What's wrong with the Air Force?

[pelexecute]

Having to stop for 15 min, after the end of a long-ass day, to have my vehicle inspected while LEAVING the base. 

[Duck]

Having to stop for 15 min, after the end of a long-ass day, to have my vehicle inspected while LEAVING the base. 

Yeah, never understood that and it always pissed me off because they always stop me when I’m running late for something.

[ThreeHoler]

Yeah, never understood that and it always pissed me off because they always stop me when I’m running late for something.

If they are stopping people leaving base it is probably due to an alarm somewhere like the pharmacy or other area of concern.

[pelexecute]

54 minutes ago, ThreeHoler said:

 

If they are stopping people leaving base it is probably due to an alarm somewhere like the pharmacy or other area of concern.

 

No, totally random. 50 cars will go by, then they just mosey into traffic and wave some poor soul to the side. 

[LookieRookie]

5 hours ago, ThreeHoler said:

 

If they are stopping people leaving base it is probably due to an alarm somewhere like the pharmacy or other area of concern.

 

Just a RAM Key SecFo is running.

[isuguy1234]

Don't they ask you if you authorize the search??  You can say no...........once.  I imagine that will be an offering to make sure your blues still fit though, and still be searched anyway.

[Fuzz]

I got stopped leaving one time and they asked if I would consent and responded “since you are asking, what if i say no?”. Apparently they revoke your base driving privileges.

[HossHarris]

Boolshit. 

If they want to press the search the base magistrate can authorize a no consent search. 

If they don’t want to press the search, or bug the O6, or go thru the hassle, you’ll be released. 

It will take time either way. 

Never consent to a search. 

(Not pyb)

[magnetfreezer]

Boolshit. 
If they want to press the search the base magistrate can authorize a no consent search. 
If they don’t want to press the search, or bug the O6, or go thru the hassle, you’ll be released. 
It will take time either way. 
Never consent to a search. 
(Not pyb)

Was told by a cop once that civilians would be denied from base... Mil article 92 or something similar for "failure to obey the instructions of a sentry" or something similar. Not a JAG but sounds sketchy for forced consent. They do have the right to search for force protection per the standard base signage but unknown how that interacts with the search/consent/admissibility deal.

[Stitch]

On 3/11/2018 at 7:58 AM, pelexecute said:

Having to stop for 15 min, after the end of a long-ass day, to have my vehicle inspected while LEAVING the base. 

Had that happen to me once at Bitburg back about 1986ish. Dead ass tired after working mid-shift getting jets ready to fly finally headed home and got tagged for an exit inspection at the gate.  So sky cop with his big-ass dog start ‘inspecting’ my vehicle.  Fido alerts on something under the driver’s seat and the cop has one of those “got ya’ looks on his face for his first ‘kill’ of the day.  I’m freaking out.  Cop reaches under the seat and finds… a half-eaten bag of Oreo’s. The now pissed-off and hugely disappointed cop slaps his faithful K-9 on its nugget and cuts me lose…   Good times.

 

[BFM this]

Had my work laptop on the passenger seat when I got stopped once.  Amn Snuffy reading from his clipboard "Sir, the reason we stopped you [lots of words] searching for contraband, government property...[more words]...do you understand the briefing?"  Yes, go bananas {while I stand there checking FB on my phone}.  

Search over.  "Sir you are free to go."   Uuuuuhhhhh, can you read me that part about what you're looking for again?  "[words]...government property...[words]" . Ok, so...nuthin?  No?  You sure?  Final answer?  Hokay then, deuces!

No shit.  Bradley Manning could have been driving off base with the motherload.  Theater.

[ClearedHot]

I pulled out of the base gas station one day and TSgt Snuffy passes me going the opposite direction as I took a drink from the bottle I just purchased at the shopette.  I immediately hear a siren and look back to see him powerslide his patrol car, fishtail his cruiser on the shoulder with dirt, rocks, and grass flying everywhere.  Lights blazing he comes raging up behind me so I pull over.  He nearly runs to my side of the car and starts yelling, "I got you Sirrrrrr, I got you!" Ummmm Huh? You got me doing what TSgt?  "I got you drinking and driving Sirrrrrrrr, I saw you drinking that beer you have in your lap!!#%^$*"  I take a deep breath and reply "Hey Sargeeeeee, do you mean this ROOT beer?  He looked at the bottle three times, his head rocking sideways like a confused dog.  He didn't say another work, he just walked away.

[HossHarris]

4 hours ago, magnetfreezer said:

5 hours ago, HossHarris said:

Boolshit. 
If they want to press the search the base magistrate can authorize a no consent search. 
If they don’t want to press the search, or bug the O6, or go thru the hassle, you’ll be released. 
It will take time either way. 
Never consent to a search. 
(Not pyb)

Was told by a cop once that civilians would be denied from base... Mil article 92 or something similar for "failure to obey the instructions of a sentry" or something similar. Not a JAG but sounds sketchy for forced consent. They do have the right to search for force protection per the standard base signage but unknown how that interacts with the search/consent/admissibility deal.

Yes, everyone on base is subject to search. Big sign out front says so. 

 

However, airman 60 IQ is not vested with the authority to make a non-consensual search outside very specific situations. That authority is delegated to the base magistrate .... a hat that rotates amongst O6s. 

Ask a Jag...or call the law enforcement desk (SF ops desk) and inquire (it’s a number you should have in your phone anyway)

[matmacwc]

I got searched 4 days in a row going to work at DLF, same contract SF member, I took his badge number and complained to my SQ/CC that day.  I never got searched again.

[HuggyU2]

I'm doing about 60 in a 45 on Beale, and go beak-to-beak with a mil cop.  No indication on my radar detector, however. 

I see the brake lights, and he reverses.  I immediately pull over.  

He comes to the window: "Sir, I had you doing 61 in a 45" (I guess he had a good eyeball... pretty accurate).

Me:  "I'd like to see your radar screen, because my radar detector never went off."

Him:  "Sir, radar detectors are not allowed on Beale"

Me:  "While that may be true, I'd like you to explain to my commander... and yours... how you got me doing 61 mph, using an X-band radar that didn't activate my radar detector."

Him (flustered and agitated):  "Have a nice day, sir", and walks off.  

[MDDieselPilot]

Are searches still a thing? I haven't been searched since Randolph in 2004/5.  Guards would usually ask if I had time for a search since they had to do so many per hour.. They were pretty chill about it so I didn't mind.

[pawnman]

12 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

I'm doing about 60 in a 45 on Beale, and go beak-to-beak with a mil cop.  No indication on my radar detector, however. 

I see the brake lights, and he reverses.  I immediately pull over.  

He comes to the window: "Sir, I had you doing 61 in a 45" (I guess he had a good eyeball... pretty accurate).

Me:  "I'd like to see your radar screen, because my radar detector never went off."

Him:  "Sir, radar detectors are not allowed on Beale"

Me:  "While that may be true, I'd like you to explain to my commander... and yours... how you got me doing 61 mph, using an X-band radar that didn't activate my radar detector."

Him (flustered and agitated):  "Have a nice day, sir", and walks off.  

You lucked out. Here at Dyess, having a radar detector is an automatic suspension of driving privileges.

[pawnman]

20 hours ago, HossHarris said:

Boolshit. 

If they want to press the search the base magistrate can authorize a no consent search. 

If they don’t want to press the search, or bug the O6, or go thru the hassle, you’ll be released. 

It will take time either way. 

Never consent to a search. 

(Not pyb)

Well, they'll let you leave the base. But they won't let that vehicle back in the base.

[HossHarris]

54 minutes ago, pawnman said:

Well, they'll let you leave the base. But they won't let that vehicle back in the base.

Sure. 

Because you see the sky cops running license plates at the gate all the time ....

[SocialD]

Reading this makes my nugget hurt and makes me thankful I'm on a stand alone Guard base.  Knowing almost every SP by name is great...especially when you leave your ID in the computer.  In 17 years on the same base, I have never seen/heard of cars being searched on the way out of base.  Hell they cant even write tickets.   

This just made me all the more pissed off during a recent visit to an AD base. One particular night after a long debrief, I ended up having to play their mickey mouse game of a car search while trying to leave base.  They didn't seem impressed with all the red solo cups of jack n' cokes in the van, but didn't fuck with us for them...so that was nice.  

Edited March 14, 2018 by SocialD

[isuguy1234]

“Red solo cup, I fill u up, let’s have a party!!!......oh wait they’re searching us!!  Oh well, no more Fs to give.”

[Bergman]

On 3/14/2018 at 5:15 PM, SocialD said:

Reading this makes my nugget hurt and makes me thankful I'm on a stand alone Guard base.  Knowing almost every SP by name is great...especially when you leave your ID in the computer.  In 17 years on the same base, I have never seen/heard of cars being searched on the way out of base.  Hell they cant even write tickets.   

This just made me all the more pissed off during a recent visit to an AD base. One particular night after a long debrief, I ended up having to play their mickey mouse game of a car search while trying to leave base.  They didn't seem impressed with all the red solo cups of jack n' cokes in the van, but didn't fuck with us for them...so that was nice.  

Same here.  16 years between two ANG bases and never been searched leaving the base.

I have, however, been searched getting on the base several times.  The guards say, "Just go ahead and unload your handguns and put them on the front seat.  We won't take them" 

Gotta love the Guard.  Sometimes.

[MDDieselPilot]

Just got this automated email gem today:

I swear it wasn't 6 months ago I heard AFPC was looking at majors in the 2004/5 STRD timeframe for non-vols.  Now it's '07?  Looks like pick'ns are slim and they're having to jump ahead to source enough folks.

If you check out the 365 list, the 11Gs are damn near all "advisor" roles.. one lucky SOB gets to be an exercise planner at the deid.

 

Rated Staff 365 day Contingency Deployment Non-Volunteer Sourcing will begin 2 April 2018.

Initially 0-5s with a STRD of 2001 or earlier will be vulnerable.
Initially 0-4s with a STRD of 2007 or earlier will be vulnerable.
Initially 0-3s with a STRD of 2008 or earlier will be vulnerable.

Vulnerability is based on number of Short Tours,Short Tour Return Date (STRD),Overseas Duty Selection Date (ODSD) and Contingency Deployments over 45 days in the last five years, in that order.

 

 

Edited March 22, 2018 by MDDieselPilot

[Champ Kind]

Can someone help me out and explain why the Died needs an exercise planner? Isn’t that a forward deployed base because we execute from there?

[MDDieselPilot]

Allow myself to correct... myself.

It's called "Chief Exercises", not planner.  My bad.  I'm sure the ending result 365 day hell will be just the same for someone, though.