C-17 Lands at Wrong Airport

[Royal]

How do we not have (more?) Generals like this in the USAF?

The funny thing is that Gen Mattis is a disciple of Col Boyd. The effects of solid leadership having arrived full circle.

[sky_king]

That video had swear words and he wasn't very tolerant of the enemy. This is totally going to mess up my feelings wall.

[KState_Poke22]

Ironically after the Green Berets with Karzai had a JDAM dropped on them in the early parts of OEF Mattis had the closest available helos to go evacuate the wounded but he refused because he didn't know if there were enemy around. The Air Force launched two crews as soon as they could across half of Afghanistan in the daylight who had never even been in theater to go get the wounded. Very uncharacteristic decision from the General

[Prozac]

We need Mattis the younger to show up at the Died and have a chat w/ some Chiefs.

[GBock]

Yeah, but how much does the hula girl on the glareshield of Fat Albert weigh? AMC fuel savings initiatives would never allow for something like that. That said, I'll bet she'd look good perched atop the altitude alerter on the tanker.

[guineapigfury]

If that Hulu Girl was a chubby MX chic, she'd be in the back with the boom. Just saying.

[JarheadBoom]

We need General Mattis to show up at the Died and force-feed "rank structure" and "chain of command" into some E-9s and O-6s.

FIFY

[Prozac]

If that Hulu Girl was a chubby MX chic, she'd be in the back with the boom sitting in the right seat. Just saying.

FIFY

AR400 N/S x2?

[StoleIt]

That is a CLEAN jet! Wonder what Guard or Reserve unit owns that...

[Azimuth]

That is a CLEAN jet! Wonder what Guard or Reserve unit owns that...

Or Altus.

[guineapigfury]

Or Altus.

Doubtful, they were rusty and smelled like 50 years of farts when I went through.

[Royal]

This may be an out for the crew; Gen Mattis could've pressured the guys up front so he could be prepared for the RNC:

https://www.duffelblog.com/2012/08/general-mattis-crashes-rnc-shreds-on-triple-neck-guitar-for-grunts-in-helmand/

[GBock]

AR400 N/S x2?

KEOLA TWO Departure.

That is a CLEAN jet! Wonder what Guard or Reserve unit owns that...

None of them.

Or Altus.

Nope.

[rulk88]

Air Force blames wrong airport landing on fatigue, human error

https://www2.tbo.com/...isit-ar-614036/

from the last paragraph

"Multiple visual clues" led the crew to believe it was approaching MacDill, and the plane's low altitude meant the crew could not discern the difference in runway lengths between the two fields.

At the same time, the co-pilot failed to heed several onboard displays that would have shown the plane's true position.

In addition, C-17 pilots routinely turn off a digital navigation page showing their course so they can display a screen showing whether the plane is properly prepared for landing.

The crew failed to visually identify the airfield correctly before the pilot turned off the navigation device. Afterward, the co-pilot failed to monitor the "mission line," a reference to observing the instruments on his side of the plane that would have confirmed whether the plane was landing where it was supposed to.

Four minutes later, the plane touched down at Peter O. Knight.

[nsplayr]

Blame the copilot, seems about right.

[ThreeHoler]

I wasn't aware you could FOIA a safety report...even if it was a Class E HATR.

[Azimuth]

Not even an AIB?

[Dead Last]

Not even an AIB?

Any damage? didn't think so, and shut up nav...

[Surf70]

https://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-news/2013/jan/23/5/air-force-explains-errant-c-17as-visit-ar-614036/

[Fuzz]

https://www2.tbo.com/...isit-ar-614036/

Seriously hope you weren't posting this article that you just found, which can also be found 6 posts above yours.

[Ram]

Blame the copilot, seems about right.

Well, in the absence of a nav, you gotta take drastic measures.

Somehow though, it was a nav's fault...probably.

[Wolf424]

The two were acting at reduced cognitive capacity, according to the report, with the pilot at 79 percent effectiveness and the co-pilot at 89 percent.

89% of his usual 5%?

In addition, C-17 pilots routinely turn off a digital navigation page showing their course so they can display a screen showing whether the plane is properly prepared for landing.

Must be routine post-2009

I'm done.

[Toro]

I wasn't aware you could FOIA a safety report...even if it was a Class E HATR.

HATRs are not privileged like most mishaps, so the information can be released. Having read the safety report, I will say that they got most of the facts right, but there's a couple goofy points of emphasis.

The report, obtained by the Tribune under the federal Freedom of Information Act, does not address why the C-17A Globemaster III was flying from Italy to MacDill, nor does it identify who was calling the shots.

The flight July 20 originally was bound for Kabul, Afghanistan, the report says, but the destination was changed to Andrews Air Force Base outside Washington, then changed to MacDill — an hour before takeoff — by the unidentified aircraft "user."

[LockheedFix]

Sounds like these guys had a rough couple days before this flight. Two days off in Rome and almost non-existent flight planning facilities in which to read through the flight plan that somebody else did for them? Instead of punishment they should be submitted for DFCs.

[Bergman]

At least the gear was down.