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Weren't the Israelis 85-0 against those guys?

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Weren't the Israelis 85-0 against those guys?

If you suck that bad, why even have an air force?

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A MiG-21?

Maybe an Army Colonel will drive across the border in a Sherman Tank. It's about as relevant.

If you want a MiG-21, there are plenty available, and it will only cost you about $50,000-$100,000 for a real nice one that is in flying condition... probably a lot nicer than this Syrian -21.

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If you suck that bad, why even have an air force?

Russians and French gotta sell their shitty stuff to someone, right? Plus, airplanes are sexy.

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"Syria shot down a Turkish warplane on Friday, Lebanon's al-Manar television reported...

...Two crew were aboard the F-4 jet,"

https://www.reuters.c...E85D0IS20120622

Perhaps Turkey is looking to elevate the external pressure. Nations still fly the F-4 as a warplane? Wow.

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If you suck that bad, why even have an air force?

To bomb their own people.

"Syria shot down a Turkish warplane on Friday, Lebanon's al-Manar television reported...

...Two crew were aboard the F-4 jet,"

https://www.reuters.c...E85D0IS20120622

Perhaps Turkey is looking to elevate the external pressure. Nations still fly the F-4 as a warplane? Wow.

They said Syria already apologized, not sure this one will escalate.

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Relevance? I don't think anyone is looking to refurb it and fly it in airshows. The defection is relevant for other reasons.

Yes, I get it.

The Colonel,... the political situation... blah, blah,...

Just having a little fun, making comments to draw comments.

However...

... my point stands...

Had a Syrian Army Colonel driven an old, irrelevant piece of hardware across the border, it should have made about as much of a stir as this equally less-impressive-piece-of-hardware MiG.

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You guys have flown MiGs that were acquired in much worse shape.

Red Eagles: America's Secret MiGs

Haven't read all, but it is some fascinating stuff.

Given our current political situation, I'm surprised any US flyers don't know that Iran flies F-4s (and F-14s for that matter)

It's amazing to me that they can keep them flying with the lack of logistical support from us in the last umpteen years.

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It's amazing to me that they can keep them flying with the lack of logistical support from us in the last umpteen years.

Don't worry, their FMC rate is 0.69%.

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We need to send them F-14 parts so they can get the jets flyable before we kick anything off. Who's wouldn't want to spank a

Tomgrape?

We're already shooting F-4s in Florida.

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Is there any difference if they are all occupying parking spots?

Always quick on the uptake...

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We need to send them F-14 parts so they can get the jets flyable before we kick anything off. Who's wouldn't want to spank a

Tomgrape?

We're already shooting F-4s in Florida.

RF-4s are almost gone. On deck?? The QF-16.

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However...

... my point stands...

Had a Syrian Army Colonel driven an old, irrelevant piece of hardware across the border, it should have made about as much of a stir as this equally less-impressive-piece-of-hardware MiG.

I think the kid could have walked across the border and it would've made news. The word "defect" by itself proves a point.

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