What's wrong with the Air Force?

[Mark1]

 

On 9/17/2018 at 9:42 PM, Sua Sponte said:

He was a BUFF guy previously and OSI found out he was banging a SrA while deployed to Guam before he went to XL.

https://afcca.law.af.mil/content/afcca_opinions/cp/hill-38979.u.pdf

 

On 9/18/2018 at 4:35 PM, hindsight2020 said:

Quick FB search shows they're still together.

Can anybody who's familiar with this guy tell me where he went to college (or PM me his FB page would work as well, I suppose)?  I remember hearing the story back when it happened, but never connected with the name.  Seeing it now, I think I may have known him back in college.  The guy I'm thinking of had the same name and he tracked BUFFs, but we weren't friends so I lost track of him at that point.  Fairly common name so I suppose it could be another person.

Would just like to know out of morbid curiosity.

[D_Vezencuando]

On ‎9‎/‎20‎/‎2018 at 3:05 AM, dream big said:

“The composition of flight squadrons needs to reflect the entire U.S. population...”

My unwanted $ 0.02...

0+30 of Thomas Sowell would slow, maybe derail, the "under/over-represented" argument. But I suspect the good General's message relates to women (about 50% of us, right?) in AFSC's with combat leadership potential. In 1993, Secretary Wilson tackled the Women in Combat debate on TV (Firing Line, Resolved: That Women in the Military Should Be Excluded from Combat"). Perhaps Leadership is looking for a 25-year milestone.     

[17D_guy]

On 9/22/2018 at 10:36 AM, pawnman said:

It's not necessarily about excluding them on purpose.  It's about presenting the Air Force and flight training as an option to communities that don't usually hear that kind of thing, and hoping a few of them get interested.  It's easy for a white boy from the suburbs of an Air Force base to get into the idea of joining to be a pilot.  It may be harder for a girl who, even in 2018, still hears "That's a man's job" or "model airplanes are boy's toys".  Similarly, in communities that are historically less educated, we can reach into those communities and show them the types of opportunities that exist for those willing to get an education.  We may even reach the point where, similar to what the Air Force does with lawyers and doctors, we start paying for high school candidates with a high aptitude for flight to get an undergraduate degree (aside from the highly competitive USAFA process).
I'm with you.  The idea that we should weed out white men because "we have to many" or that we should promote minorities "to increase representation" is just terrible reasoning all the way around.  I'm saying that we can do things to increase the number of minorities entering the service, giving us a greater number to pull from to fill those leadership positions/cockpits/etc.

For real.  When I go talk to kids in outlying communities from base that are in poorer sections and I mention the jobs we have and women aircrew I get a lot of "I didn't know we could do that." 

2018, kids have smartphones but don't know women can fly (in combat) for the USAF.

Go figure.  It's one of the reasons I don't hate the "First woman/ethnicity general/pilot/crew to do XXX." Gets the word out and generally opens the youths eyes to something they might have historically (or culturally) been barred from or not considered.

[HarleyQuinn]

Just going to put this here. I know it doesn't belong in this thread..https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2018/09/24/power-couple-wife-of-airman-who-survived-most-severe-wounds-in-history-vying-for-cover-of-maxim-magazine/

[gearhog]

6 hours ago, HarleyQuinn said:

Just going to put this here. I know it doesn't belong in this thread..https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2018/09/24/power-couple-wife-of-airman-who-survived-most-severe-wounds-in-history-vying-for-cover-of-maxim-magazine/

Apparently, he lost two legs but only needs one prosthesis to walk.

Edited September 25, 2018 by torqued

[HarleyQuinn]

16 hours ago, torqued said:

Apparently, he lost two legs but only needs one prosthesis to walk.

Your mind went straight into the gutter.. LMAO. I know you looked at his wife photos and asked yourself who paid for those.....

Edited September 26, 2018 by HarleyQuinn

[MooseAg03]

Good for him, he’s got a smokin’ hot wife and two adorable kids. He deserves to live the rest of his life doing whatever he wants and enjoying his family.


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[Hopefulflyer389]

1 hour ago, MooseAg03 said:

Good for him, he’s got a smokin’ hot wife and two adorable kids. He deserves to live the rest of his life doing whatever he wants and enjoying his family.


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Hear, hear 🍺

[Sprkt69]

Anyone else see this?

https://warontherocks.com/2018/09/difficult-decisions-practical-policy-for-the-air-forces-pilot-retention-crisis/

It seems to me that they get too focused on the fly-only track and not about the “time” issue everyone seems to be having issues with.

[matmacwc]

On 9/24/2018 at 8:21 PM, HarleyQuinn said:

Just going to put this here. I know it doesn't belong in this thread..https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2018/09/24/power-couple-wife-of-airman-who-survived-most-severe-wounds-in-history-vying-for-cover-of-maxim-magazine/

Damn son

[FUSEPLUG]

//BREAK BREAK//

Not to sound like a whiney Guard guy...

But as a whiney Guard guy... did this 5-day-long down time for the MyPay system fuck anyone else over?  Long story short - I worked a few days for the unit 3 weeks ago. While waiting on the check, the system went down which seems to have drawn out the timeline from periods worked until pay received.  I'm not paying the mortgage based on the MyPay system, but my wife's trips to Target are another story.  

Meanwhile, Uncle Herb has paid me twice, and precisely on time. Just curious if this has screwed over anyone else (especially the full time guys/gals).

 

 

 

[Prosuper]

On 9/30/2018 at 8:47 AM, matmacwc said:

Damn son

Wow! No wonder he was so motivated to overcome injuries, I bet when he had a chance to be coherent to know how damaged he was he did a package check. 

[matmacwc]

14 hours ago, Prosuper said:

Wow! No wonder he was so motivated to overcome injuries, I bet when he had a chance to be coherent to know how damaged he was he did a package check. 

There was a guy in that story?

[Stitch]

17 hours ago, Prosuper said:

Wow! No wonder he was so motivated to overcome injuries, I bet when he had a chance to be coherent to know how damaged he was he did a package check. 

And I'll bet he (they) were happy campers when he found out everything was OPS Ck good, green em' up FMC. 

[HarleyQuinn]

I need you guys to check me. I think I'm in shoe clerk hell. Rant light on:

"If airmen can't complete said obstacle course, they can't graduate. They should be on medical hold. While at this obstacle course they need to practice MOPP and combative skills training to graduate blah blah.."

Me: Enlisted airmen aren't the ones taking out the bad guys based on my deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan unless they are a JTAC or a Sensor Operator. I don't think the CSAF is going to be happy you held a pharmacy tech back because they rolled an ankle and couldn't do an obstacle course. Chances are the CSAF doesn't want to wait 2 hours to pick up his medication at the pharmacy just like the rest of us. Is a rolled ankle going to prevent you from completing tech school to hand out meds? No, then he or she should graduate. The same could be said about  other AFSCs in the AF. Before you deploy you typically receive the training you actually need. 

Am I out of order with my thinking?

Edited November 8, 2018 by HarleyQuinn

[ViperStud]

2 hours ago, HarleyQuinn said:

I need you guys to check me. I think I'm in shoe clerk hell. Rant light on:

"If airmen can't complete said obstacle course, they can't graduate. They should be on medical hold. While at this obstacle course they need to practice MOPP and combative skills training to graduate blah blah.."

Me: Enlisted airmen aren't the ones taking out the bad guys based on my deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan unless they are a JTAC or a Sensor Operator. I don't think the CSAF is going to be happy you held a pharmacy tech back because they rolled an ankle and couldn't do an obstacle course. Chances are he doesn't want to wait 2 hours to pick up his medication at the pharmacy just like the rest of us. Is a rolled ankle going to prevent you from completing tech school to hand out meds? No, then he or she should graduate. The same could be said about  other AFSCs in the AF. Before you deploy you typically receive the training you actually need. 

Am I out of order with my thinking?

You’re on point. I rolled my ankle playing hoops at ASBC eons ago. I asked my flight CC if I could skip one or two of their retarded “kill the bunny” exercises and just do everything else because my ankle was black/blue and hurt like hell. It was a bad sprain.

After “consulting” with the SQ/CC they thought it best that I just go home and come back again later if I couldn’t do EVERYTHING. I told the captain that he and the CC were clueless (which he didn’t appreciate from a Lt, if you can imagine that), sucked it up and stayed. AF leadership hasn’t changed much in 16 years. Sad. 

Edited November 8, 2018 by ViperStud

[HarleyQuinn]

1 hour ago, ViperStud said:

You’re on point. I rolled my ankle playing hoops at ASBC eons ago. I asked my flight CC if I could skip one or two of their retarded “kill the bunny” exercises and just do everything else because my ankle was black/blue and hurt like hell. It was a bad sprain.

After “consulting” with the SQ/CC they thought it best that I just go home and come back again later if I couldn’t do EVERYTHING. I told the captain that he and the CC were clueless (which he didn’t appreciate from a Lt, if you can imagine that), sucked it up and stayed. AF leadership hasn’t changed much in 16 years. Sad. 

ASBC died for a reason and only a moron would say you need to do anything at ASBC. ASBC was nothing but stolen syllabuses from ALS, the USAFA, and AFROTC. Kind of like someone asked me if you waive people to do said obstacle course what would happen to us that manage/instruct? I was like it would go away like ASBC. Teach them how to dodge flooding behind a B-hut in Afghanistan.

That's ironic because I injured my back toward the end of ASBC. Instructor said he never knew because I only spoke when necessary. We were like 0/5 for challenges until he put me in charge of one. My class told me I had to run for one of the final class competitions. We can come in first because you are fast they told me. I sucked it up and ran. I found out a year and a half later I ran on a herniated disc.

At SOS some 7 years later, I injure my back. I did the leadership course prior to the  injury. After the injury I was mostly a safety observer. I ran during the last week of SOS and I think one of my classmates got sick. Leadership was trying to pressure the guy to run. During my parting shot speech, I asked my class what happened to taking care of people? Who cares about points for a run because someone drops out. Absolute buffoonery...

One back surgery later, pushing through pain to run was probably not a good idea back in my younger days. It wasn't a back injury. It was a herniated disc pressing against a nerve.

 

Edited November 8, 2018 by HarleyQuinn

[Prozac]

Why does a pharmacy tech need to be a uniformed military member? Seriously. That question applies to any number of jobs. 

[viper154]

6 hours ago, HarleyQuinn said:

I need you guys to check me. I think I'm in shoe clerk hell. Rant light on:

"If airmen can't complete said obstacle course, they can't graduate. They should be on medical hold. While at this obstacle course they need to practice MOPP and combative skills training to graduate blah blah.."

Me: Enlisted airmen aren't the ones taking out the bad guys based on my deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan unless they are a JTAC or a Sensor Operator. I don't think the CSAF is going to be happy you held a pharmacy tech back because they rolled an ankle and couldn't do an obstacle course. Chances are the CSAF doesn't want to wait 2 hours to pick up his medication at the pharmacy just like the rest of us. Is a rolled ankle going to prevent you from completing tech school to hand out meds? No, then he or she should graduate. The same could be said about  other AFSCs in the AF. Before you deploy you typically receive the training you actually need. 

Am I out of order with my thinking?

Nope. Spot on. Much like the O senior leadership I have found myself speechless at some of the bs that comes out of our senior Es. Mostly being the near 20 year types that were prob young NCOs around the safety belt/sock inspection era. Don’t get me wrong, some of these guys are shit hot, but more than a few are off their rocker. My old unit had a shirt that was non aircrew, he spent most his day wondering the squadron correcting people for “only having their backpack on their right shoulder”, (didn’t know that was even a thing) asking the last time they shaved, open zippers and other non sense. Meanwhile some of Es had real issues that needed mentoring/help and were to afraid to talk to him because he was such a dick. 

I would say it’s a systematic problem with our E culture to blindly follow rules to the T, without ever wondering if they have meant the intent of the reg/pub/rule/course. 

[Guardian]

Agreed. And why have a chief parking spot when every person that out ranks him can park there. Never understood that one.

 

Over powering senior E’s with a lack of guidance to properly carry out the mission is a major problem. As well as people and organizations who support the mission (which is essentially everyone) thinking they are the mission and forgetting they support something else other than themselves. (Again pretty much everyone)

[HarleyQuinn]

3 hours ago, Prozac said:

Why does a pharmacy tech need to be a uniformed military member? Seriously. That question applies to any number of jobs. 

A pharmacy tech told me the CSAF has to pick up his meds too. Civilian pharmacy techs at a certain base be like, "we are out at 1700...peace." But the CSAF needs his meds and he called to say he would be late. Oh, our civilians.....

[Bender]

A pharmacy tech told me the CSAF has to pick up his meds too. Civilian pharmacy techs at a certain base be like, "we are out at 1700...peace." But the CSAF needs his meds and he called to say he would be late. Oh, our civilians.....

Staying until 1700 everyday could be an improvement, depending on which base you're at.

To your point, I bet they believe warriors need an obstacle course. ...and that, my friend, is what we are/are making motherfvcking warriors.

Now recite the Airman's Creed out loud,
~Bendy

[HarleyQuinn]

21 minutes ago, Bender said:

Staying until 1700 everyday could be an improvement, depending on which base you're at.

To your point, I bet they believe warriors need an obstacle course. ...and that, my friend, is what we are/are making motherfvcking warriors.

Now recite the Airman's Creed out loud,
~Bendy

 

If you want airmen to be expeditionary then you have to train for the fight. All these training days off medical and finance receive, some needs to be converted into days where they shoot, practice MOPP, and combative skills. Most of them will never use this training unless they PCS to Korea to sit in MOPP gear.

When a base was attacked in Afghanistan, a bad ass from special forces went outside the wire to kill one of the insurgents in PT gear. Watching it on video looked really cool. Wasn't AF that ran outside of the wire. When the bases are being attacked it's Special Forces or a Task Force that rolls up the bad people. 

Does anyone remember the attack on Camp Learherneck in Afghanistan where the insurgents took out 2 harrier jets? So insurgents were able to penetrate a base held by Marines. Just think about a base with only shoe clerks and Security Forces protecting the base and aircraft.

Shoe Clerk Airbase: "The insurgents are attacking! Did they not see the sign on the gate because we are doing training and X-mas party planning."

Insurgents: Oh, we will come back later.
 

Edited November 8, 2018 by HarleyQuinn

[LiquidSky]

22 minutes ago, Bender said:

 

Staying until 1700 everyday could be an improvement, depending on which base you're at.

 

 

Better than "closed for training" all day long. Or how it seems every admin office decides they all need to take lunch at the same time rather than split it up because we couldn't actually be available to those they're supporting. That sounds like work. 

[HarleyQuinn]

1 hour ago, LiquidSky said:

Better than "closed for training" all day long. Or how it seems every admin office decides they all need to take lunch at the same time rather than split it up because we couldn't actually be available to those they're supporting. That sounds like work. 

SARM office was pulling that crap. I rolled in on them hot. Where is SARM? Lunch... leaving early..WTH?  Have to work at the Med Group or in the MPS for those types of hours.

Edited November 8, 2018 by HarleyQuinn