Clark Griswold Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 Probably the best summary of what Russia is up to in one place:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/30/world/middleeast/syria-control-map-isis-rebels-airstrikes.html
sqwatch Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 here is my favorite summaryhttps://newsthump.com/2015/10/02/russia-orders-syrian-air-strikes-because--you-thats-why/Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2
Clark Griswold Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 here is my favorite summaryhttps://newsthump.com/2015/10/02/russia-orders-syrian-air-strikes-because--you-thats-why/Pretty much spot on
Wendell Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 This could get interesting if true...https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russian-jet-shot-down-turkish-6610679
SurelySerious Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 This could get interesting if true...https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russian-jet-shot-down-turkish-6610679 Clown show!
GrndPndr Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 Wonder what the Russian ROE is in this situation?
sqwatch Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 I assume their spins are more abbreviated than oursSent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Clark Griswold Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 I assume their spins are more abbreviated than oursSent from my iPad using TapatalkProbably something like this:Proposed Safe Zone is getting circulated with about 0.69% of happening.https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/us-said-it-will-create-a-safe-zone-on-syrian-border-but-nobody-knows-how/2015/08/12/4c7d0baa-37e4-11e5-ab7b-6416d97c73c2_story.htmlJust as soon as we commit to an open ended 100k boots on the ground, not holding breath... 2
StoleIt Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 Probably something like this:It's time to pound some Cunth...
Clark Griswold Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 It's time to pound some Cunth...MacGruber could figure this shit outBut we're without him so mere mortals will have to do...there is no solution, just as I am starting to believe there is no Syria anymore, all the nations created by Sykes-Picot are failing apart, let it just partition and separate out...
12xu2a3x3 Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 MacGruber could figure this shit outThis is more of a job for Alan ing Bishopman
Clark Griswold Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 60 Minutes on the Air Campaign against ISIS. https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/60-minutes-takes-a-glance-at-the-growing-costs-of-the-a-1738638898From the article "...the cost to sustain the air war, which was stated to be $10 million daily." If that number and the likelihood we will just keep dropping iron on jihadi a-holes here and elsewhere into the foreseeable future are not reason enough for the US to buy something that doesn't cost around $60k+ an hour to deliver a PGM then nothing will... 2
deaddebate Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 https://www.defense.gov/News/Speeches/Speech-View/Article/626037/statement-on-the-us-military-strategy-in-the-middle-east-and-the-counter-isil-c[...] we expect to intensify our air campaign, including with additional U.S. and coalition aircraft, to target ISIL with a higher and heavier rate of strikes. [...] As I said last Friday, we’ve already begun to ramp up these deliberate strikes.
Fuzz Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 https://www.defense.gov/News/Speeches/Speech-View/Article/626037/statement-on-the-us-military-strategy-in-the-middle-east-and-the-counter-isil-c "At the hearing, Dunford and Defense Secretary Ash Carter both struggled to describe the next steps in the U.S. military’s fight against the Islamic State group in Syria."In other words: we really have no idea what the fuck we are doing and so we'll just keep tossing JDAMs at Hiluxs until someone forces us to actually come up with a plan.https://www.defenseone.com/politics/2015/10/dunford-us-will-rethink-its-iraq-presence-if-russia-goes/123157/?oref=DefenseOneFB& 1
Clark Griswold Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 "At the hearing, Dunford and Defense Secretary Ash Carter both struggled to describe the next steps in the U.S. military’s fight against the Islamic State group in Syria."In other words: we really have no idea what the fuck we are doing and so we'll just keep tossing JDAMs at Hiluxs until someone forces us to actually come up with a plan.https://www.defenseone.com/politics/2015/10/dunford-us-will-rethink-its-iraq-presence-if-russia-goes/123157/?oref=DefenseOneFB&Yup - Op Run out the Clock then let the next POTUS handle itSyria has some interesting words on our next phase https://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-10-31-07-40-12What every POTUS fears will be the end of Afghanistan, Iraq, anywhere we get involved in COIN / Nation building after we leave (if ever) ...This image of the evacuation of Saigon must be on the mind of every President, not on my watch but what the hell else can we do besides keep the shit at shoe level by bombing them when we can? Turkey and Iraq don't want or will not let us heavily arm the Kurds, the Iraqi army is a mess, IS is not going away without a fight on the ground by an overwhelming and competent force and then long term occupation / pacification with no guarantee of success.Usually I hate just bitching about the news without being able offer anything of value but I think there is no real solution in Syria, it doesn't exist anymore effectively and that taking the position that a new Sunni state of eastern Syria / Western Iraq is a viable alternative, with NO recognition of the Islamic State but turning the government of this new state to Sunni Arab tribes and local governments. There is precedent for this in the creation of the new nation of South Sudan, accepting the partition of Syria but not the existence of ISIS as the government. How you actually do this is the 64 billion dollar question. 1
Fuzz Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 Well we already lost an ambassador in Libya due to the failed involvement (albeit limited) in the Arab Spring and the current administration managed to get re-elected. I honestly don't think the majority of the population cares, as made obvious by the general unawareness of the global on-goings by the people I talk to on a daily basis.
hispeed7721 Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 the general unawareness of the global on-goings by the people I talk to on a daily basis.Absolutely true, and the most disheartening partSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Stitch Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 ... general unawareness of the global on-goings by the people I talk to on a daily basis.Spot on. The low give a fuck factor will stay that way until IS or similar group of individuals commit to an on-going campaign of operations with CONUS (God forbid that ever happens). However, once you disrupt Joe Six-pack's daily flow of Dancing with the Stars, TMZ feed via Facebook and Monday Night Football; THEN they'll take notice that all that crap over there affects them here. It's not 1915, you can't ignore problems 'over there' anymore; those two big oceans on each side don't provide the security they once did. 2
HeloDude Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 Spot on. The low give a fuck factor will stay that way until IS or similar group of individuals commit to an on-going campaign of operations with CONUS (God forbid that ever happens). However, once you disrupt Joe Six-pack's daily flow of Dancing with the Stars, TMZ feed via Facebook and Monday Night Football; THEN they'll take notice that all that crap over there affects them here. It's not 1915, you can't ignore problems 'over there' anymore; those two big oceans on each side don't provide the security they once did. Wait...are you suggesting that terrorists can come into this country illegally (but stay here as illegal immigrants, because it's cool now) and plan/carry out attacks? How can this be?
sqwatch Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 good news, the dogfighters have arrivedhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/03/u-s-brings-dogfighters-to-counter-russians-over-syria.htmlSent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Duck Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 Hmm. I literally thought the Air Force was sending Michael Vick. 6
Clark Griswold Posted November 4, 2015 Posted November 4, 2015 Perhaps all is not loss but I am reasonably skeptical, good article from War on the Rocks:https://warontherocks.com/2015/11/campaign-acceleration-how-to-build-on-progress-and-avoid-stalemate-against-isil/ 1
Clark Griswold Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 Don't usually agree with Chris Matthews but this is right on the money. 6
waveshaper Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) I have no problem with the U.S. taking in 10,000 Syrian refugees but there's a catch. They must all be single, breeding age females, 18 to 30 years old, no FGM modifications, and if their hot then they move to the front of the line.Note; This would probably piss off the Muslim world because they would consider it discriminatory since the Islamic Standard for breeding age females is 8 to "unknown for upper age limit".The vetting process would look something like this; Here's a few approved "Syria-Sly" hot refugees.https://dailycaller.com/2015/11/18/13-syrian-refugees-wed-take-immediately-photos/ Edited November 19, 2015 by waveshaper 1
Lord Ratner Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Don't usually agree with Chris Matthews but this is right on the money.[url=https://www.youtube.com/embed/a8wuPlIBR8w?feature=oembed] That is the last thing I expected him to say. It's nice to see the pre-2008 Chris Matthews return, even if only for a minute.Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk 3
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