poundcake Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Recently asked by the boss to clean up the awards shop. Does anyone know if missions from Al Udied qualify for Air Medals?
Learjetter Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Poundcake: your new favorite acronym: UDPU Go find their site, and get the AFCENT Decorations guide. Follow it.
poundcake Posted May 3, 2012 Author Posted May 3, 2012 BQZip01 - Thanks for the response. Most of the missions I have to submit for these guys were flown in the theater. Flights ranging from trips to Bagram, Kuwait, Africa etc. I'm making a list of questions to send to the folks at AFCENT so I don't waste their time. Among these; Are most flights in the C-130 from Al Udied still in support of Operation Southern watch? Is Al Udied considered a combat zone as Bagram is? Thanks for the help. I'm thumbing through the USAFCENT guide right now.
nunya Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Are most flights in the C-130 from Al Udied still in support of Operation Southern watch? OSW ended in 2003. I think you're lookin for OIF, OEF, and/or OND.
Shakey Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 OTBH is considered Combat Support (7.5 points). If they depart OTBH for OAIX it would be considered Combat Time (15 points). You can go to the SARMS office and they will have a list of OEF/OIF/HOA ICAO's.
BQZip01 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Shakey's got this one on the nose (for the most part), but you also have to consider the mission and the timeframe. If it was 2003 (FWIW, I just got a medal from 2005, so '03 ain't out of the question), they might have been making direct strikes on Iraq from there, I don't know, but for the most part, I'd guess they are combat support missions. When I was doin' the dirty 'Deid, it was considered an imminent danger/hostile fire zone (I know...everyone try to contain your laughter).
Champ Kind Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Are most flights in the C-130 from Al Udied still in support of Operation Southern watch? Is Al Udied considered a combat zone as Bagram is? Dear God.
Prosuper Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Sounds like another BSM criteria thread in the making.
pawnman Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 BQZip01 - Thanks for the response. Most of the missions I have to submit for these guys were flown in the theater. Flights ranging from trips to Bagram, Kuwait, Africa etc. I'm making a list of questions to send to the folks at AFCENT so I don't waste their time. Among these; Are most flights in the C-130 from Al Udied still in support of Operation Southern watch? Is Al Udied considered a combat zone as Bagram is? Thanks for the help. I'm thumbing through the USAFCENT guide right now. You may want to make sure there aren't any Desert Storm medals lurking in there while you're at it. 1
poundcake Posted May 3, 2012 Author Posted May 3, 2012 "Pawman" - thanks. I have a lot of work ahead to make sure these guys receive the recognition they deserve. My greatest concern are the younger enlisted guys who I know rely heavily on awards for points towards promotions etc. As an officer, I should take care of them first, I beleive that.
backseatdriver Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 "Pawman" - thanks. I have a lot of work ahead to make sure these guys receive the recognition they deserve. My greatest concern are the younger enlisted guys who I know rely heavily on awards for points towards promotions etc. As an officer, I should take care of them first, I beleive that. I smell a troll....or a 2Lt. It's spelled Al Udeid. 1
Seriously Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 "Pawman" - thanks. I have a lot of work ahead to make sure these guys receive the recognition they deserve. My greatest concern are the younger enlisted guys who I know rely heavily on awards for points towards promotions etc. As an officer, I should take care of them first, I beleive that. You might want to look into the BSM criteria! Maybe some of them qualify!!!
nunya Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 (edited) I smell a troll....or a 2Lt. I'm thinkin brand new co or nav. Been MR less than 4 months, sent out the door to deploy and doesn't even know what continent he's on yet. poundcake - Am I close??? Edited May 3, 2012 by nunya
nunya Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Surely a troll would troll about something cooler than awards. 1
pawnman Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 I smell a troll....or a 2Lt. It's spelled Al Udeid. And it's spelled "believe". I before E. I hope you're spell checking the citations a little more closely.
BQZip01 Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Oh cut the guy some slack. He's trying to make sure that people get proper air medals. I know they WERE flying CAP out of there at one point, so it's possible the guy found some old decorations that an Exec (one of 6 per year) misfiled and wants to make sure people get credit where credit is due. Fire me a PM with specifics and I'll see what I can do to assist. The vultures are circling around here looking for an easy meal...
Jughead Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 When I was doin' the dirty 'Deid, it was considered an imminent danger/hostile fire zone (I know...everyone try to contain your laughter). Still is. Still laughable. [DISCLAIMER: My actual 'Deid currency is about a year old, so I suppose it may have changed. But I doubt it.]
BQZip01 Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Still is. Still laughable. [DISCLAIMER: My actual 'Deid currency is about a year old, so I suppose it may have changed. But I doubt it.] I never said it was warranted...
poundcake Posted May 5, 2012 Author Posted May 5, 2012 "BQZip01" - Old ag? You're correct. We found some old awards that weren't procesed. Just trying to do the right thing. Thanks for the offer of help. I'll PM you with some questions later. Thanks again. '92
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