget pressure and our job security has been at risk.

Second Order Cause 1: Military Pilots do shockingly little flying.

Second Order Cause 2: It isn’t about the money, but the Air Force made it about the money.

Second Order Cause 3: The Air Force organizational structure is not designed to retain pilots if they are not tracking to command and promotion to senior management ranks.

Second Order Cause 4: The Air Force personnel and manpower apparatus lacks the ability to maintain the “right” number of pilots at the “right” experience level.

 

I'm actually thinking of copy/pasting this and emailing it to Gen Everhart's suggestions box.

Make sure you start your email off with "BLUF." If you don't, you will get a response from him or one of his exes with a cc sent to your CC about proper decorum and using BLUF in emails.

I saw BLUF in an email sent to the OG and the deputies the other day. I couldn't stop LMAO because I never begin my emails to them with BLUF. I include all the details in plain writing so one of our non flying deputies will understand. 

Edited May 3, 2017 by cantfly

[VMFA187]

51 minutes ago, cantfly said:

There are no vaults at the agency. Try calling the buildings there SCIFs. There is a huge difference between a building that's a SCIF and a building with a vault. They don't have a single person with a flight suit running through the buildings there and none of the squadron CCs are pilots .So you haven't been at liberty to see what I have in my 18 year career. When you have to take a polygraph and PASS to get access to the building in order to find out what I know, then we can talk more....truth.

If a Tact Airlifter needs access to TS, then we are all in trouble.

I may be the only one of this mindset, but does anyone here really care to set foot in that building? If there isn't a single person with a flight suit running around, there isn't a single reason I want to be in there.

[matmacwc]

People that know real things know they cannot brag about it, you under estimate most of us.

[Guardian]

Not me! I'm pretty stupid.


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[Duck]

People know me... I'm a pretty big deal...


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[matmacwc]

Fuck that, I'm the boss, everyone knows me.

[Cooter]

2 hours ago, gearpig said:

Surely there is some part of you that wants to take a polygraph, if only to impress people on the internet.

[Clark Griswold]

4 hours ago, Homestar said:

Cliffs Notes:

Root Cause 1: The airlines are hiring like mad.

Root Cause 2: Demographic trends make it hard to be a military pilot.

Root Cause 3: We have been in a steady-state of crisis for 15+ years.

Root Cause 4: Despite that ongoing state of war, we have been under constant budget pressure and our job security has been at risk.

Second Order Cause 1: Military Pilots do shockingly little flying.

Second Order Cause 2: It isn’t about the money, but the Air Force made it about the money.

Second Order Cause 3: The Air Force organizational structure is not designed to retain pilots if they are not tracking to command and promotion to senior management ranks.

Second Order Cause 4: The Air Force personnel and manpower apparatus lacks the ability to maintain the “right” number of pilots at the “right” experience level.

I'm actually thinking of copy/pasting this and emailing it to Gen Everhart's suggestions box.

Not a bad article, similar to points made in other articles but cracking the edifice of stagnation, stubbornness, delusion and intransigence will take multiple hammer blows of common sense arguments, data and public humiliation of AF HR management of late.

Would have added to his Root Causes:  

The AF went expensive on the planes, cheap on Airmen; pitting human capitol for machine capitol. An apples for oranges trade that made multiple problems (cultural, force structure, loss of institutional respect/trust, etc...).  

Edited May 4, 2017 by Clark Griswold

[17D_guy]

4 hours ago, cantfly said:

Make sure you start your email off with "BLUF." If you don't, you will get a response from him or one of his exes with a cc sent to your CC about proper decorum and using BLUF in emails.

I saw BLUF in an email sent to the OG and the deputies the other day. I couldn't stop LMAO because I never begin my emails to them with BLUF. I include all the details in plain writing so one of our non flying deputies will understand. 

I know the BLUF emails get hate on here.  But having to deal with the current crop of Maj-Cols (sometimes 1-stars) and (MSgts-E9) that won't just get to the point, I understand why they now exist.  So many "Commanders" want to have a discussions about a problem and solution they're not going to own any part of.  So, we've got to sit there for 40 min while they hash it out, talking past each other with no resolution but tons of quibbling and requests for guidance, prioritization and pointing out where provided written guidance is lacking.

Ugh, I hate this job.  I told you guys our "cyber operators" get crew rest for a 5 hour sortie, right?

I generally just tell my Airman to give me the information in tweet length and problem solved.

[dream big]

5 hours ago, cantfly said:

There are no vaults at the agency. Try calling the buildings there SCIFs. There is a huge difference between a building that's a SCIF and a building with a vault. They don't have a single person with a flight suit running through the buildings there and none of the squadron CCs are pilots .So you haven't been at liberty to see what I have in my 18 year career. When you have to take a polygraph and PASS to get access to the building in order to find out what I know, then we can talk more....truth.

If a Tact Airlifter needs access to TS, then we are all in trouble.

Are you retarded? You clearly know zero about tac airlift or anything for that matter.  Go with quals, besides the NSA d*** measuring; or do us all a favor and STFU

[BashiChuni]

Uh he's gonna have to be in a vault to say his quals.... he knows ts info guys. This is a big deal. 

[Lawman]

Surely there is some part of you that wants to take a polygraph, if only to impress people on the internet.

I do t k ow why you would need that or all this other access.

According to him all you need to do is grow up "next too" an Army base and you'll know all the details of how Attack Aviation works and it's shortcomings.

That's how despite no actual experience I know how to assemble a GMC Sierra pickup. There was a GM plant in the town I grew up in.


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[Duck]

I remember when I got my TS...


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[VMFA187]

11 minutes ago, Duck said:

I remember when I got my TS...


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I feel like you may be my kindred AF spirit.

[FUSEPLUG]

Oh my God this is boring!  Can we get back to the AF sport-bitching already?!

[tk1313]

Toro incoming...

[Guardian]

This stuff is falling exactly in line with the title of the post. I bet a lot of shit would get worked out if we were physically in the same place with some beers and zero retribution. People are afraid to fight but not afraid to post anonymous stuff. And regardless of which side you're on, we all let it happen.


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