ThreeHoler Posted September 20, 2013 Posted September 20, 2013 Couldn't decide where to put this (Welsh thread, here, or other places) so I figure'd I'd put it here: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/09/17/welsh-f22-flew-to-drones-rescue-off-iran-coast.html?ESRC=airforce-a.nl "F-22 rescues MQ-1 in Arabian Gulf."
scudrunner12 Posted September 20, 2013 Posted September 20, 2013 "...the F-22s were simply taking part in a scheduled deployment" They are holding air shows on a regular basis in southwest Asia now? I'm confused...
Snooter Posted September 20, 2013 Posted September 20, 2013 "...the F-22s were simply taking part in a scheduled deployment" They are holding air shows on a regular basis in southwest Asia now? I'm confused... Of course, only the CONUS airshows were affected by sequestration...
snafu Posted September 20, 2013 Posted September 20, 2013 Drone pilots really don't get respect... We built drones to take the pilot out of the situation. Then send up an F-22 to protect it. I like it. 3
LJ Driver Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 Again - In the end, Big Blue wants the Officer attitude and culture in RPA's. Perfect. And what the hell is that again?
Steve Davies Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 Seems as good a place to post this as any. Not sure whether you can get this abroad, but this is a fairly interesting monologue about the psychology of UAS operations. Interesting that they called it the box. I am guessing that his community doesn't use STS. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-24522150
SurelySerious Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 Seems as good a place to post this as any. Not sure whether you can get this abroad, but this is a fairly interesting monologue about the psychology of UAS operations. Interesting that they called it the box. I am guessing that his community doesn't use STS. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-24522150 Couldn't get the whole deal, but could see this snippet: Lt Col Bruce Black said that there was a separation between one reality and the other: "When you are sitting in the box flying one of these things, you lose sense of the fact you are sitting in Nevada." Why do people say things like this? It's not some cosmic alternate reality machine; it definitely feels like you're sitting in Nevada in front of some computers with the crappiest radio ever fielded, all the time. I don't care how involved you are with the mission, it's not plugging into the matrix. 3
Hacker Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 I am guessing that his community doesn't use STS. The AF is stamping out fighter culture everywhere it possibly can, and vilifying it where it can't.
BFM this Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 Why do people say things like this? Gotta sell yourself for that next promotion. That's tough to do without going full retard. And you're the last to realize that you have, in fact, gone full retard. 1
sqwatch Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 Gotta sell yourself for that next promotion. That's tough to do without going full retard. And you're the last to realize that you have, in fact, gone full retard. But he's retired. The lines of reality are more easily blurred for some I guess.
moosepileit Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) The Military Could Use Your Help Looking for a Drone It Lost in Lake Ontario BetaBeat By Jordan Valinsky 11 hours ago A $4 million military drone plopped out of the sky into Lake Ontario and now nobody can find it. The National Guard reported that one of its flying robots plummeted into the eastern part of the lake around 1 p.m. yesterday, but had to give up searching for it because of bad weather.https://news.yahoo.com/military-could-help-looking-drone-lost-lake-ontario-144230402.html Edited November 14, 2013 by moosepileit
10percenttruth Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 The Military Could Use Your Help Looking for a Drone It Lost in Lake Ontario BetaBeat By Jordan Valinsky 11 hours ago A $4 million military drone plopped out of the sky into Lake Ontario and now nobody can find it. The National Guard reported that one of its flying robots plummeted into the eastern part of the lake around 1 p.m. yesterday, but had to give up searching for it because of bad weather. https://news.yahoo.com/military-could-help-looking-drone-lost-lake-ontario-144230402.html Somwhere there's a pack of Civil Air Patrol guys that have been wet dreaming about this day for years. I can't imagine their excitement. 1
Tonka Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 A $4 million military drone plopped out of the sky into Lake Ontario and now nobody can find it. The National Guard reported that one of its flying robots plummeted into the eastern part of the lake around 1 p.m. yesterday, but had to give up searching for it because of bad weather. A dozen Roombas are standing by to provide counseling to those who knew anyone involved. 2
HercDude Posted November 15, 2013 Author Posted November 15, 2013 A dozen Roombas are standing by to provide counseling to those who knew anyone involved. 1
Tonka Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Forget the Airline hiring boom: An industry commissioned study last spring predicted more than 70,000 jobs would develop in the first three years after Congress loosens restrictions on U.S. skies. The same study projects an average salary range for a drone pilot between $85,000 and $115,000. Oh and.... But instead of tapping their fingers on a controller, they're learning to fly the plane and use onboard equipment that includes a camera with a zoom lens as they continue their studies on their $150,000 course. $150,000!! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2522653/Hundreds-students-studying-fly-UAVs.html
ThreeHoler Posted June 24, 2014 Posted June 24, 2014 https://m.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2014/06/23/stop-saying-uh-oh-while-youre-flying-drone-crash-pilot-quotes-unveiled/ 4
SurelySerious Posted June 24, 2014 Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) Solid WTF to the fact that they released names of dudes in units that are overseas, sensitive, and/or routinely deployable. Protected from FOIA release under 10 USC 130 b? Who cares. Edited June 24, 2014 by SurelySerious
GKinnear Posted June 24, 2014 Posted June 24, 2014 Solid WTF to the fact that they released names of dudes in units that are overseas, sensitive, and/or routinely deployable. Protected from FOIA release under 10 USC 130 b? Who cares. Big 2 to releasing the names, whether or not it came from the AIB vs SIB. It's tough enough getting crews to open up in the "White hat" SIB, now we have to deal with this. Thanks media! Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!
Steve Davies Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 Thanks media! Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! Copy. It's the media's fault that your employer has released names into the public domain in direct contravention of its own rules. 2
cmdro Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 Copy. It's the media's fault that your employer has released names into the public domain in direct contravention of its own rules. Sure, someone in the AF messed up by releasing the names, but does having the name of the pilot really add any value to the average reader of that article? "WTF just happen" - Capt Bob M. Smith, USAF vs "WTF just happen" - MQ-1 Pilot, Capt, USAF There is real damage done to those people who were named, even if it was legal, and I argue it added nothing to the value or message of the article.
SurelySerious Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) There is real damage done to those people who were named, even if it was legal, and I argue it added nothing to the value or message of the article.It is definitely not legal to release PII of personnel in overseas, sensitive, or routinely deployable units, even for a FOIA request. 5 USC 552 b 3 and 10 USC 130 b. It's a specific FOIA exemption. We get hammered for emailing a recall roster to our own personal email, and some legal team thought, "Give out names to the press when the law says not to? This seems right." Agree that there is no further public good that arises from knowing who the MP was. Edited June 26, 2014 by SurelySerious
Steve Davies Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 Sure, someone in the AF messed up by releasing the names... There is real damage done to those people who were named, even if it was legal, and I argue it added nothing to the value or message of the article. a) You cannot expect the mainstream media to understand that. From their perspective, putting a name to the quote lends it credibility, and that's a powerful metric. So... if the Air Force (implicitly) says it's OK to do that, then why should they be expected to know any better? b) You should expect your employers to ensure that a) is irrelevant (by not releasing names). It's a pretty simple situation. I fully accept that the media can be very, very bad news for serving and former members of the armed forces. But sometimes there needs to be greater introspection and less propensity to blame the convenient scapegoat that is 'the media'.
herkbum Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 It's not only that it is convenient to blame the media, it is also likely necessary. They are looking for the headlines and many times, it appears, doesn't give a damn about the consequences of what they report. Seen it too many times. Always remember Rainman's everlasting legacy to BODN-never speak to the media! Herkbum Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App!
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