Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, jrizzell said:

 


“One person shit’s their pants, everyone wears diapers”. Forcing the entire force to wear blues, as uniform of the day, because of some rowdy young enlisted troops is just pathetic leadership. The USAF needs another war, and fast 🤷‍♂️


Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

 

We were at peak Iraq war last time it was enacted 

Edited by uhhello
  • Upvote 1
Posted
3 hours ago, di1630 said:

I see nothing wrong with this. The USAF has become a jobs program for emoji637.png/emoji639.png of the force.

I want my support office workers to understand they are office support, not warriors, aircrew or Mx so wear blues M-Th….that’s how it was before [emoji[emoji6emoji640.pngemoji638.png]emoji640.png[emoji6emoji640.pngemoji637.png]]/emoji637.pngemoji637.png and I liked it better.

If they take this out on pilots, it will get pushback but I think it’s intended to fight the lack of discipline in the enlisted ranks among support personnel.


Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

I doubt this is what will happen, but I personally think it would be great if it did.  If you don't need to wear a specific uniform because of job related physical requirements (pilots, MX, TACP, etc), then put on blues.  If you work in finance, personnel, etc then it's not just Blues Monday, but Blues Everyday.  You're a REMF; embrace it and do your job so the people that wear functional uniforms don't have to do your job for you.

One of the problems of the in lieu of taskings during the height of Iraq was the 'every airman is a warrior' BS.  If every airman is a warrior, then it is a logical conclusion that the actual warriors in the AF are no different than the finance troop. I heard Gen Walsh in person tell some random enlisted dude that at any given point he could be the most important person in the AF, as an enlisted maintainer.  I think that type of mentality leads to some of the BS we have going on now and fully matures as a E-9 trying to correct a pilot's zipper not being zipped half way up the name tag.  The average airman cannot articulate in a single sentence how he supports the kill chain.  That's bad.

Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, dream big said:

At what point on the trajectory to CSAF do they castrate you and remove your common sense making you completely out of touch with reality? 

One of the most pertinacious and wrong ideas which senior Air Force leadership has embraced is this: every standard is equally valuable therefore if your zeal for all standards isn't equal you are unprofessional.  They believe a lack of rigidity about seemingly 'small' rules, like Friday patches, will result in negligent fratricide or crashing aircraft, etc.  They see (based on faith) a direct link to extreme outcomes for overlooking small infractions.

The idea you might ignore trivialities to prioritize important things like victory or safety is anathema and their minds are unable to process this situation.  Those of us outside their bubble intuitively understand prioritization is a natural human phenomenon and should be embraced rather than shunned.  We want young Captain ACs making decisions keeping missions on task & timeline rather than stopping a joint ROC drill because someone's sleeves are rolled up.  But these cultists are like celebrate monks looking at sex, convinced it's the source of all ills and endlessly devising rules to guardrail us from it... not understanding it's literally necessary for the species.
 

 In combat prioritization is essential to success; even a cursory examination of military history would prove as much.  Look no further than the Taliban and NVA for recent examples proving uniform compliance isn't tied to battlefield objectives; examples are numerous proving the absurdity of their core idea but they can't have the discussion.  I've tried.  Ask them for proof that selective standard enforcement will result in mission failure and they might have anecdotes but zero data.  There is zero data supporting their belief.  Ask them if standard compliance is so important, what is our process to test new standards before instituting and what is the process to repeal if data proves it isn't required?  No answers.  You'll go to SDE and study works from historic military minds, who all sported beards, then be told beards are incompatible with military success.  Then you'll go on an exercise with Allied nations who have beards, call them our indispensable partners, then with a straight face tell ourselves beards are unserious for military professionals.  This example is just beards but uniforms are the same.  Go find paintings of the continental army defeating forces of the tyrant King George and tell me which military has the most standardized uniforms, lol.  

The answer to your question is the moment you embrace ideas asserted without proof, cannot rationally convince those who ask for proof, trust only those who share your idea and ignore your own obvious intellectual hypocrisy... that's the moment you've gone full retard in pursuit of rank.  At that point even losing multiple wars is insufficient to free your mind, you've been captured and are unfit to lead despite what rank or position you hold.  This is the unfortunate state of our Air Force.  

 

Edited by tac airlifter
  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1
  • Upvote 1

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...