Linda Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 Link: https://news.yahoo.co...-084104472.html Hrmph... Kinda reminds me of the Mig pilot who defected from N Korea... actually became a professor at ERAU in Daytona Beach. Ballsy move. 2
Ram Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 Sad. One less easy target if this thing ever kicks off.
Fuzz Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 On 6/22/2012 at 3:28 AM, Rainman A-10 said: Weren't the Israelis 85-0 against those guys? If you suck that bad, why even have an air force?
HuggyU2 Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) A MiG-21? Maybe an Army Colonel will drive across the border in a Sherman Tank. It's about as relevant. If you want a MiG-21, there are plenty available, and it will only cost you about $50,000-$100,000 for a real nice one that is in flying condition... probably a lot nicer than this Syrian -21. Edited June 22, 2012 by Huggyu2
Guest Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 On 6/22/2012 at 3:44 AM, Scaredfuzz21 said: If you suck that bad, why even have an air force? Russians and French gotta sell their shitty stuff to someone, right? Plus, airplanes are sexy.
17D_guy Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) "Syria shot down a Turkish warplane on Friday, Lebanon's al-Manar television reported... ...Two crew were aboard the F-4 jet," https://www.reuters.c...E85D0IS20120622 Perhaps Turkey is looking to elevate the external pressure. Nations still fly the F-4 as a warplane? Wow. Edited June 22, 2012 by 17D_guy
PapaJu Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 On 6/22/2012 at 3:44 AM, Scaredfuzz21 said: If you suck that bad, why even have an air force? To bomb their own people. On 6/22/2012 at 4:22 PM, 17D_guy said: "Syria shot down a Turkish warplane on Friday, Lebanon's al-Manar television reported... ...Two crew were aboard the F-4 jet," https://www.reuters.c...E85D0IS20120622 Perhaps Turkey is looking to elevate the external pressure. Nations still fly the F-4 as a warplane? Wow. They said Syria already apologized, not sure this one will escalate.
HeloDude Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 On 6/22/2012 at 5:08 AM, Rainman A-10 said: Russians and French gotta sell their shitty stuff to someone, right? Plus, helicopters airplanes are sexy. FIFY
ExBoneOSO Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 On 6/22/2012 at 4:13 AM, StoleIt said: They do make for rather expensive landfills. Who's going to fly that FCF??
Steve Davies Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 On 6/22/2012 at 7:45 PM, ExBoneOSO said: Who's going to fly that FCF?? You guys have flown MiGs that were acquired in much worse shape.
HuggyU2 Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 (edited) On 6/22/2012 at 11:33 AM, gearpig said: Relevance? I don't think anyone is looking to refurb it and fly it in airshows. The defection is relevant for other reasons. Yes, I get it. The Colonel,... the political situation... blah, blah,... Just having a little fun, making comments to draw comments. However... ... my point stands... Had a Syrian Army Colonel driven an old, irrelevant piece of hardware across the border, it should have made about as much of a stir as this equally less-impressive-piece-of-hardware MiG. Edited June 23, 2012 by Huggyu2
BQZip01 Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 On 6/22/2012 at 4:22 PM, 17D_guy said: Nations still fly the F-4 as a warplane? Wow. On 6/22/2012 at 4:38 PM, Breckey said: Japan and Germany still do as well Greece, South Korea, and Iran also fly them as part of their combat fleets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_F-4_Phantom_II#Operational_history Given our current political situation, I'm surprised any US flyers don't know that Iran flies F-4s (and F-14s for that matter)
Danger41 Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 On 6/22/2012 at 7:48 PM, Steve Davies said: You guys have flown MiGs that were acquired in much worse shape. Red Eagles: America's Secret MiGs Haven't read all, but it is some fascinating stuff. On 6/23/2012 at 5:52 PM, BQZip01 said: Given our current political situation, I'm surprised any US flyers don't know that Iran flies F-4s (and F-14s for that matter) It's amazing to me that they can keep them flying with the lack of logistical support from us in the last umpteen years.
brabus Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 Quote It's amazing to me that they can keep them flying with the lack of logistical support from us in the last umpteen years. Don't worry, their FMC rate is 0.69%.
Jaded Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 Brabus, you say that as if the fmc rate at your wing was any better.
Guest Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 We need to send them F-14 parts so they can get the jets flyable before we kick anything off. Who's wouldn't want to spank a Tomgrape? We're already shooting F-4s in Florida.
Danger41 Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 On 6/24/2012 at 11:54 AM, brabus said: Don't worry, their FMC rate is 0.69%. I wasn't talking about Raptors.
BQZip01 Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 On 6/24/2012 at 1:37 PM, Danger41 said: I wasn't talking about Raptors. Is there any difference if they are all occupying parking spots?
Guest Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 On 6/25/2012 at 12:10 AM, BQZip01 said: Is there any difference if they are all occupying parking spots? Always quick on the uptake...
TreeA10 Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 On 6/24/2012 at 12:35 PM, Rainman A-10 said: We need to send them F-14 parts so they can get the jets flyable before we kick anything off. Who's wouldn't want to spank a Tomgrape? We're already shooting F-4s in Florida. RF-4s are almost gone. On deck?? The QF-16.
FallingOsh Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 On 6/23/2012 at 7:22 AM, Huggyu2 said: However... ... my point stands... Had a Syrian Army Colonel driven an old, irrelevant piece of hardware across the border, it should have made about as much of a stir as this equally less-impressive-piece-of-hardware MiG. I think the kid could have walked across the border and it would've made news. The word "defect" by itself proves a point.
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