ThreeHoler Posted June 15, 2012 Posted June 15, 2012 On 6/15/2012 at 1:53 PM, BQZip01 said: Thanks. I'll browse through all 142 pages to see if it clearly answers my question. I was hoping you could make a PowerPoint... Short answer, Part I is factual information and is releasable. It includes things like photos without analysis and names of people who were interviewed. It must not include analysis, privileged testimony, or findings. It is normally only released to the AIB. Example: photo of cockpit panel with gear handle up is factual and releasable. Same photo with person's finger pointing to the gear handle is privileged and is not releasable. If someone releases privileged information, they are subject to disciplinary action. You can now log off your annual privilege brief...
Steve Davies Posted June 15, 2012 Posted June 15, 2012 On 6/15/2012 at 5:28 PM, ThreeHoler said: Example: photo of cockpit panel with gear handle up is factual and releasable. Same photo with person's finger pointing to the gear handle is privileged and is not releasable. So did anyone get disciplined for releasing that photo?
BQZip01 Posted June 16, 2012 Posted June 16, 2012 On 6/15/2012 at 5:22 PM, day man said: too soon but uh...yeah. Way too soon... ...however, I did have a beer at noon today On 6/15/2012 at 5:28 PM, ThreeHoler said: I was hoping you could make a PowerPoint... <Good answer> Quote You can now log off your annual privilege brief... Reference above.
Butters Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 On 6/15/2012 at 10:15 PM, Steve Davies said: So did anyone get disciplined for releasing that photo? What photo? The one from the C-17 did not have a finger in it. Therefore, releasable, no disipline.
ThreeHoler Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 On 6/17/2012 at 5:22 AM, Butters said: What photo? The one from the C-17 did not have a finger in it. Therefore, releasable, no disipline. I wasn't referring to any specific incident. I could have said: Photo of penny wedged in circuit breaker panel...releasable. Photo of finger pointing to penny wedged into circuit breaker panel...not releasable. Just trying to make the difference between the SIB's Part I and Part II understandable.
Butters Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 On 6/17/2012 at 6:15 AM, ThreeHoler said: I wasn't referring to any specific incident. I could have said: Photo of penny wedged in circuit breaker panel...releasable. Photo of finger pointing to penny wedged into circuit breaker panel...not releasable. Just trying to make the difference between the SIB's Part I and Part II understandable. ???? I wasnt talking about you. Did you see who's post I quoted? Steve Davies, on 16 June 2012 - 07:15 AM, said: So did anyone get disciplined for releasing that photo? To which I responded: "What photo?"
Butters Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 On 6/17/2012 at 10:35 AM, Rainman A-10 said: Butters, decaf. Funny, that is exactly what the Army 1Lt here keeps telling me. I didn't know there was such a thing.
BQZip01 Posted June 17, 2012 Posted June 17, 2012 On 6/17/2012 at 10:35 AM, Rainman A-10 said: Butters, decaf. Emergency renaming to Tweak? 1
AnimalMother Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Are we still waiting for the AIB on this one, or did I miss something? The AIB is already out for the V22 crash back in June.
LockheedFix Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Did they even do an AIB? Sometimes they won't if the crash happened in the AOR.
AnimalMother Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 I was pretty sure there was an AIB for this one, but I could have been mistaken.
DirkDiggler Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 I know there was an SIB, we got briefed on it at home station.
LockheedFix Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 On 8/31/2012 at 8:18 PM, DirkDiggler said: I know there was an SIB, we got briefed on it at home station. There's always an SIB, AIBs are optional.
scudrunner12 Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 There was an AIB. Not sure if it was been completed yet... and it's not classified.
AnimalMother Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 On 9/1/2012 at 2:19 AM, scudrunner12 said: There was an AIB. Not sure if it was been completed yet... and it's not classified. Any idea why it's taking so long? Seems disproportionately lengthy on this one.
zrooster99 Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 On 9/1/2012 at 2:24 AM, AnimalMother said: Any idea why it's taking so long? Seems disproportionately lengthy on this one. Why do you care? SIBs out...SIB is for air crew.
KState_Poke22 Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 On 9/1/2012 at 2:42 AM, zrooster99 said: Why do you care? SIBs out...SIB is for air crew. Stupid question...where would I go to look at the SIB?
Danger41 Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 Safety guy in your squadron will point you in the right direction.
zrooster99 Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 On 9/1/2012 at 3:52 AM, KState_Poke22 said: Stupid question...where would I go to look at the SIB? What danger said.
backseatdriver Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 On 9/1/2012 at 3:52 AM, KState_Poke22 said: Stupid question...where would I go to look at the SIB? What zrooster said.
Guest Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 On 9/1/2012 at 5:21 AM, backseatdriver said: What zrooster said. WWROD
pintail21 Posted September 12, 2012 Posted September 12, 2012 On 9/1/2012 at 2:24 AM, AnimalMother said: Any idea why it's taking so long? Seems disproportionately lengthy on this one. The SIB had very little to go off of, and had a lot of theory, conjecture and "best guess" which may be holding up the AIB.
matmacwc Posted September 12, 2012 Posted September 12, 2012 On 9/12/2012 at 2:48 AM, pintail21 said: The SIB had very little to go off of, and had a lot of theory, conjecture and "best guess" which may be holding up the AIB. Ditch your opinion on this forum about this subject.
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